bill88 6 Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 i think bull cross are better becuase you look alot harder with one Quote Link to post
ianm 2,594 Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 As i commented in a previous topic, i personally have never seen a bull cross worth me keeping. That however does not mean there are none, i simply have not come across one. On the other hand i have owned and seen a lot of very good Bedlington crosses and in my opinion something like Bedlington/Greyhound - Whippet/Greyhound or a 3/4 bred Bedlington/Greyhound would make an ideal all rounder but as said it depends on what is required from the dog. Quote Link to post
caterpiller 10 Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 DIGGIT, in my opinion your reply was fantastic, open and honest I have a little bitch here at the moment 3/4 Grey 1/4 Collie x Bedlington x Whippet/Greyhound. She is a handy little ferreting/lamping bitch but WILL NOT RETRIEVE FOXES. She picks what she thinks is worth trying for and has a sensitive temperament BUT, I am well aware of these things so there is no problem. I have a Bull/Wheaton Greyhound Pup on order as i would like something a bit tougher this time around. I have always had Collie Crosses and found them a doddle to train but in some (NOT ALL) they have that picky choosy attitude. How do you Bull x Lads find them when it comes to Training,Stock Breaking etc....... i would be gratefull to you Lads if you could give me a brief insight into how you have found them. Thanks in advance Lads Quote Link to post
stormrider8 59 Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 well ive had bulls around me most of my life and my kids have, there 100% workers and 100% loyal to there keepers i don't think you ask any more than that from a dog. ive also had a bedlington whippet x from one of the best men in the game Gorge Kelly from the brown hills in the west mids. as far as rabbiting goes that dog was 100% but when it came to fox he just didnt have the power or weight. i also found with the bedlington they seem to be a bit yampy and they yap to. now the bulls are nice and steady and you don't here a thing out of them. for me bullx all the way, but please note these are just the things ive found with my dogs and as we no not all dogs are the same , and personally think its a bull shit question how can you compare a bedlington x to a bull x, you breed or buy a dog to do the work that you need it to do, ie if your a rabbiting man and thats all you do go for the bedlington if your a man like me that likes to have all the cake and eat it you go for a bullx I have a 5 month bull cross bitch and am all in favour. But the beddlinton cros were also bred for fox! That is how you can compare them. Quote Link to post
pritch 335 Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 how were the bull x's with other dogs have only known 3 & all were nasty feckers ATB Pritch They were ok, the 3/8 was a bit sharper with dogs, as long as they left him him alone he was ok. As i said all dogs are different, i got a 1x collie grey pup now he is 23ins and 52lb [7months old] he is a big pup, he will be a strong dog when he grows up. Some colliexs can be nasty feckers aswell. Any lurcher over 55lb , can do damage. Bullxs are powerfull dogs yes, so are coursing greyhounds when they kick off, the damage they do is unbelievable BIRD i know you can get bad uns in all x's i've seen a few nowty collie x's but the 3 bull x's ive known weren't just nowty they were down right nasty feckers just wanted to kill any dog they saw on sight sound with people but dogs you had to choke em off should of been pts but i think they just ended up going from 1 owner to the next all 3 were sound until they had there first bit of a skirmish & from then on they just went off there heads as far as other dogs were concerned. ATB Pritch Quote Link to post
Guest blue_boy Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 i think bull cross are better becuase you look alot harder with one and basicaly thats al it comes down to ............each to there own who has the rights to slate other types of lurcher im a bedlington man myself cant stand bull crosses but dont slate them good and bad in every cross Quote Link to post
Guest rio Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 i think bull cross are better becuase you look alot harder with one and basicaly thats al it comes down to ............each to there own who has the rights to slate other types of lurcher im a bedlington man myself cant stand bull crosses but dont slate them good and bad in every cross spot on mate i got 2 bull xs here but i would have anoter x if it was up to the job each to thier own Quote Link to post
leegreen 2,173 Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 I think the Bull x because I've got one The only down fall is their coat imo. Quote Link to post
roybo 2,873 Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 ALL the bull x's i've come into contact with have been good with other dog's bar none!! a couple have been a bit sharp with sheep ,but i put that down to not enough early socialisation, and also they give 110% on what ever they do. The beddy crosses i've seen have been decent enough dogs but the FEW i've known have been known to hunt up on the lamp and a couple have yipped on chasing bunnies ,but as i say i've only known a few. So by no means can i be a judge on ALL the bull or beddy crosses but i don't think it's really fair to say any breed are ALL good or bad ..all the best Roybo Quote Link to post
Guest smashygadge Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 well ive had bullx all my life until i got into running dogs strange i no but thats how it was only thing i found with the bull is that they are a protective type of breed and somtimes have a dig with other dogs but on other hand ive ended up with a colliex ofwhich id say can be a funny twat when it suits him i think dogs that are well socialised tend to be good ,but ive heard lads say that their bulls like a bit of mutton Quote Link to post
DIGGIT 6 Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 (edited) DIGGIT, in my opinion your reply was fantastic, open and honest I have a little bitch here at the moment 3/4 Grey 1/4 Collie x Bedlington x Whippet/Greyhound. She is a handy little ferreting/lamping bitch but WILL NOT RETRIEVE FOXES. She picks what she thinks is worth trying for and has a sensitive temperament BUT, I am well aware of these things so there is no problem. I have a Bull/Wheaton Greyhound Pup on order as i would like something a bit tougher this time around. I have always had Collie Crosses and found them a doddle to train but in some (NOT ALL) they have that picky choosy attitude. How do you Bull x Lads find them when it comes to Training,Stock Breaking etc....... i would be gratefull to you Lads if you could give me a brief insight into how you have found them. Thanks in advance Lads thank you for the kind reply, bull x dogs are like kids you should take your time with them like you do with kids, do not rush them they will come on in there own time, do not show them aggeresion because the aggeresion is all ready there its how you train the dog to channel the aggeresion to realease it at right time that you requier it. the 1 thing ive found with the bullx is that they never give up they will still run even though they know they can not catch what there running at. i think more of a dog you buy or breed the more time and understanding is requiered and responsibilaty because at the end of the day the dog is only as good as the man or lady holding the leed Edited March 29, 2008 by DIGGIT Quote Link to post
bird 9,931 Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 DIGGIT, in my opinion your reply was fantastic, open and honest I have a little bitch here at the moment 3/4 Grey 1/4 Collie x Bedlington x Whippet/Greyhound. She is a handy little ferreting/lamping bitch but WILL NOT RETRIEVE FOXES. She picks what she thinks is worth trying for and has a sensitive temperament BUT, I am well aware of these things so there is no problem. I have a Bull/Wheaton Greyhound Pup on order as i would like something a bit tougher this time around. I have always had Collie Crosses and found them a doddle to train but in some (NOT ALL) they have that picky choosy attitude. How do you Bull x Lads find them when it comes to Training,Stock Breaking etc....... i would be gratefull to you Lads if you could give me a brief insight into how you have found them. Thanks in advance Lads thank you for the kind reply, bull x dogs are like kids you should take your time with them like you do with kids, do not rush them they will come on in there own time, do not show them aggeresion because the aggeresion is all ready there its how you train the dog to channel the aggeresion to realease it at right time that you requier it. the 1 thing ive found with the bullx is that they never give up they will still run even though they know they can not catch what there running at. i think more of a dog you buy or breed the more time and understanding is requiered and responsibilaty because at the end of the day the dog is only as good as the man or lady holding the leed SPOT ON, BIRD Quote Link to post
beddiwhuppet 10 Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 DIGGIT, in my opinion your reply was fantastic, open and honest I have a little bitch here at the moment 3/4 Grey 1/4 Collie x Bedlington x Whippet/Greyhound. She is a handy little ferreting/lamping bitch but WILL NOT RETRIEVE FOXES. She picks what she thinks is worth trying for and has a sensitive temperament BUT, I am well aware of these things so there is no problem. I have a Bull/Wheaton Greyhound Pup on order as i would like something a bit tougher this time around. I have always had Collie Crosses and found them a doddle to train but in some (NOT ALL) they have that picky choosy attitude. How do you Bull x Lads find them when it comes to Training,Stock Breaking etc....... i would be gratefull to you Lads if you could give me a brief insight into how you have found them. Thanks in advance Lads thank you for the kind reply, bull x dogs are like kids you should take your time with them like you do with kids, do not rush them they will come on in there own time, do not show them aggeresion because the aggeresion is all ready there its how you train the dog to channel the aggeresion to realease it at right time that you requier it. the 1 thing ive found with the bullx is that they never give up they will still run even though they know they can not catch what there running at. i think more of a dog you buy or breed the more time and understanding is requiered and responsibilaty because at the end of the day the dog is only as good as the man or lady holding the leed SPOT ON, BIRD well said Quote Link to post
L8SPORTS 19 Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 well ive had bulls around me most of my life and my kids have, there 100% workers and 100% loyal to there keepers i don't think you ask any more than that from a dog. ive also had a bedlington whippet x from one of the best men in the game Gorge Kelly from the brown hills in the west mids. as far as rabbiting goes that dog was 100% but when it came to fox he just didnt have the power or weight. i also found with the bedlington they seem to be a bit yampy and they yap to. now the bulls are nice and steady and you don't here a thing out of them. for me bullx all the way, but please note these are just the things ive found with my dogs and as we no not all dogs are the same , and personally think its a bull shit question how can you compare a bedlington x to a bull x, you breed or buy a dog to do the work that you need it to do, ie if your a rabbiting man and thats all you do go for the bedlington if your a man like me that likes to have all the cake and eat it you go for a bullx I agree the Bulls have quality that not many dogs posses they can be a bit nippy with orther dogs but like some one said earlier it is how they are raised I have only ever had G-B Bulls and they are with out a doubt the most stable blood lines Quote Link to post
pritch 335 Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 well ive had bulls around me most of my life and my kids have, there 100% workers and 100% loyal to there keepers i don't think you ask any more than that from a dog. ive also had a bedlington whippet x from one of the best men in the game Gorge Kelly from the brown hills in the west mids. as far as rabbiting goes that dog was 100% but when it came to fox he just didnt have the power or weight. i also found with the bedlington they seem to be a bit yampy and they yap to. now the bulls are nice and steady and you don't here a thing out of them. for me bullx all the way, but please note these are just the things ive found with my dogs and as we no not all dogs are the same , and personally think its a bull shit question how can you compare a bedlington x to a bull x, you breed or buy a dog to do the work that you need it to do, ie if your a rabbiting man and thats all you do go for the bedlington if your a man like me that likes to have all the cake and eat it you go for a bullx I agree the Bulls have quality that not many dogs posses they can be a bit nippy with orther dogs but like some one said earlier it is how they are raised I have only ever had G-B Bulls and they are with out a doubt the most stable blood lines what are G-B bulls Pritch Quote Link to post
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