Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Please; Study This Untill It's Sunk In Ok. Now here's a foreword: I found myself staring at that shot after following a recent oratory on a " Blog ". The stuff I was initially reading was about PETA. But I succummed to clicking a link to a related subject and then spent half the night reading the earlier inclusion that link led me to. The editorial I ended up reading talks a Lot of SPCA's, HSUS and PETA. The American equivellents of the Arsepca: Dog Killing Industries, on the one hand. Money Making Industries, on the other. So, all You need to do is read " Arsepca / SSpca / PETA uk " in place of the American titles. K? Stories / Aims / Methods are identical. Never mind who runs this Blog. I personally have a lot of time for the author and admire his intelligence and industrious nature. I know one or two here would like him burned at the stake. Perhaps 'Burned for a MIStake'? Who cares? Personally, as the rising tide of shit that threatens to swamp THL cuts my reading / reponding times ever shorter, day by day, I look elsewhere for something Interesting. Engrossing. Informative and Thought Provoking to read. I usually end up spending as long on this Blog as I have done skimming through here. Fact. Please. Read this. Absorb it. Remember it. Talk about it to others. Instill it in the 'Conciounse collective' ~ Get ye friends and family aware of the facts. Draw peoples attention to it. THINK about it! But, first and foremost, please; Read This. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest fell terrier Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Please; Study This Untill It's Sunk In Ok. Now here's a foreword: I found myself staring at that shot after following a recent oratory on a " Blog ". The stuff I was initially reading was about PETA. But I succummed to clicking a link to a related subject and then spent half the night reading the earlier inclusion that link led me to. The editorial I ended up reading talks a Lot of SPCA's, HSUS and PETA. The American equivellents of the Arsepca: Dog Killing Industries, on the one hand. Money Making Industries, on the other. So, all You need to do is read " Arsepca / SSpca / PETA uk " in place of the American titles. K? Stories / Aims / Methods are identical. Never mind who runs this Blog. I personally have a lot of time for the author and admire his intelligence and industrious nature. I know one or two here would like him burned at the stake. Perhaps 'Burned for a MIStake'? Who cares? Personally, as the rising tide of shit that threatens to swamp THL cuts my reading / reponding times ever shorter, day by day, I look elsewhere for something Interesting. Engrossing. Informative and Thought Provoking to read. I usually end up spending as long on this Blog as I have done skimming through here. Fact. Please. Read this. Absorb it. Remember it. Talk about it to others. Instill it in the 'Conciounse collective' ~ Get ye friends and family aware of the facts. Draw peoples attention to it. THINK about it! But, first and foremost, please; Read This. pretty rough that mate its the old case of do as i say not what i do Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sue 1 Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 we all know these things take place its a horrid thought ,the rspca rant and rave about cruelty yet they are the worst offenders.and as for rehoming a animal you have no chance ,carnt use them for working and they cost you a arm and leg to get from them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
littlefish 587 Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 I look in on that site regularly- there's often something worth reading on it. What is the solution to this? All those unwanted cats and dogs sitting the pounds, yet people still breeding them... the papers are full of adverts for pedigree dogs costing £400 and 'beautiful kittens - free to good homes'? Any suggestions as to what to do with them? I don't know.......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 What is the solution to this? All those unwanted cats and dogs sitting the pounds, yet people still breeding them... the papers are full of adverts for pedigree dogs costing £400 and 'beautiful kittens - free to good homes'? Any suggestions as to what to do with them? I don't know.......... The article I'm trying to point out to you people contains and demonstrates the solution. The solution is the very focus and point of the entire piece. Unfortunately, it takes some time and concentration to actually Read it. Probably 99% of those who even open this Thread will glance at the picture and maybe spend about as long looking at all the words contained inside the Link. Then their minds will cloud over and their right hand will jerk and they'll have 'clicked' off to some nice sound bites with no 'big words' used. That too is a major contributary factor to the very Problem to which you ask a Solution. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIGZY 4 Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 What is the solution to this? All those unwanted cats and dogs sitting the pounds, yet people still breeding them... the papers are full of adverts for pedigree dogs costing £400 and 'beautiful kittens - free to good homes'? Any suggestions as to what to do with them? I don't know.......... The article I'm trying to point out to you people contains and demonstrates the solution. The solution is the very focus and point of the entire piece. Unfortunately, it takes some time and concentration to actually Read it. Probably 99% of those who even open this Thread will glance at the picture and maybe spend about as long looking at all the words contained inside the Link. Then their minds will cloud over and their right hand will jerk and they'll have 'clicked' off to some nice sound bites with no 'big words' used. That too is a major contributary factor to the very Problem to which you ask a Solution. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueCoyote 0 Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 i've begun reading it but cant finish, but i do have a lot to say about the matter.. i just cant right now. this is a hot topic among some of the other dog people i know, so not to worry DS we're not all glassy eyed and bored. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leegreen 2,204 Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 So sorry to sound niave but are they truly using identical methods as our own, as I am quite shocked about some of the facts and figures. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 As ye've obviously read it, Lee ~ Had ye figured for the sort who would ~ the short answer is: Yes. I haven't got a life times experience and 'intelligence' available in any handily transferable format, I'm afraid. I'm also not half as good and fast at gathering and collating raw data as Pat is. That's why I don't run a Blog. But, scratch the surface for yeself a bit. See what ye start finding out. Just as a starter; I worked for Royal Mail for seven years. I was a Postal Sorter. Every now and then we'd get the " Wet Kitten " mail shots through. Arsepca begging letters. They sent so many at once it f*cking swamped us every time. Same thing's mentioned in that editorial, of course. Only it refers to HSUS doing it. So on and so forth ..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leegreen 2,204 Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 To be honest Ditch I skim read it but I picked up on a few shocking statements and quotes. It just worries me about the bods in some of the positions that operate these so called animal wellfare societys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Caravan Monster 323 Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Unfortunately, it takes some time and concentration to actually Read it. Probably 99% of those who even open this Thread will glance at the picture and maybe spend about as long looking at all the words contained inside the Link. Then their minds will cloud over and their right hand will jerk and they'll have 'clicked' off to some nice sound bites with no 'big words' used. Overcome that problem and you could change the world! So far as I understand, the small 'no kill' ,breed specific, and volunteer staffed rescues in the UK succesfully rehome many abandoned dogs on a fraction of the RSPCA' s or Dog Warden' s budget, without meddling in politics or deceiving people. This shows the policy described in the article works. Perhaps one day the RSPCA will be exposed to the wider population as being primarily a commercial, not welfare, organisation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Perhaps one day the RSPCA will be exposed to the wider population as being primarily a commercial, not welfare, organisation. Aye, mate. Only, as the article also points out; Those b*stards are already passed masters at hiding, denying and down right Lying about such places. Look at how, just in the last couple of years or so, they went after them (the private Shelters) full on? Last I heard they were demanding the govt. give THEM the right to police such outfits and say who stayed and who got busted. Hearing that, Lee? This is the sort of shit I'm on about, mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueCoyote 0 Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 (edited) Unfortunately, it takes some time and concentration to actually Read it. Probably 99% of those who even open this Thread will glance at the picture and maybe spend about as long looking at all the words contained inside the Link. Then their minds will cloud over and their right hand will jerk and they'll have 'clicked' off to some nice sound bites with no 'big words' used. Overcome that problem and you could change the world! So far as I understand, the small 'no kill' ,breed specific, and volunteer staffed rescues in the UK succesfully rehome many abandoned dogs on a fraction of the RSPCA' s or Dog Warden' s budget, without meddling in politics or deceiving people. This shows the policy described in the article works. Perhaps one day the RSPCA will be exposed to the wider population as being primarily a commercial, not welfare, organisation. i see more than one issue here... but i dont want to write a book about my opinions..... in my city we have a shelter that works with volunteers and rescues. they give out vouchers for free spay and neuter to those that cant afford it. our stray population isnt all that bad. the only problems we have come from college students buying pets while they're in town and dumping them when the semester ends, or because they dont have enough time for it..... if not for that i'd say we'd be a damned good example for everyone else. there is no one solution to fix it. its got to be something everyone agrees on.. which they wont because everyone knows more than everyone else.. i dont agree on spaying all dogs and cats.... but i also dont think the animals being bred today SHOULD be bred..... my cousin(dumbass) just bought a rotti puppy from a woman selling them as "oops puppies"... this dumb broad had a female that has a white chest.... which is a fault i guess... so instead of spaying this so called faulted dog she let her get pregnant. instead of aborting the pups before they had a chance to develope she sold them for $150.. my cousin and her even dumber mother bought two pups. her mom is the one i want to kill.... i GAVE this woman a damned good puppy and she let it go wild..... so wild that i couldnt hand him safely... the timing was off because i was pregnant during the time she decided to get rid of him. so when i found out she just bought a ROTTWEILER i was beyond pissed off. hind sight is 22, right? apparently this woman is blind as a bat..... i wont even mention my cousin and her stupidity..... So i said all that because its people like them that cause this over population and need for a killing machine. its the same as an exterminator..... there are too many. no one wants them anyway..... so lets do the humane thing besides letting them sit in boxes for days. the humanity is gone because its become too much of a job. and.... sometimes death IS the nicest solution for some animals...... the dog i just mentioned was a big hard hitting prey driven dog... but he wasnt when i gave him to her. before he was six months old he was almost 70 lbs.. he was dog aggressive, territorial, hyper active, and HAD to be leashed or chained 24/7... and if you tried to walk him on the leash he would nearly tear your arms out of the sockets. my kids were the only reason i didnt get him back. the more that dog was ignored the worse he got..... which is what happens to a lot of dogs on the shelf. when they reach that point of no return.. people see them as a lost cause.. which they arent. they just need time. and who has time???? its a vicious cycle and these people are trying to find one solution to cure it but there isnt one. never has been and never will be. not without stamping on peoples rights. most people dont want to hurt animals. they just dont have time, or enough knowledge about them. they dont look at them as if they have feelings, especially if they arent attached to it..... "its just a stray dog in the street..... who cares if it gets run over by a car? not my problem!" .. when people first brought their dogs to the US most of them were working dogs... not beloved family pets... when the wilderness was tamed and everyone moved to cities most of the dogs lost their jobs so they became feral..... the same happens today.. only on a more modern system.. the market is over saturated with pets.. and yet people think they can make some money by selling puppies. once the dog goes to the new home its out of sight and out of mind. THAT ideal is what has lead us right back into the iron drowning cages. Its a dirty job and someone has to do it...... but its so upsetting that people think the only solution is to stop breeding pets all together. if they pass mandatory spay and neuter then only puppy mills and big show breeders can breed dogs... and how the hell will they enforce the mandatory neutering? send out the "Gonad Police"???? people wont take their dogs to vet because they didnt get them neutered, so the animal suffers even more because of a stupid law? now thats humane! sorry i wrote a book anyway Edited March 31, 2008 by BlueCoyote Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Interesting read there DS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOPPER 1,809 Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 your timin is spot on ditch i was only stating this the other day to some self rightus bitch who calls herself an animal lover and donates to the asprca yet in her words would love to kill my dogs [shes a cat lover] shes even laid pioson on the public footpath hopin dogs would pick it up, sad cow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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