rifle licences

[sapper 0]

i already have my shot gun licence, but wish to apply for my centerfire licence as on th farm i shoot on has given me permisson to shoot both fox's and muncjak deer, (im also allowed to have the odd roe deer if i happen to manage to get a clean AND safe shot on it). But what im really wanting to know is that as i have not got my rimfire licence, would i be granted it?! just to fill in a few blanks; im a serving soldier in the British Army and have very regular contact with rifles, mainly 5.56 and 7.62 which are high volocity calibers/rounds, also were made to do regular weapon handling tests to asses our habits of handling the rifles, also we spend alot of times on th ranges, shooting upto and including 600m. is there a realistic chance of being granted my licence on these grounds?? any help would be greatly apreciated as i've heard a few contradicting replys.

 

Mat

[Deker 3,478]

i already have my shot gun licence, but wish to apply for my centerfire licence as on th farm i shoot on has given me permisson to shoot both fox's and muncjak deer, (im also allowed to have the odd roe deer if i happen to manage to get a clean AND safe shot on it). But what im really wanting to know is that as i have not got my rimfire licence, would i be granted it?! just to fill in a few blanks; im a serving soldier in the British Army and have very regular contact with rifles, mainly 5.56 and 7.62 which are high volocity calibers/rounds, also were made to do regular weapon handling tests to asses our habits of handling the rifles, also we spend alot of times on th ranges, shooting upto and including 600m. is there a realistic chance of being granted my licence on these grounds?? any help would be greatly apreciated as i've heard a few contradicting replys.

 

Mat

 

 

 

Shot Gun CERTIFICATE!

Muntjac

.22Rimfire is NOT approved for ANY Deer

As a first grant you are also unlikely to get it certified for Fox!

What Centrefire calibre were you considering?

Any military background will help BUT will NOT get you a FAC in it's own right..you will have to put a case....

The above is NOT a case.

What 7.62 rifles are you using and is the ammo still FN or are you using RG now?

What weight of bullet do you use in the 5.56?

[sapper 0]

i already have my shot gun licence, but wish to apply for my centerfire licence as on th farm i shoot on has given me permisson to shoot both fox's and muncjak deer, (im also allowed to have the odd roe deer if i happen to manage to get a clean AND safe shot on it). But what im really wanting to know is that as i have not got my rimfire licence, would i be granted it?! just to fill in a few blanks; im a serving soldier in the British Army and have very regular contact with rifles, mainly 5.56 and 7.62 which are high volocity calibers/rounds, also were made to do regular weapon handling tests to asses our habits of handling the rifles, also we spend alot of times on th ranges, shooting upto and including 600m. is there a realistic chance of being granted my licence on these grounds?? any help would be greatly apreciated as i've heard a few contradicting replys.

 

Mat

 

 

 

Shot Gun CERTIFICATE!

Muntjac

.22Rimfire is NOT approved for ANY Deer

As a first grant you are also unlikely to get it certified for Fox!

What Centrefire calibre were you considering?

Any military background will help BUT will NOT get you a FAC in it's own right..you will have to put a case....

The above is NOT a case.

What 7.62 rifles are you using and is the ammo still FN or are you using RG now?

What weight of bullet do you use in the 5.56?

 

 

dint realise that i was being marked on my spelling

and yea i know that i cant use .22rimfire for deer, hence the question about the centerfire licence!!! i was thinking .243 as i could use it both for fox and smaller deer!?

 

L96 sniper is the one i use on the range for 7.62, as for asking about the ammo, last i checked and it was a while back now it was RG, and the weight of the 5.56 i've never looked into it, standard nato ball round.

[vincy 3]

all you need is good reason for fac which it looks like you have .if they mess you about for a deer cal go for 22 centre fire ie 222 /223 /22 250 which you can legally shoot muntjac and chinese water deer in england and wales

[Deker 3,478]

i already have my shot gun licence, but wish to apply for my centerfire licence as on th farm i shoot on has given me permisson to shoot both fox's and muncjak deer, (im also allowed to have the odd roe deer if i happen to manage to get a clean AND safe shot on it). But what im really wanting to know is that as i have not got my rimfire licence, would i be granted it?! just to fill in a few blanks; im a serving soldier in the British Army and have very regular contact with rifles, mainly 5.56 and 7.62 which are high volocity calibers/rounds, also were made to do regular weapon handling tests to asses our habits of handling the rifles, also we spend alot of times on th ranges, shooting upto and including 600m. is there a realistic chance of being granted my licence on these grounds?? any help would be greatly apreciated as i've heard a few contradicting replys.

 

Mat

 

 

 

Shot Gun CERTIFICATE!

Muntjac

.22Rimfire is NOT approved for ANY Deer

As a first grant you are also unlikely to get it certified for Fox!

What Centrefire calibre were you considering?

Any military background will help BUT will NOT get you a FAC in it's own right..you will have to put a case....

The above is NOT a case.

What 7.62 rifles are you using and is the ammo still FN or are you using RG now?

What weight of bullet do you use in the 5.56?

 

 

dint realise that i was being marked on my spelling

and yea i know that i cant use .22rimfire for deer, hence the question about the centerfire licence!!! i was thinking .243 as i could use it both for fox and smaller deer!?

 

L96 sniper is the one i use on the range for 7.62, as for asking about the ammo, last i checked and it was a while back now it was RG, and the weight of the 5.56 i've never looked into it, standard nato ball round.

 

 

 

The way you fill in the FAC application may well effect the outcome, you will present an image as soon as they read it, spelling IS important.

 

FN don't make ammo, only guns, RG has been used exclusively by the British army for years in 7.62 and 5.56 (except when they nick some dodgy Russian or American Military ammo).

 

7.62 and 5.56 Nato (British Army) are NOT high velocity calibres/rounds, they are high pressure cases, thats all!

 

5.56 Standard Nato rounds use 62g FMJ bullets.

 

Good luck with your application!

[vincy 3]

deker i am shit at spelling and i have fac and sgc. not everyone as perfect grammar and the firearms deptment know this . why you seam to find the need to take the piss beats me people join these site's for help not to be made to look like fools so unless your willing to help you should keep your mouth shut

[Deker 3,478]

deker i am shit at spelling and i have fac and sgc. not everyone as perfect grammar and the firearms deptment know this . why you seam to find the need to take the piss beats me people join these site's for help not to be made to look like fools so unless your willing to help you should keep your mouth shut

 

 

and "some" people join this site and invent little stories as well. I will be the first to offer any advice I can to anyone who is serious and asks for help! I don't exagerate, I don't take the piss, and I don't wrap things up in cotton wool!

 

The way you fill in the FAC application may well effect the outcome, you will present an image as soon as they read it, spelling IS important. TRUE, I didn't say you can't get a FAC if you can't spell

 

FN don't make ammo, only guns, RG has been used exclusively by the British army for years in 7.62 and 5.56 (except when they nick some dodgy Russian or American Military ammo).

 

7.62 and 5.56 Nato (British Army) are NOT high velocity calibres/rounds, they are high pressure cases, thats all!

 

5.56 Standard Nato rounds use 62g FMJ bullets. doesn't sound strange to you then when he says "im a serving soldier in the British Army and have very regular contact with rifles, mainly 5.56 and 7.62"?

 

Good luck with your application

Edited March 20, 2008 by Deker

[Ratman2 2]

deker i am shit at spelling and i have fac and sgc. not everyone as perfect grammar and the firearms deptment know this . why you seam to find the need to take the piss beats me people join these site's for help not to be made to look like fools so unless your willing to help you should keep your mouth shut

 

I feel sure Decker’s not really bothered about the spelling but more concerned about sappers total lack of knowledge of firearms, I know I am.

[vincy 3]

if sapper is a member of the british army he should have a bit more respect they fight for queen and country .who said sapper had no knowledge about firearms he was asked a couple of questions about ammo surely the army dont tell you the makes just the calibre . why is it that all these shooting site's have a couple of bullies that seam to take the piss and get away with it because they make a few post's they think what they say is gospel

[young1982 1]

Vincy,

It’s not the spelling that’s the issue hear it’s the total lack of knowledge and the terminology that’s making people suspicious, I know I am .

 

Also Deker is one of the most active users on this forum and knows his stuff when it comes to shooting and has no problem with helping people out, I’ve asked him questions before in the past and he’s been glad answer them.

 

We are all within our rights to question the credibility of users we’re not sure about. By giving them a grilling it tends to put them off posting topics, thus we don’t get hundreds of stupid posts all the time.

[jamie g 17]

i no a guy that has just been granted 243 1st time of asking mate. he hasnt had rifles before.

he has only had shotguns. which he has had for 30 years. best thing about it is he has got to have mentoring to !

and he comes under west mercia like me. which if you no they are not easy to get stuff off sometimes. ie''

they like you to have mentoring and like you to pass a deer course 1st ! so he must have met the feo on a good day ! good luck fella and by the way the spelling helps so make sure you get it looking good.

do what i did get your girlfriend to fill it out and you sign it my spelling isnt the best but my writing is scruffy

Edited March 21, 2008 by jamie g

[Deker 3,478]

if sapper is a member of the british army he should have a bit more respect they fight for queen and country .who said sapper had no knowledge about firearms he was asked a couple of questions about ammo surely the army dont tell you the makes just the calibre . why is it that all these shooting site's have a couple of bullies that seam to take the piss and get away with it because they make a few post's they think what they say is gospel

 

 

Vincy

IF sapper is a member of the armed forces he is a disgrace and god help us all.

 

Unlike sapper I do have some knowledge of the army and their tools and ammo!

 

I also have the greatest respect for ALL of our armed forces, but let me clarify something..Sapper, by his own admission has a lot of firearms experience including the "L96 sniper is the one i use on the range for 7.62"

 

Hardly anyone in the forces gets to use this rifle, it is an expensive and medium/long range sniper rifle. The only way you get to play with one of these properly is to work your way up the ranks shooting wise, and become an excellent shot, and then be offered/told you are going into expert training. The vast majority of regular soldiers will never touch one of these!

 

ANY soldier who uses one is an expert in munitions, ballisitcs and has spent an eternity on the range.

 

That same person knows fully well that Radway Green is the supplier of 7.62 and 5.56 standard Nato rounds to the British Army and that the 5.56 has a 62g FMJ bullet.

 

I have the utmost disgust and contempt for any S**t that suggest they fight for queen and country when they don't!

 

Try reading sappers very first post here again...then tell me it's not bullshit!

Edited March 21, 2008 by Deker

[PaulABF 2]

I'm a serving soldier and I must admit, sapper's post doesn't quite ring true, unless he's a crow trying to big it up which isn't that unusual. Point I'd like to make is that I've used most weapons in the British army from SLR to HK's and I don't know what grain round any of them use.

 

What I do know is that I'm extremely proficient at using weapons and have fired 100's of thousands of rounds down the range and more recently against human beings. Just because someone doesn't know every single microscopic fact about a weapon or it's ammunition system doesn't necessarily mean they don't know what they're doing (sapper could be an exception here!).

 

For those of you sitting pretty in your ivory tower's of geekiness - how many of your 'targets' fire back? Do you have your weapon in your hand or strapped to your body for months at a time? Have you fired that many rounds in a session that the blueing is bubbling and the forestock is burning your hands? Being a font of all knowledge doesn't automatically make you an expert. Your supercilious attitudes are a tad off-putting.

[vincy 3]

paul so could sapper be in the army ??????????

[justin 2]

I'm a serving soldier and I must admit, sapper's post doesn't quite ring true, unless he's a crow trying to big it up which isn't that unusual. Point I'd like to make is that I've used most weapons in the British army from SLR to HK's and I don't know what grain round any of them use.

 

What I do know is that I'm extremely proficient at using weapons and have fired 100's of thousands of rounds down the range and more recently against human beings. Just because someone doesn't know every single microscopic fact about a weapon or it's ammunition system doesn't necessarily mean they don't know what they're doing (sapper could be an exception here!).

 

For those of you sitting pretty in your ivory tower's of geekiness - how many of your 'targets' fire back? Do you have your weapon in your hand or strapped to your body for months at a time? Have you fired that many rounds in a session that the blueing is bubbling and the forestock is burning your hands? Being a font of all knowledge doesn't automatically make you an expert. Your supercilious attitudes are a tad off-putting.