bradley 0 Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 We have bred English Bull Terriers for 10 years now,And like most breeders that breed all kind of dogs are learning something new every time we breed,Like any good breeder if there is a fault found in any puppy that we have bred, We would like to be the first to be told,This was a very noticable problem with this puppy, and told DH as he was the breeder,Also because i would'nt be able to work this dog,Don't get me wrong DH had the puppy back with no problem,It was the fact that when we showed him the problem he was ablivious to know what he would be looking for and dismissed it quite quickly Which we thought was quite strange coming from a repratable breeder,This man has bred very good dogs and don't dismiss that at all,We were offered another puppy when they were born which we agreed to but when it came to phoning DH up to ask if they had been born he was very relucktant to speak with us,So unfortunatley we had a bad experience with him and was made to feel he did'nt want to sell us a puppy!Which we find quite sad as we were very polite about the problem we had with the deaf puppy,As some people would have gone else where! Quote Link to post
Guest smashygadge Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 never dealt with him personally bradley sounds a sorry experience you had and with breeding yourself will no a bit about the way to go on yourself sorry to hear about it really and hope you luck in the future Quote Link to post
bradley 0 Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 never dealt with him personally bradley sounds a sorry experience you had and with breeding yourself will no a bit about the way to go on yourself sorry to hear about it really and hope you luck in the future Cheers mate Quote Link to post
trader 0 Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 grendal your spot on. i brought a collie x greyhound of dh afew year back and he told me they wouldnt be much good for hare because of the breeding. but i took achance and on her first season she took 35 hares pre ban. and hundreds of rabbits. mother to mine hancock was taking hare no bother and mine would 2 pre ban lol missed a big bunny last night by a whisker really, bet thats a good dog its april the 12th my permission dont want me to stop trader and first he has ran only 13 month old no harm done.i have to keep my permission happy if that means hunting out of so called rabbit season their aint one. ive got no problem with controlling hares 12 months of the year but dont like to see dogs running them out of season if one jumps up while rabbiting its one of those things that happens cheers trader Quote Link to post
prohunter 0 Posted April 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 thanks for your advice Quote Link to post
bird 9,969 Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Personally I like the look of his dogs and they seem to be fairly priced. He doesn't appear to make any claims about performance in the field so as a newcomer it's hard to understand why there always seems to be so much flak regarding DH breeding.Even as a johnny-come-lately lurcher novice I've heard of Hancock dogs. Like it or not lurchers are a product and Hancock is a brand name. But surely breeding dogs is always going to be subject to nature? The more you breed it stands to reason that you'll have a higher number of pups that don't make the grade. With a DH dog the buyer has an idea of what he's buying and I'm sure if a pup had some sort of congenital defect like being deaf he would stand by his name and sort it - like any brand name he has a reputation to uphold. Anyone who has such a long-term commitment is bound to gather some detractors, unsatisfied buyers and sour grapes along the way. But lots of folks buy his dogs so he must surely be doing something right. There's no guarantees that even a pup born to the hardest working parents is going to be an outstanding dog - the thousands of lurchers in rescues up and down the country is proof that a previous owner's expectations weren't met. Even in the short time I've been interested in lurchers it seems to me that so many dogs, probably with proven working pedigrees, get passed on for whatever reason. Why would DH lurchers be any different? BTW I've never met him or own a DH dog - just wondering why the Hancock debate is a perennial hot topic. Surely a man who has made a real and lasting contribution to the popularity of lurchers should be recognised and applauded in the UK. When you go to a commerical breeder like that, you have more chance of a crap pup. 1, you wont get a socialised pup,because he has that many pups . 2, the place is like a shit hole. 3, Any pup you buy, you want the best start for it. If you are going to spend £175, why not go to a person who works there dogs, and breeds only when they need a pup them selves. With all lurchers pups you take a risk, but why not put the odds in your favour. BIRD Quote Link to post
bradley 0 Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 how much does hancock charge for a pup 175 pound mate 200 POUNDS he charges now. Quote Link to post
DiStuRBeD 0 Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 When you go to a commerical breeder like that, you have more chance of a crap pup. 1, you wont get a socialised pup,because he has that many pups . 2, the place is like a shit hole. 3, Any pup you buy, you want the best start for it. If you are going to spend £175, why not go to a person who works there dogs, and breeds only when they need a pup them selves. With all lurchers pups you take a risk, but why not put the odds in your favour. BIRD agree 100% Quote Link to post
Guest BIG FRANK Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 (edited) just wondering how good they are, because i have seen a few advertisments in the country mans weekly, and just want to know if any of you have one or have seen one work. if you have any pictures post them on here and it would be great all they are is the right breeding for the classic breeding collie greys a mate of mine has one....id say it depends what you want to do with it just rabbits go small and fast for other stuff go bigger if teeth are involved bang some beddy or wheaton in there THINK WHAT YOU WANT TO CHASE AS QUARRY AND CHOOSE THE BREED ACCORDINGLY.. MAKE SURE ITS SOCIALIZED...THESE PUPS MAY NOT BE THERE LIKE BATTERY CHICKENS...LOL Edited April 13, 2008 by BIG FRANK Quote Link to post
bradley 0 Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 The best thing is to go to his yard and have a look at his dogs. I think then you will have a better idea if thats were you want a dog from. Quote Link to post
threbb 0 Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 just wondering how good they are, because i have seen a few advertisments in the country mans weekly, and just want to know if any of you have one or have seen one work. if you have any pictures post them on here and it would be great He used to farm chickens and now he farms dogs.Hes put more litters down than most of us have bred Quote Link to post
Brummy 9 Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 (edited) At the end of the day he is a dirty old farmer who knows less about working lurchers than Mr Fukcing Blobby ! Edited April 16, 2008 by Brummy Quote Link to post
gaz 284 Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 (edited) ............................... Edited April 16, 2008 by gaz Quote Link to post
thomas50 0 Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 At the end of the day he is a dirty old farmer who knows less about working lurchers than Mr Fukcing Blobby ! my mate has two hancock lurchers 1 at 4 which is doin well and he has a pup at 5 months he also had 1 years ago and it caught the lot Quote Link to post
swag 54 Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 the geezer lives not far from me, he hasnt worked a dog in a 10 stretch, old names old times, only seen 1 of his dogs that was worth talking about but he breeds any old shit , do not buy these over priced jackers Quote Link to post
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