magpies

[Guest BIG FRANK]

went round the lakes where i live tonight and there must be over 50 magpies the noise is unbearable i spoke to a keeper and he said there have been loads of chicks found dead under nests because of these little b*****ds.

i said id shoot them but he wont let me cus of the public footpath what run right through them.

so what can i do i need a way to do them all in one night or most of them........

do i just shoot them anyway?

may be a pie is in the mists. :hmm: :hmm:

[Guest BIG FRANK]

set poison for em bit this is dodgey ,can you set a trap?

never tried to be honest i wouldn't know what a Maggy trap looks like

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

Public Footpath? Larsen will get trashed in one afternoon flat.

 

If ye can find where they roost and have access to a lamp? Magies DIE when they roost. They go into suspended animation for the night. Nothing ye can do will make them move.

 

Silver Birch, when available, is a big favourite for their roosting. Look out for a playing card sized dash of ridiculously bright, clean white. Often as low as nine feet. There he is.

[Guest BIG FRANK]

Public Footpath? Larsen will get trashed in one afternoon flat.

 

If ye can find where they roost and have access to a lamp? Magies DIE when they roost. They go into suspended animation for the night. Nothing ye can do will make them move.

 

Silver Birch, when available, is a big favourite for their roosting. Look out for a playing card sized dash of ridiculously bright, clean white. Often as low as nine feet. There he is.

maybe ive been to early in the past as before when ive flicked the lamp on they start screaming there heads off ill have to try later..

what to do with the bodes im not one for burying what ive shot are they ok for human consumption or just the ferrets?

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

Aahh, Jeezus, Frank! I wouldn't want to eat a carrion eater! :sick: Fine for the ferrets ~ only ye won't half get some feathers! Bit like pigeons - ALL bloody feathers!

 

Try giving them a good few hours to settle. Then virtually nothing ye can do will make them wake up. No good going at dusk though. It has to be well and truly 'in the night'.

 

My mate, Dean O' showed me this. It's great fun!

[Guest BIG FRANK]

Aahh, Jeezus, Frank! I wouldn't want to eat a carrion eater! :sick: Fine for the ferrets ~ only ye won't half get some feathers! Bit like pigeons - ALL bloody feathers!

 

Try giving them a good few hours to settle. Then virtually nothing ye can do will make them wake up. No good going at dusk though. It has to be well and truly 'in the night'.

 

My mate, Dean O' showed me this. It's great fun!

im on it!!

[gsi2000stokie 5]

Public Footpath? Larsen will get trashed in one afternoon flat.

 

If ye can find where they roost and have access to a lamp? Magies DIE when they roost. They go into suspended animation for the night. Nothing ye can do will make them move.

 

Silver Birch, when available, is a big favourite for their roosting. Look out for a playing card sized dash of ridiculously bright, clean white. Often as low as nine feet. There he is.

tryed and tested ditch. done it for years. used an old line prop of my mothers with a snare on the end to pull down. could sometimes come home with 30 to 50 a night

[J Darcy 5,871]

went round the lakes where i live tonight and there must be over 50 magpies the noise is unbearable i spoke to a keeper and he said there have been loads of chicks found dead under nests because of these little b*****ds.

i said id shoot them but he wont let me cus of the public footpath what run right through them.

so what can i do i need a way to do them all in one night or most of them........

do i just shoot them anyway?

may be a pie is in the mists. :hmm: :hmm:

 

 

loads of chicks found dead under the nests?....are you for real my friend?

[Guest BIG FRANK]

went round the lakes where i live tonight and there must be over 50 magpies the noise is unbearable i spoke to a keeper and he said there have been loads of chicks found dead under nests because of these little b*****ds.

i said id shoot them but he wont let me cus of the public footpath what run right through them.

so what can i do i need a way to do them all in one night or most of them........

do i just shoot them anyway?

may be a pie is in the mists. :hmm: :hmm:

 

 

loads of chicks found dead under the nests?....are you for real my friend?

not all under nests but on footpaths aswell i havent seen the birds being killed but the old man says it will be maggys its all you see around hear not many song birds.....BUT JUST AS YOUR HARD TO PLEASE DARCY ILL VIDEO IT EDIT IT AND MAIL IT TO YOU FOR PROOF MATE WILL THAT PLEASE YOU??????? I MUST BE LYING AS I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO!

Edited April 19, 2008 by BIG FRANK

[J Darcy 5,871]

What do you think a maggie does with a chick? Leaves it behind? No, it takes it away, pulls it apart and eats it/feeds it to the young in most cases.

Videos can be made to show anything you want, so don't waste your time setting one up.

 

I'm speaking from experience and its rare to find a dead chick in the wild...never mind loads.

 

just ask your "keeper" mate what nests are they that "loads" of chicks have been found under.....as many birds are not yet in full breeding condition.

 

And, another thing....magpies are now in pairs, ergo they no longer use the large communal roosts in any great numbers that they frequent throughout the autumn and winter.....

[Guest BIG FRANK]

What do you think a maggie does with a chick? Leaves it behind? No, it takes it away, pulls it apart and eats it/feeds it to the young in most cases.

Videos can be made to show anything you want, so don't waste your time setting one up.

 

I'm speaking from experience and its rare to find a dead chick in the wild...never mind loads.

 

just ask your "keeper" mate what nests are they that "loads" of chicks have been found under.....as many birds are not yet in full breeding condition.

 

And, another thing....magpies are now in pairs, ergo they no longer use the large communal roosts in any great numbers that they frequent throughout the autumn and winter.....

Ecology and behavior

 

The strikingly pied plumage and long (20-30cm), graduated tail, as well as its loud, harsh chatter, prevent confusion with any other species. In the open country the Magpie commands attention as one, two, three or more birds, with rapidly moving, apparently short wings, fly in succession, chattering as they pass. When the bird alights the long tail is at once elevated and is carefully carried clear of the ground.

 

Like other corvids, such as crows, the Magpie's usual gait is a walk, but when attracted by food or any special object it hops quickly sideways with wings just open. The fondness of all its family for bright objects is well known.

 

No animal food comes amiss to the Magpie; young birds and eggs, small mammals and insects are devoured, but acorns, grain and other vegetable substances are not despised.

 

In country areas the bird, owing to persecution, is often shy, but in suburban areas it is common. Indeed, where it is not molested it courts rather than avoids the vicinity of humans. Also, it is known to team up in bands of two or more to "tease" cats, i.e. launch feigned attacks on the animals, perhaps as a general reaction against the cat as predator and egg thief.

 

In winter the Magpie becomes gregarious, wandering and feeding in small parties or flocks, and gathering at a common rendezvous to roost at night. Early in the year large numbers collect together for mating. Charles Darwin refers to these congregations as "marriage meetings".

A young European Magpie, not yet fledged.

A young European Magpie, not yet fledged.

 

The magpie has been observed taking small songbirds down, in flight, a behaviour once reserved only for birds of prey.

 

[edit] Reproduction

 

Magpies are territorial and stay in their territory all year, even in north of the species range. The pairs are monogamous, and remain together for the duration of their lives. Should one of the two die, the widow or widower will find a new partner from the stock of yearlings.

 

The mating takes place in spring. In the courtship display, the males rapidly raise and depress their head feathers, uplift, open and close their tails like fans, and call in soft tones quite distinct from their usual chatter. In the display the loose feathers of the flanks are brought over and the primaries, and the patch on the shoulders is spread so as to make the white conspicuous, presumably to attract the female eye. Short buoyant flights and chases are part of the courtship.

 

Tall trees are selected by the Magpie for its bulky nest; it is firmly attached to a central fork in the upper branches. The framework of the sticks is cemented with earth and clay. and a lining of the same material is covered with fine roots; above is a stout, though loosely, built dome of prickly branches with one well-concealed entrance. When the leaves fall these huge nests are plainly visible. Where trees are scarce, and even in well-wooded country, nests are at times built in bushes and hedgerows.

 

The eggs, small for the size of the bird, number from five to eight, and as many as ten are recorded; they show much variation in ground and marking, but a usual type is blue-green with close specks and spots of brown and grey. They are laid in April, and only one brood is reared unless disaster overtakes the first clutch.

 

[edit] Magpie in culture :whistling:

Edited April 19, 2008 by BIG FRANK

[Rolfe 2]

Anybody who has to ask if Magpies are OK for human consumption obviously knows very little about the species in question.........as JD said........get real. I will help anyone with a genuine question and answer it to the best of my ability but some requests for specific information just don't seem to add up.

 

Rolfe.

[J Darcy 5,871]

You can quote all you like "Big" frank.......i speak from what i have observed for the last 20 years shooting magpies in their communal roosts and also their territories that they inhabit from april.....

 

The person who wrote that is obviously not experienced in the natural history of the magpie. Just like yourself, and your "keeper" mate.

 

FACT: Magpies do not hold territories all year round. If this was so then we would not see communal roosts. We would also not see large groups together in the daytime either. They split into pairs and are highly territorial in spring, gradually drifting away from the communal roost over the following month. This is why Larsen Traps are so effective in springtime.

 

So....you run along and quote that to your "keeper" friend.....

 

and .....you never answered what nests are there loads of young been found under? I'm curious...

[Guest BIG FRANK]

Anybody who has to ask if Magpies are OK for human consumption obviously knows very little about the species in question.........as JD said........get real. I will help anyone with a genuine question and answer it to the best of my ability but some requests for specific information just don't seem to add up.

 

Rolfe.

oh my fokin god as i said at first went round the lake with the old man seen dead chicks it came to that it was magpies put up a thread to see what i could do as i dont know this field at all and my nolage of birds is limited.

there are loads of magies round were i live never seen that many before....

 

 

then i get you two going on like im fokin lying and why would i do that cant believe it you guys are the ones who start the fokin rows not us guys...

you know what i don't give a shit ive gone with the idea that stokie put up (you know the helpful one) got me some roofing lat and some wire and im going to cull the cunting thing.

if you have a prob with me or my threads guys then dont look at them you can see my name by the side of it(if you didnt know)..............look for BIG FRANK....

to every one else thanks for your help im most thankful and ill keep you informed..

[Guest BIG FRANK]

You can quote all you like "Big" frank.......i speak from what i have observed for the last 20 years shooting magpies in their communal roosts and also their territories that they inhabit from april.....

 

The person who wrote that is obviously not experienced in the natural history of the magpie. Just like yourself, and your "keeper" mate.

 

FACT: Magpies do not hold territories all year round. If this was so then we would not see communal roosts. We would also not see large groups together in the daytime either. They split into pairs and are highly territorial in spring, gradually drifting away from the communal roost over the following month. This is why Larsen Traps are so effective in springtime.

 

So....you run along and quote that to your "keeper" friend.....

 

and .....you never answered what nests are there loads of young been found under? I'm curious...

darcy this is were i got the info from mate look it up...

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magpie

 

and as you know more than them ask for a job mate you can put all your knowlage on there mate