luckyjohn 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 i'm going for a variation on my fac not sure what gun to go for as i'm new to this shooting scene ..i got an anshultz 1.7hmr so i foned up yesterday to see if i could get a bigger gun i asked for a 222 they said fill in the form with 26 squids and send it to us ...but askin around people say gat a 223 more guns better ammo or is it the gunshop i went to had lots of 223 on the shelf and no 222..help needed.. can someone tell me which gun to buy and a descent set of scopes budget not a problem ...TIA Quote Link to post
barrym3 11 Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 i'm going for a variation on my fac not sure what gun to go for as i'm new to this shooting scene ..i got an anshultz 1.7hmr so i foned up yesterday to see if i could get a bigger gun i asked for a 222 they said fill in the form with 26 squids and send it to us ...but askin around people say gat a 223 more guns better ammo or is it the gunshop i went to had lots of 223 on the shelf and no 222..help needed.. can someone tell me which gun to buy and a descent set of scopes budget not a problem ...TIA personally 222 if the gunshop has loads of 223 does that no tell you something 222 is a great gun for me it would be a 222 or 22.250 never a 223 dont like them Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Barry, I couldn't disagree more. 223 all the way. The ammo is cheap and plentiful, and so are the rifles. 222 is somewhat pointless - the difference between it and 223 isn't large enough to make one safe where the other might not be, and 222 costs more to buy and is rarer. 223 does everything up to small deer, making it a very versatile calibre indeed. Quote Link to post
barrym3 11 Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Barry, I couldn't disagree more. 223 all the way. The ammo is cheap and plentiful, and so are the rifles. 222 is somewhat pointless - the difference between it and 223 isn't large enough to make one safe where the other might not be, and 222 costs more to buy and is rarer. 223 does everything up to small deer, making it a very versatile calibre indeed. I had one just didnt like it at all i found the 222 a far better gun yes the 223 can take a heavier bullet but i got rid of the 223 and got a 22.250 thats a great gun would never go by that Quote Link to post
njc110381 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 The .223 has so much more to offer. It's more popular so ammo is easy to find and cheap. It is slightly more powerful although not a lot. There's a vast range of rifles in .223. As for .22-250, look at the ammo cost, shorter barrel life, added noise (although all of them are loud compared to a rimfire!) when compared to the .223. You get more range, but do you need it? I've just been through the centrefire .22 thing myself. I went for .223. 300 yards is a long way, and it will fly that far just as easily as the others at a fraction of the cost Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 22-250 is better out to 300, it's pretty much flat that far so does have the edge over 223. BUT, it is louder, less barrel life, more expensive (4-5x the cost of 223) ammo, AND you can't use it on lots of ranges. Hence, for me, 223 is the better bet. But, if ALL you do is whack foxes at 200+ yards, it's the better calibre. It doesn't do roe deer legally (it has plenty of grunt, just like 223, shame the RSPCA didn't know that...) and it's a hell of a lot (both money and grunt) for a bunny rabbit. Quote Link to post
Tikka T3 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 ok . use a .222 absolutely superb very accurate and ammo is no problem at least down my way .not a lot between 223 and 222 as for the 22.250 you gotta use this cal .no comparison to the other two cals and dont listen to the hype about noise yes the 22.250 is loader but most people fit a mod on it and theres no difference once a mod is fitted and as long as you dont go putting round after round and getting a hot barrel they will last a fair old while . and lets be fair they are all great cals when you find the load they like and will do the job in hand .the thing is you will always get different views as people have the different cals you will be happy im sure with your choice. try the tikka,s they are great guns and shoot very well and have a first class trigger that can be adjusted to suit very easily good luck t3 Quote Link to post
barrym3 11 Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 22-250 is better out to 300, it's pretty much flat that far so does have the edge over 223. BUT, it is louder, less barrel life, more expensive (4-5x the cost of 223) ammo, AND you can't use it on lots of ranges. Hence, for me, 223 is the better bet. But, if ALL you do is whack foxes at 200+ yards, it's the better calibre. It doesn't do roe deer legally (it has plenty of grunt, just like 223, shame the RSPCA didn't know that...) and it's a hell of a lot (both money and grunt) for a bunny rabbit. i am in scotland so i can legally shoot roe with it great calibre i know ammo is more expensive byt its down to what calibre suits you i am happy with the 22.250 great gun for the foxes and the roe Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 22-250 is better out to 300, it's pretty much flat that far so does have the edge over 223. BUT, it is louder, less barrel life, more expensive (4-5x the cost of 223) ammo, AND you can't use it on lots of ranges. Hence, for me, 223 is the better bet. But, if ALL you do is whack foxes at 200+ yards, it's the better calibre. It doesn't do roe deer legally (it has plenty of grunt, just like 223, shame the RSPCA didn't know that...) and it's a hell of a lot (both money and grunt) for a bunny rabbit. i am in scotland so i can legally shoot roe with it great calibre i know ammo is more expensive byt its down to what calibre suits you i am happy with the 22.250 great gun for the foxes and the roe Lucky sod! 22-250 would be a great roe calibre, certainly has the poke for it. Quote Link to post
barrym3 11 Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 22-250 is better out to 300, it's pretty much flat that far so does have the edge over 223. BUT, it is louder, less barrel life, more expensive (4-5x the cost of 223) ammo, AND you can't use it on lots of ranges. Hence, for me, 223 is the better bet. But, if ALL you do is whack foxes at 200+ yards, it's the better calibre. It doesn't do roe deer legally (it has plenty of grunt, just like 223, shame the RSPCA didn't know that...) and it's a hell of a lot (both money and grunt) for a bunny rabbit. i am in scotland so i can legally shoot roe with it great calibre i know ammo is more expensive byt its down to what calibre suits you i am happy with the 22.250 great gun for the foxes and the roe Lucky sod! 22-250 would be a great roe calibre, certainly has the poke for it. i have shot 6 roe in the past week and only 1 went about 50 yards then fell the rest fell where they were hit its a great calibre for roe deer i dont bother the reds so thats why i got the 22.250 Quote Link to post
jamie g 17 Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 22-250 is better out to 300, it's pretty much flat that far so does have the edge over 223. BUT, it is louder, less barrel life, more expensive (4-5x the cost of 223) ammo, AND you can't use it on lots of ranges. Hence, for me, 223 is the better bet. But, if ALL you do is whack foxes at 200+ yards, it's the better calibre. It doesn't do roe deer legally (it has plenty of grunt, just like 223, shame the RSPCA didn't know that...) and it's a hell of a lot (both money and grunt) for a bunny rabbit. 22/250 ammo here is the same as 223 ammo so i guess i will be ok once i get mine. as for 222 or 223 i would have the 223 more choice of rifles more choice of ammo. hold value better to i would say. but they say 22 is a more accurate round out to 200 then 223 but if a rifle can group 1 inch at 100 yards which most can easy then it will be a dead fox at the end of the day no matter what cal centrefire you have. what i would say is there are some nice cheap 222 around at the minute which would be a good buy. just make sure your local gunshop has the ammo in stock if you dont reload Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 As asked .222 or .223...no question .223! Far bigger choice of ammo, far bigger choice of guns, far cheaper ammo, far better future proofed than .222! 22-250 was not asked, but it is flatter and harder hitting, fair choice of guns, ammo is nowhere near as cheap as 223 and nowhere near the choice. Well known for eating the barrels a bit quick! .222 and .223 I see as similar but go for .223 every time! 22-250 I see as different to both! Quote Link to post
Tikka T3 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 forget all the hype about barrel burning if your on the range and putting plenty through it then go for the two smaller calibres other wise go for the 22.250 no comparrison as the poll showed as said plenty of ammo around and once you buy a gun why sell it ? so dont listen to people who critizise 22.250 top cal for foxing good luck Quote Link to post
IanB 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Or go for a .243 thats legal for all the deer species and a good fox calibre ....using 58gr bullets there nice and flat shooting.... Quote Link to post
luckyjohn 0 Posted March 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 ok thanks to everone who made fair comments i have taken them all on board and decided to go with a 223 not sure what gun or scopes ..theres alot out there to choose from thanks again Quote Link to post
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