lurchermick 0 Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 i have a ferret off last years young only really started her off the past 6 weeks or so and was doing ok..well anyway when are there seasons and do you need to breed them or is it just a myth that she will die if not lined cheers mick Quote Link to post
Kay 3,709 Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 i have a ferret off last years young only really started her off the past 6 weeks or so and was doing ok..well anyway when are there seasons and do you need to breed them or is it just a myth that she will die if not linedcheers mick Mick she needs bringing out of season , she will swell up like this to some degree, its at this point she will need to be brought out of season several methods can be used run her with a vasectomised hob A hormone injection given by the vets Allow her to have a litter Speying is the only permanent method Quote Link to post
para1 11 Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 do you not listing to me at all lol , its more of the longer the swelling of the vulva , the more chance of it picking up infections from urine / feices ect which then causes the ferret to die not the actual reason because the ferret was not mated , so alot of people tend to line them as its only once a year , a beleive your question to be a myth , then again i may be wrong , but myself have had ferrets and not lined them and they didnt die , ... Spot on mate when in season keep them very clean or will become infected Quote Link to post
Guest oldskool Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 funnily enough when i was a kid i was told that their life span is alot longer when theyre bred from... if they were'nt bred from they only lived to about 4 where as if they are bred from only the once they can live ong past that!! i never managed to keep ferrets for very long to find out Quote Link to post
mush 204 Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 (edited) its going to be better if you do bring them out of season, but back when i first had ferrets i rarely bred off any of the jills and they lived a very long time. Edited March 16, 2008 by mush Quote Link to post
notts 0 Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 kay, is the vulva in that pic the normal size or is she a large jill? ive got a smallish jill her vulva as been out for about 2 weeks and dont seem to be getting any bigger and its nowhere near the size of the one in the pic. cant make up my mind wether she's ready for mating or needs a little longer.. any thoughts? cheers. Quote Link to post
Kay 3,709 Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 kay, is the vulva in that pic the normal size or is she a large jill? ive got a smallish jill her vulva as been out for about 2 weeks and dont seem to be getting any bigger and its nowhere near the size of the one in the pic. cant make up my mind wether she's ready for mating or needs a little longer.. any thoughts? cheers. That pictures only for people to see what the swelling will look like if your jills been swollen for a two week period then i would say she is ready to be brought out of season, it does depend from jill to jill how much they swell Quote Link to post
notts 0 Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 thanks kay, im sure she must be ready now, i'll see how she gets on with my hob.... Quote Link to post
MikeTheDog 153 Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 do you not listing to me at all lol , its more of the longer the swelling of the vulva , the more chance of it picking up infections from urine / feices ect which then causes the ferret to die not the actual reason because the ferret was not mated , so alot of people tend to line them as its only once a year , a beleive your question to be a myth , then again i may be wrong , but myself have had ferrets and not lined them and they didnt die , ... HH,...If the jill is not brought out of season she could get aplastic anemia and as a result she could possible become ill and die. Old School and Mush,..... Notts,....That is a normal sized jill, well it is to me anyway, I have seen larger jills. By the way, the swelling is going down in that picture, she was larger :sick: Quote Link to post
Kay 3,709 Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 As Mike pointed out about aplastic anemia , jills left in season will carry on producing estrogen , its that continued production that can lead to the aplastic anemia , as ferrets are induced ovulators they need to be induced to slow up the production of estrogen as its high levels are toxic to the bone marrow. Quote Link to post
Kay 3,709 Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 do you not listing to me at all lol , its more of the longer the swelling of the vulva , the more chance of it picking up infections from urine / feices ect which then causes the ferret to die not the actual reason because the ferret was not mated , so alot of people tend to line them as its only once a year , a beleive your question to be a myth , then again i may be wrong , but myself have had ferrets and not lined them and they didnt die , ... HH,...If the jill is not brought out of season she could get aplastic anemia and as a result she could possible become ill and die. Old School and Mush,..... Notts,....That is a normal sized jill, well it is to me anyway, I have seen larger jills. By the way, the swelling is going down in that picture, she was larger :sick: could yes , but alot of deaths are caused through infection . the question he asked was if the ferret WAS NOT mated , as some one stated there are other ways of bringing it out of season , Well it probably stems from the fact that a hundred yrs ago i doubt there were any people out there who whould have had a vasectomised hob & there would have been no hormone injections, so the only logical answer was to breed the jill Quote Link to post
MikeTheDog 153 Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 I'm obviousley missing something HH... ...I was not picking anyone up, I just made a statement with reference to your comment "a beleive your question to be a myth" that was directed at lurchermick's question, "do you need to breed them or is it just a myth that she will die if not"....Answere to that question put more simply.....Possibly yes! Quote Link to post
Kay 3,709 Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 I'm obviousley missing something HH... ...I was not picking anyone up, I just made a statement with reference to your comment "a beleive your question to be a myth" that was directed at lurchermick's question, "do you need to breed them or is it just a myth that she will die if not"....Answere to that question put more simply.....Possibly yes! prob yes? .. not getting into a debate , BUT i have kept them not mated them , and its still going on strong now , .. im sure other people have also , IMO opinion its a NO , is there some scientific FACT if there is please point it out to me and will hold my hand up and say im wrong , so i believe it to be a myth , and i quote myself * then again i may be wrong* ... which i said in the 1st post on this , ... but if its true , then good advice giving , and dont take anything ive said with a pinch of salt lol Is there any scientific fact that leaving a jill in prolonged esterus wont effect her health ? Quote Link to post
para1 11 Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 I believe it to be a myth.Your fert could die from an INFECTION not threw not being mated. Never lost a jill in 35 yrs threw not mating Keep them clean no probs.But the easiest way is as already said a hob firing blanks Quote Link to post
Kay 3,709 Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 I believe it to be a myth.Your fert could die from an INFECTION not threw not being mated.Never lost a jill in 35 yrs threw not mating Keep them clean no probs.But the easiest way is as already said a hob firing blanks Well if you leave the swelling as it is its more likely she will get some kind of infection basically as the vulva is open & they are so low to the ground, so by keeping them clean & tidy cage wise that should reduce the risk of infection, but its not the only reason they need to be brought out of season as indicated a few posts back Quote Link to post
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