Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Just interested to know who would put themselves out to help rescue a terrier.I was reading an account of a fell and moorland rescue in an old book today and wondered if the situation arose with someone we knew ,or didnt ,how many could honestly say they would risk a bollicking from her in doors to attend a rescue at any time of day or night.I for one am indepted to a couple of mates who helped me find a terrier I lost out walking around our local tip.Id heard a few foxes got around this place so the obvious thing to do was check it out.I was walking over the sand pits which created the landfill site ,and slipped down a bank into a deep gulley.I lost my grip on the lead and before I could get back up the bank ,the terrier had made a b line for one of the goiles[local name for hole in sand made by watercouse].These holes are the last place you would enter a terrier as they go straight down and eventually discharge into lakes on the lower level of the tip .I knew I was in shit street so I phoned a mate .While I was waiting I listened at the hole and could hear the dog on one but very far away.Time goes very slowly in this situation and it seemed a real age before my mate turned up but he did and hed brought another mate too,and his dog with a collar and box.At first I was adament that another terrier should not be risked but was told it was his choice. In went the other dog and silence for ages until this dog found the other and the quarry.No time for f*****g about so a look on the nearby slope with the locator .Somebody was smiling on us that day as not too far down the bank a mark was found at 5ft but straight in.The digging was started in silence as we were all aware of the sliding reputation of sand especially as it was in layers due to the commercial quarrying.We could hear the dogs when the first collapse happened at about 4ft. the overhang above us was looking dodgey so we cut this down into the dig and started again.Couple more collapses happened as we dug but nothing major.Eventually broke through and found both dogs wrapped up in my terriers lead,which Id forgot all about.It appeared that the dogs were in a side tube as the main tube down was seen further on with the aid of a torch. The fox was on his last legs but I was so relieved to see the terriers I cant remember much about the fox.We took the terriers up the top leaving the other chap to finish it off and dispose of it.This is the only dig we have had that we never backfilled.I am greatful that the fox was not too far in .!!!!!!!! I would turn out night or day for these lads ,or anyone else as to be in this position brings it home a bit . ps this happened 4 years ago. Quote Link to post
Simoman 110 Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 I think we all have a responsibility to do everything to help our terriers. They give us 100% and we should do the same. Think you find out who you're real friends are when something like a lost dog is involved. My Patterdale ran after a fox and disapeared in a field riddled with earths and warrens, had no idea where she had gone but within an hour I had a collection of friends and family all willing to spend their time helping to locate the dog, we spent two days trying different earths before she turned up three days later a little sore but ok. P.S. I don't think any of us are scared of our wives.....sorry got to go, she want's something from Tesco :11: Quote Link to post
Guest Dillon Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 I'm sure all the genuine dog lads would turn out to a rescue, We lost a dog on Hambledon Hill on New Years Eve 1994, two of us were digging and the collar failed, we carried on to the same spot however things had gone silent, it was the only thing to do, we had originally located the dog at 13ft. Three more lads turned out and we entered another bitch, we got down to Jake four hours later who was stiff as a board, there was gonna be no grief coming our way off the women as we were all gutted enough. The lads who came to help though got it in bundles, and said they would do the same the very next new year if the same situation arose. Good GENUINE lads. A picture of Jake pre '94 Quote Link to post
Guest Dillon Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Another on the same spot where he finished his career. Quote Link to post
phil wright 2 Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 my mate helped me dig out my plummer bitch even though we knew she would most likely be dead.we both took a day off work and knew we would be dragged into the office next day. as soon as we got into work the boss was over but was soon made aware that we would do it again everytime it was necessary. Quote Link to post
bedlingtonman 44 Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Im a member of are local fell and moorland and we have a good turn out on a rescue ive not missed 1 for 4 years and same for a lot of the lads they just drop what they can and come those who carnt just come get there asap and stay till late late late if dog not out in that day a few stay the night and some othrer lads will take over in the morning but there alot of rock up here so thats normaly were the rescue takes place.... Quote Link to post
Guest REDROB Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 everyone that has working terriers should do there utmost to get there terriers out, sadly not all do, moochin about on the quarry sunday lost 2 dogs, found the hole no mark could be found just faint bumping, so i said i would put my bitch in to try for a mark, big mistake, no mark so we dug all day sand slipped the lot, it got dark and all went home, next day i was there trying to locate the tube , and the next day , the next day wednesday i went to the yard foreman and asked if he could help and thankfully he did, he sent down adigger machine and 2 blokes, they dug the bank away but we still could not find the tube, on the thursday my missis said lets go and try and we went i took my mole probe with us and started to search about the pit and feck me it gave abit so we dug with are hands and then i ran up the bank and ripped off a keep out sign and dug my bitch out when i put my arm up the tube i shit my self when i touched the dog, i gave my bitch to the missis and said get her some water, well , i dont no how it happened but she ended up neary up to her thighs in the lake. i then phoned the OTHERS to tell them, when i got back to the quarry they had found 1 dead dog and 1 dead fox, the other dog was never found, i bought 4 bottles of jameson whisky for the helpers and thanked them for there help. so to me you have got to do your best for your terriers some do some dont,//// i know you should,nt have more than 1 to ground but it was just a sunday mooch about, and maybe i should,nt of put my bitch in, but you live and learn .... Quote Link to post
Guest baldie Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Maybe we are just lucky, but any of the dogmen in the pennine bunch, only have to pick up the phone, and there are men, and machinery there, i,ve been on a few, and i dont own terriers. Quote Link to post
cragman 2,791 Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 I'll agree with Baldie about the Pennine bunch but will also say that every area will have its own "team" of rescuers ready to drop everything and be there. People you can rely on. We all know who they are and we would do the same for them. It's always nice to get a dog out alive, but when you don't, it's not just the owners who feel it, but the lads involved in the failed rescue. I lost a terrier last year to ground and I was there for three days digging and probing in a sugar bowl of a sandy spot. It was on works land and having been missing from work for three days, the gaffer came to have a look. He could see the state of the place and the difficulty we were having in finding the dog. He promptly ordered a JCB in with a man and we took 25' of the hill away to find my boy. But we got him back, albeit to late to save him! Calm heads are needed. Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted December 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Cheers lads.Im compiling a list of people to pm . :11: :11: Quote Link to post
nuv 2 Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 You never know when you'll get the call or make the call... If my phone rings then I'm there...I lost a dog years ago and the help I had from other terriermen was excellent, many of whom were far more experienced than I was at the time. Unfortunately, the dog was dead - which I suspected - but until we pulled that dog from the earth, the effort was relentless. Quote Link to post
Guest FELL TYPE Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 ONES THE DOGS IN AND DOING HIS JOB ITS UP TO US TO DO OURS .ANY GENUINE TERRIER MAN WOULD BEND OVER BACKWORDS TO HELP A TRAPPED TERRIER.ANYBODYS . Quote Link to post
mouse 282 Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 could we not get some sort of list on here where we can all contact lads and lasses in our areas who are willing to help on a rescue.saying that if you put a post up on here im sure their would be plenty of help straight away.if everyone in this country were as decent as people involved in our type of activities then this country would not be in the state it is in.f##k the ban . keep on huntin Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted December 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 could we not get some sort of list on here where we can all contact lads and lasses in our areas who are willing to help on a rescue.saying that if you put a post up on here im sure their would be plenty of help straight away.if everyone in this country were as decent as people involved in our type of activities then this country would not be in the state it is in.f##k the ban . keep on huntin <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Excellent thought mate.I know I would attend if asked to. The place I nearly came unstuck has long since been dug up as its still a working quarry.Incidentally,shortly after my mishap a lad lost a terrior there and they found it 2 days later ,drowned in one of the many lakes created by the quarrying.The lake however was nowhere near the terriers point of entry so how it got there is speculation. On the plus side ,this place holds a lot of foxes and we did manage 4 successful digs in some natural earths before these too were dug up in the name of progress. The majority of this place is now a landfill site and attracts foxes for miles.In the past Ive lamped them with the lurcher but the running is dodgey to say the least. No guns are allowed here because of the gas emissions,but the owners freely allow dog men to work dogs as they wish.If the fox population gets any sparser around us I may be forced to work this dangerous place again! Quote Link to post
Kane 2 Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 . so to me you have got to do your best for your terriers some do some dont,//// i know you should,nt have more than 1 to ground but it was just a sunday mooch about, and maybe i should,nt of put my bitch in, but you live and learn .... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ive attended a couple of rescues and your description of entering more than one terrier is quite typical( and perhaps creates problems),and quite a lot of the time buy those who should know better,as long as lessons are learnt its not all in vain. A bloke I know generaly wouldnt attempt a rescue for atleast 24 hours believing a dog should stay that long anyway a lot of people panic when the dog doesnt surface after a few hours only for the dog to walk out unaided a few hours later as the calvary arrive. Quote Link to post
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