Dogs that dont nake the grade

[Missie 1]

Nice to see you here Spookster!

 

All of mine are rescues and although I openly admit I don't seriously work any of them I would like to try and bring on the lurcher and maybe the young grey if he'll work.

 

I think there is a very fine line. I could never pass on a dog that I had given a home to initially and thats isn't just because i'm soft but also because you give these dogs a home and should be responsible for them.

 

I could understand passing a dog on if a livelihood depended on it but just because it doesn't fit in with a hobby I think is a bit of a cop out. I'll probably get slated for that but its my opinion and I think getting rid of a dog because it doesn't or can't work anymore is disgraceful. If a decent pet home can be found and you know that the dog will have a good life then fair enough but it should be done properly.

Edited March 19, 2008 by Missie

[BUNNY BUSTER 0]

WHY CANT POEPLE JUST BE HONEST BECAUSE WHAT MIGHT NOT BE GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU MAY BE BRILLIANT FOR SOME ONE ELSE MY GREYXSALUKIE/COLLIE IS 16 MONTHS SHE HAS A POOR RECALL, NOT TO BE TRUSTED WITH SHEEP, DOESN'T BRING STRIGHT BACK TO HAND AND HER STRIKE IS NOT PERFECT. BUT WHEN IAM OUT AND ABOUT SHE'LL COURSE HARE FOR FUN (WHEN WE ACCIDENTLY COME ACROSS THEM) SHES ACCOUNTED FOR EIGHT THIS SEASON AND WHEN I GO ON SHORT LAMPING OUTTINGS SHE WILL ACCOUNT FOR 3 OR 4 RABBITS WITH IN 30-45 MINS FOR ME WITH ALL HER FAULTS IS GREAT AND SHES A GOOD FAMILY PET TO SOME ONE ELSE BECAUSE OF HER FAULTS SHE MAY BE CRAP. BUT A LEAST IF WE ARE ALL HONEST ALL DOGS CAN FIND THE RIGHT HOME FOR THEM

Edited March 19, 2008 by BUNNY BUSTER

[Guest dog on]

The real question is why do the dogs get passed on.

 

Mainly because they are shit.

 

Why are they?

 

Because the individuals responsible have not put the time in to make sure the dog makes the grade. it is very easy to blame the dog and these individuals will more than likely find the same problem with the next dog and the next dog.

 

I can understand a dog jacking on stuff that bites back but even then it should make the grade as a lurcher of some sorts whether it be for mooching or rabbiting etc.

 

Like I say nine times out of ten you should look at the owners to find the fault not the dog!

i fully agree with what you say and the sooner people realise this the beter .i just cant work out why people dont take the time to see the dogs work before they part with their money .and this situation is geting worse .back in the 70,s and ,s if a dog was no good and it came up for sale the sellers only real chance was to sell it to a pet home because word soon got out that it was no good because sombody took the time to see it work .now you only have to put it in a add and some one is waiting to buy it .if you cant get to see it work your self get some one of this site who lives near to go and see it work .and if it is no good say so on here.then these usles dogs will not be pased from piller to post and end up in kennels.then there is a good chance of the true lurcher making a come back.

Edited March 19, 2008 by dog on

[Paul in North Lincs 15]

WHY CANT POEPLE JUST BE HONEST BECAUSE WHAT MIGHT NOT BE GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU MAY BE BRILLIANT FOR SOME ONE ELSE MY GREYXSALUKIE/COLLIE IS 16 MONTHS SHE HAS A POOR RECALL, NOT TO BE TRUSTED WITH SHEEP, DOESN'T BRING STRIGHT BACK TO HAND AND HER STRIKE IS NOT PERFECT. BUT WHEN IAM OUT AND ABOUT SHE'LL COURSE HARE FOR FUN (WHEN WE ACCIDENTLY COME ACROSS THEM) SHES ACCOUNTED FOR EIGHT THIS SEASON AND WHEN I GO ON SHORT LAMPING OUTTINGS SHE WILL ACCOUNT FOR 3 OR 4 RABBITS WITH IN 30-45 MINS FOR ME WITH ALL HER FAULTS IS GREAT AND SHES A GOOD FAMILY PET TO SOME ONE ELSE BECAUSE OF HER FAULTS SHE MAY BE CRAP. BUT A LEAST IF WE ARE ALL HONEST ALL DOGS CAN FIND THE RIGHT HOME FOR THEM

 

 

 

 

good enough ............................ perhaps its peoples expectations thats the problem... Seasoned lurcher men understand that you only get out what you put in....... and a perfect dog in every aspect if very hard come by..................

 

On the other hand the chavvy generation of 'runners' expect everything to be handed to them on a plate...like all things in their lifes.......and when it dont work...... ferk it off like a 2 bob........................

[Rocks 77]

I think that some dogs work different for different people and a dog that has good qualities but you do not get on with could be rehomed, other than that I think PTS is the next option. I think if more dogs were PTS as soon as they were found wanting the better the general dog pop would be. I think that a dog that is not going to work should not be rehomed as it is the responsibilty of the owner or breeder for every pup sold If you have the emotional capacity to bring it into this world you should be prepared to take it out. playing god is a two way street.

[spookster 0]

I think that some dogs work different for different people and a dog that has good qualities but you do not get on with could be rehomed, other than that I think PTS is the next option. I think if more dogs were PTS as soon as they were found wanting the better the general dog pop would be. I think that a dog that is not going to work should not be rehomed as it is the responsibilty of the owner or breeder for every pup sold If you have the emotional capacity to bring it into this world you should be prepared to take it out. playing god is a two way street.

 

Do you think all those dogs I posted pictures of are better off dead sure they are just as happy with there life as your working dogs are! The pictures say it all. I understand not all pet homes are going to be right but I think you owe it to your dog to do the best for them when their working days are over!! pts is an easy option!!

edited to add all the recued lurchers I know are neutered so they aren't going to be bred from. So maybe if ownere neutered their non workers before rehoming them that would gaurentee no useless pups from them???

Edited March 19, 2008 by spookster

[Missie 1]

Do you think all those dogs I posted pictures of are better off dead sure they are just as happy with there life as your working dogs are! The pictures say it all. I understand not all pet homes are going to be right but I think you owe it to your dog to do the best for them when their working days are over!!

 

Many lurchers don't get the life and exercise that yours do once they go into pet homes, I will concede that. BUT every lurcher owner has a responsibility to make sure that the dog they discard is properly looked after and found a home. PTS should be a final option and I do know that sometimes it is the best option for 'some' dogs rather than being found a new home but in this situation I think the owner should keep the dog with them. Dogs are dogs, not just tools for a job to be discarded when they are no longer of use.

[spookster 0]

Just a little addition. when I took my boys lure coursing the boys who organised it, asked if they could put spook onto thier bitch. They didn't know he was a recued hound they just say a very keen dog that ran very well!! Being a resuce boy he is neutered, good or not he wont be reproducing so no problems with more hounds coming from most 'pet home' hounds!

[whin 463]

i dont ever pass a dog on and ive sold good dogs that were not for me m some would catch rabbs very well, fox but not hares and deer when it was legal , so realy .i sold a dog for 750 once not a lot of money but he was fully trained and had to go ,but rarely do i sell a dog , and im more likely to give one away to trusted freinds if the dogs dont suit me or getting on a bit , had bad luck with a few dogs they died long before they were old and feched , the reason i used to sell dogs they maybe goood dogs but turned out ass end dogs on roe so goodbye, etc never had a failure dog had some better than others but if you breeed right and enter [bANNED TEXT] they shopuld turn decent iys just your expeirence and sound breeding , my retirees if good i breed of or try and get a good home if not i would put them to sleep al the best

[DIGZY 4]

get a pup from dogs that have proven in the field and do the training then you shouldnt go wrong

 

then the local papers wouldnt be full of all the shit

[zap 4]

If a dog does not make the grade required of it then it should be put down for the following reasons,

 

(A) It saves the unfortunate dog the stress etc of being passed from home to home.

 

( It prevents unscrupulous individuals breeding from inferior stock thereby strengthening the lurcher gene pool as a whole.

 

© It costs the same amount of money, time and effort to keep a good dog as it does to keep a bad one.

 

I don't agree that pts should be the first option, I am so pleased the people who had my lot before me didn't chose that option. i can't imagine life without them!

here are some pictures of a walk I was on with 18 rescued lurchers and greyhounds!

Some of thses dogs were in a real mess when taken on by their pet homes and look at them now, happy and fit!

Spot on i bet you have some fun with that lot ,welldone you

[Rocks 77]

I think that some dogs work different for different people and a dog that has good qualities but you do not get on with could be rehomed, other than that I think PTS is the next option. I think if more dogs were PTS as soon as they were found wanting the better the general dog pop would be. I think that a dog that is not going to work should not be rehomed as it is the responsibilty of the owner or breeder for every pup sold If you have the emotional capacity to bring it into this world you should be prepared to take it out. playing god is a two way street.

 

Do you think all those dogs I posted pictures of are better off dead sure they are just as happy with there life as your working dogs are! The pictures say it all. I understand not all pet homes are going to be right but I think you owe it to your dog to do the best for them when their working days are over!! pts is an easy option!!

edited to add all the recued lurchers I know are neutered so they aren't going to be bred from. So maybe if ownere neutered their non workers before rehoming them that would gaurentee no useless pups from them???

 

I did not say anything about retireing but since you brought it up I think fixing a dog and sending it to a pet home or a beginer home is fine but that is not what this was about it is about pawning shit off. Good to see you are happy keeping dogs that are culls they are happy and healthy good on ya. I posted my veiw on dogs that are not up to snuff. If you like I can send you my culls at your expence. I am responsible for my dogs and there pups I do not sell sight hounds and doubt I will. If the dogs were culled when not wanted and not past on there would be no need for over crowded shelters and non-workers being bred just for the pet market. These dogs are bred to hunt and should be owned by hunters, it is unfair to the dog to not do what it is genetically programed to do. Passing of inferior dogs is a load of bollocks.

[spookster 0]

I think that some dogs work different for different people and a dog that has good qualities but you do not get on with could be rehomed, other than that I think PTS is the next option. I think if more dogs were PTS as soon as they were found wanting the better the general dog pop would be. I think that a dog that is not going to work should not be rehomed as it is the responsibilty of the owner or breeder for every pup sold If you have the emotional capacity to bring it into this world you should be prepared to take it out. playing god is a two way street.

 

Do you think all those dogs I posted pictures of are better off dead sure they are just as happy with there life as your working dogs are! The pictures say it all. I understand not all pet homes are going to be right but I think you owe it to your dog to do the best for them when their working days are over!! pts is an easy option!!

edited to add all the recued lurchers I know are neutered so they aren't going to be bred from. So maybe if ownere neutered their non workers before rehoming them that would gaurentee no useless pups from them???

 

I did not say anything about retireing but since you brought it up I think fixing a dog and sending it to a pet home or a beginer home is fine but that is not what this was about it is about pawning shit off. Good to see you are happy keeping dogs that are culls they are happy and healthy good on ya. I posted my veiw on dogs that are not up to snuff. If you like I can send you my culls at your expence. I am responsible for my dogs and there pups I do not sell sight hounds and doubt I will. If the dogs were culled when not wanted and not past on there would be no need for over crowded shelters and non-workers being bred just for the pet market. These dogs are bred to hunt and should be owned by hunters, it is unfair to the dog to not do what it is genetically programed to do. Passing of inferior dogs is a load of bollocks.

 

Sorry I tought this post was about what to do with failed workers, I didn't mean retire i meant the end of their hunting days for what ever reason! What isn't fair about the life those dogs are living in the pictures i posted? The look very happy well adjusted dogs, I think maybe some people play 'god' and think there views are the only views. I think those dogs say it all, happy well adjusted dogs. They do not look like they are suffering to me??? I think the mass breeding of lurchers by People who 'want a couple of dogs' is wrong Lurcher litters are quite big what happens to the other 8 well out of two litters i have one and my brothers has one. Do you think those dogs should have been culled???They are loved feed worm and well exercised!!!

[Guest bigredbusa]

why pass shite dogs around ?

 

[spookster 0]

why pass shite dogs around ?

 

 

My dogs aren't shite in my opinion!! who are you to play 'god'?? My dogs are with me until they die, i don't pass them around!!

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