LDR 29 Posted March 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Ok, lets say for arguements sake, you and me were out for a walk with your 22in dog and my 28 in dog or my 27in dog or even all 3 whatever, we've got all the dogs walking to heel and 50yds ahead of us up pops a hare and runs away from us in a straight line, are you telling me you think your dog will beat mine to the turn??? your dog would be taking 3 or 4 strides to my dogs 1, i aint calling your dogs, and i dont doubt you bought....i mean won all your trophies..... ...... but i just cant see it, i'll give you 30-40 yds off the cuff but then it'd be game over, honestly mate get your dog to a flapping track and get a time on her!!! ok mate iam going to answer this with a nice polite response,i dont think my dog will beat the average 27 inch dog to the turn at say 100 yards i know it will,mark You're like the Ian Beale of the dog world!!!! but honestly mate, they have some nice log cabins up here you can rent for holidays and they allow dogs to stay, come up and have a few days out with some of us, a few days out will get rid of the chance of a one off performance and we'll have a look see how your dogs are, i'm man enough to admit if my dogs aint up to the mark, and in my eyes the only way to really know, is to see it in front of your own eyes??? Quote Link to post
Guest markbrick1 Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Out of curiosity, have you ever raced her on a track ??? yes against 2 non peds a whippet greyhound out of wor john and a virtuall greyhound called ellie out of ellie may i got the ped of that dog someone top honcho the lot,all dogs were 24 inch plus mate except mine Quote Link to post
LDR 29 Posted March 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 It's simple enough in my eyes, a dog of 27-28ins, will piss on a small dog in straight line speed, turning might be a different affair, but then i think some of that depends on the dogs lurning curve, when i started mine off, you'd see the old running to the point they saw the quarry then turning onto it, where as now as you'd expect, the dogs run to the point they think the quarries going, my brindle dog tends to over shoot on rabbits quite a bit of the time, but his pace is such that he's back up on it in a few strides, but when he used to run hares, he's stuck on the arse like glue, must just run differently on different quarry!!! ive seen alot of big dogs that couldnt beat my granny to the shops if it was the case where the big dog was the best everyone in the country would have dogs 27 28 inches the majority of big dogs lack take of speed which is vital when rabbiting and if he overshoots his rabbit sadly in most cases hes not having a second chance day or night alot of big dogs lack centre of gravity which gives balance which in turn enables a dog to strike effectively and consistantly also if a dog dosent possess these qualities along with a good engine hes most definately not killing any hares no matter how big he is or how fast he is in a straight line i wouldve thought, if his smaller dog is exceptionally fast, it would be yards ahead of yours before your got into its stride, lets face it a 27/28inch dog aint got the acceleration of a little 22inch dog, ive got a 22inch bitch thats explosive on take off and it would be away before the big gangly 27inchers got into gear,jmo yep, thats why i said i'd give it 30-40yds, but 100yds is a bit of an ask!!! Quote Link to post
Guest markbrick1 Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 mark the greyhounds you were beating at shows obviously were not purpose bred racing greys because i can guarentee you without a doubt taht before my sprints dogs injury there is no way your 22 inch dog would have been anywhere near him when he crossed the finish line ... just to add this dog was a track record holder and open class racer and would run through a brick wall to win a race ............i dont think for one minute socks my bitch will beat youre type of greyhound,the 2 she raced were 11 month old belonged to paul james,he knows my dog and sure will tell you she isnt slow are any of my breeding,cheers mark Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,071 Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 longdog mate your thinking about it all wrong. marks dog may well beat your dog to the hare. i have a little fast one here , that nearly always beats the other 2 25 and 26 inch bitches to the run up. the difrence is after the first miniut . and heres an answer for MARK , WHO I QUAT IS ALWAYS ASKING WHY HIS DOGS ARE SO FAST . well mark . she is only 1/8 colie the rest of her breeding is wilhay whipp/grey . so there you go she is out of some very fast racing dogs. with only a tiny bit of colie. any body that looks at that black rough coat can see its a wolf in sheeps cloathing. in other words its a rough coated whipp/grey. now i aint having a pop ,its a good little rabbit catcher thats obviouse, but the reason its so fast is the racing blood in there. i bet the brindle bitch is not as fast , and of course why would she is 1/2 running dog . the real test for racing though is not simulated coursing or even the 100 yrd thay have at shows there always to short. no the real test is out of traps over 400yrds . but theres no dowt , that marks dogs are good at what they do. Quote Link to post
brookie 1,193 Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 i dont need to adapt any post mate i never said your dog couldnt turn and strike you did when you stated that he overshoots rabbits i personally wouldnt keep a dog that gets thrown by rabbits talking about footage of dogs running ive got loads of my dogs running my dogs being around the 24 25 inch mark i only gave an opinion which is based on 40 years experience of rabbiting and coursing it seems to me that you can get out of bed and have a dig at some one by stating a load of crap and when some one else dissagrees with what you say it dont go down to well Quote Link to post
alimac 882 Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 the good old my co@k is bigger than yours route. Quote Link to post
Guest markbrick1 Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Ok, lets say for arguements sake, you and me were out for a walk with your 22in dog and my 28 in dog or my 27in dog or even all 3 whatever, we've got all the dogs walking to heel and 50yds ahead of us up pops a hare and runs away from us in a straight line, are you telling me you think your dog will beat mine to the turn??? your dog would be taking 3 or 4 strides to my dogs 1, i aint calling your dogs, and i dont doubt you bought....i mean won all your trophies..... ...... but i just cant see it, i'll give you 30-40 yds off the cuff but then it'd be game over, honestly mate get your dog to a flapping track and get a time on her!!! ok mate iam going to answer this with a nice polite response,i dont think my dog will beat the average 27 inch dog to the turn at say 100 yards i know it will,mark You're like the Ian Beale of the dog world!!!! but honestly mate, they have some nice log cabins up here you can rent for holidays and they allow dogs to stay, come up and have a few days out with some of us, a few days out will get rid of the chance of a one off performance and we'll have a look see how your dogs are, i'm man enough to admit if my dogs aint up to the mark, and in my eyes the only way to really know, is to see it in front of your own eyes??? now you know i love a challange but shit i got that many to go and do on a freindly basis its unreal,i have proved these dogs......arnt show dogs,can catch hares,work night in night out,do all types of things the lot,i have shit on shit but there isnt 1 person who has seen them who wouldnt want em are say they are what i said thy are,i would love a walk out but i got some nice places down here mate come on down iam sure you will write a nice report when we have finished,also i have had a few big dogs and do know a little bit,mark Quote Link to post
LDR 29 Posted March 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 i dont need to adapt any post mate i never said your dog couldnt turn and strike you did when you stated that he overshoots rabbits i personally wouldnt keep a dog that gets thrown by rabbits talking about footage of dogs running ive got loads of my dogs running my dogs being around the 24 25 inch mark i only gave an opinion which is based on 40 years experience of rabbiting and coursing it seems to me that you can get out of bed and have a dig at some one by stating a load of crap and when some one else dissagrees with what you say it dont go down to well maybe you'd like to point out where i've slated anyones dogs on here, you'll see i said he tends to overshoot rabbits and can easily get back up on them, who said i'm out of bed........ Quote Link to post
Guest markbrick1 Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 longdog mate your thinking about it all wrong. marks dog may well beat your dog to the hare. i have a little fast one here , that nearly always beats the other 2 25 and 26 inch bitches to the run up. the difrence is after the first miniut . and heres an answer for MARK , WHO I QUAT IS ALWAYS ASKING WHY HIS DOGS ARE SO FAST . well mark . she is only 1/8 colie the rest of her breeding is wilhay whipp/grey . so there you go she is out of some very fast racing dogs. with only a tiny bit of colie. any body that looks at that black rough coat can see its a wolf in sheeps cloathing. in other words its a rough coated whipp/grey. now i aint having a pop ,its a good little rabbit catcher thats obviouse, but the reason its so fast is the racing blood in there. i bet the brindle bitch is not as fast , and of course why would she is 1/2 running dog . the real test for racing though is not simulated coursing or even the 100 yrd thay have at shows there always to short. no the real test is out of traps over 400yrds . but theres no dowt , that marks dogs are good at what they do. not quiet 1/8th tomo but were does the stamina come from she runs all night and to me stamina is very inportant,mark Quote Link to post
brookie 1,193 Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 the good old my co@k is bigger than yours route. i never said i had the biggest cock ive only gotta little un a short thick un about a foot Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,071 Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 so are they less than 1/8 ? well staminar , its surprising how much staminar a whipp/grey or even a pure a whipp has got , also you work them a lot and obvoiusly keep them very fit , theres your staminar, you should know that after 40 year Quote Link to post
Guest markbrick1 Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 so are they less than 1/8 ? well staminar , its surprising how much staminar a whipp/grey or even a pure a whipp has got , also you work them a lot and obvoiusly keep them very fit , theres your staminar, you should know that after 40 year but you dont get stamina like these with a whippet are greyhound,yes i try to keep em fit and lucky they can walk the farm in the day dont need to be chained are penned up,butyes they are less then 1/8th eactly 15%collie mate Quote Link to post
Guest markbrick1 Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 so are they less than 1/8 ? well staminar , its surprising how much staminar a whipp/grey or even a pure a whipp has got , also you work them a lot and obvoiusly keep them very fit , theres your staminar, you should know that after 40 year but you dont get stamina like these with a whippet are greyhound,yes i try to keep em fit and lucky they can walk the farm in the day dont need to be chained are penned up,butyes they are less then 1/8th eactly 15%collie mate iam not into this eight stuff old fashioned percentages,sorry mark Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,071 Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 mark 12.5 % is 1/8, im sure you said one parant was 3/4 wipp/grey x colie and the other parant was whipp/grey . correct me if im wrong Quote Link to post
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