Cleanspade 3,322 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Tiny well crack on and do your own thing everyone to is own . im sure you will endevour to breed what you want and am glad they arent marketed as Plummers.I would imagine every breed has recessives that crop every now and again..as far as bicoloured terriers go they dont get a pedigree now..they are few and far between as are the pale nosed dogs,old time diseases etc ..thanks to clubs and pedigrees. Bill I bake fine breds for everyday use not luxury cakes for the weekends,I will leave that to the lads who seek out every single plummer class at every show going..then ridicule the KC lol. Steve you ware the emblem of antiestablishment with great gusto and i would say with great pride .. Cowtowing to rules is not everyones idea of fun you amongst many others we as a club are glad have wondered off into the wild blue yonder. Theres always someone or two or three who thinks they can do things better..but seems not sepration from the mother ship usely means death unless rputtions are so great that they keep you alfoat...rare mavericks abound, in the working terrier world but plummers have more than there fare share. Purebred pups are sold here Steve not f1s or f2s3,4,5, or bitsas all are bred for a reason to gain myself a pup, the rest are sold.Sometimes 3 litters a year not massive numbers id say, all spoken for before they are born and sold reasonabley priced ..ask yourslef why that is I MAY BE WRONG BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR MAIN DRIVING FORCE IS KC REGISTRATION. Quote Link to post
EPTR 4 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Certainly is an aim of both the clubs as far as I'm aware and I have no personal problems in having another body involved with the breeders. Policing the muppets is difficlut and more police the better. The day/year the breed is recognised will not see my terriers stop working, they dont know they have been recognised and I presume my mates dogs will be the same. We have always had medlars wanting to breed for money ..you have bull blooded dogs which is no doubt legion bred ..say no more. Quote Link to post
Cleanspade 3,322 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 (edited) Certainly is an aim of both the clubs as far as I'm aware and I have no personal problems in having another body involved with the breeders. Policing the muppets is difficlut and more police the better. The day/year the breed is recognised will not see my terriers stop working, they dont know they have been recognised and I presume my mates dogs will be the same. We have always had medlars wanting to breed for money ..you have bull blooded dogs which is no doubt legion bred ..say no more. i am not anti KC. i just feel they will sterilise the breed. i owned a parson a few years ago who was a good enough worker. and when i got him there was a fair few working in the breed. its a differant story now. very few breeds survive as workers after kc recognition. history tells us that. edited to add my favourite bitch is out of wyremead suzie allthough there is legion in there . Edited May 15, 2010 by Cleanspade Quote Link to post
stormyboy 1,352 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 (edited) Tiny well crack on and do your own thing everyone to is own . im sure you will endevour to breed what you want and am glad they arent marketed as Plummers.I would imagine every breed has recessives that crop every now and again..as far as bicoloured terriers go they dont get a pedigree now..they are few and far between as are the pale nosed dogs,old time diseases etc ..thanks to clubs and pedigrees. Bill I bake fine breds for everyday use not luxury cakes for the weekends,I will leave that to the lads who seek out every single plummer class at every show going..then ridicule the KC lol. Steve you ware the emblem of antiestablishment with great gusto and i would say with great pride .. Cowtowing to rules is not everyones idea of fun you amongst many others we as a club are glad have wondered off into the wild blue yonder. Theres always someone or two or three who thinks they can do things better..but seems not sepration from the mother ship usely means death unless rputtions are so great that they keep you alfoat...rare mavericks abound, in the working terrier world but plummers have more than there fare share. Purebred pups are sold here Steve not f1s or f2s3,4,5, or bitsas all are bred for a reason to gain myself a pup, the rest are sold.Sometimes 3 litters a year not massive numbers id say, all spoken for before they are born and sold reasonabley priced ..ask yourslef why that is When then, does a dog become a plummer? When you say so?? :rofl: :rofl: A masterbaker-now youre THE MOTHER SHIP??? you are taking the piss are'nt you glenn? This is a wind up surely! Come on-lets have the punch line! Edited May 15, 2010 by stormyboy Quote Link to post
tinytiger 822 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 (edited) Edited May 15, 2010 by tinytiger Quote Link to post
tinytiger 822 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 IMG]http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac257/johntierney_photos/008.jpg[/img] Quote Link to post
stormyboy 1,352 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Tidy pups t.t. Are they the f1 or f2? Quote Link to post
goldfinch2007 2,331 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 tiny you got some quality terriers Quote Link to post
dave a 24 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 is the adult bitch doing any bit?she looks very fresh around the head. Quote Link to post
tinytiger 822 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 is the adult bitch doing any bit?she looks very fresh around the head. Shes seen a bit,killed a fox in a drain in short order 2 weeks after those photos were taken,I bred her, but she was out of my hands until she was 13 months didnt enter till she was maybe 18 months and has been dug to a dozen or so times since.THe pups off her are f2s i.e 3/4 plummer 1/4 pitbull.with that breeding i did i was chasing the bitches dam(R.I>P) who was the gamest ive seen(well in the top 2)-shes both grandmothers of the pups Quote Link to post
dave a 24 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 (edited) is the adult bitch doing any bit?she looks very fresh around the head. Shes seen a bit,killed a fox in a drain in short order 2 weeks after those photos were taken,I bred her, but she was out of my hands until she was 13 months didnt enter till she was maybe 18 months and has been dug to a dozen or so times since.THe pups off her are f2s i.e 3/4 plummer 1/4 pitbull.with that breeding i did i was chasing the bitches dam(R.I>P) who was the gamest ive seen(well in the top 2)-shes both grandmothers of the pups so you had a dozen digs with her and then bred her?plummers are poor enough without breeding off dogs not properly tested.myself and all the lads i would respect never breed a dog or bitch untill its four or five and well well tested.i saw the done deal ad,the other bitch on that is too fresh around the head for a worker as well??you say the bitches dam is the gamest you seen,is that the gamest dog or gamest plummer?if its the gamest dog you've seen then you haven't seen many game dogs. Edited May 15, 2010 by dave a Quote Link to post
Cleanspade 3,322 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 thanks for putting the pics up tt. thry are plummer types thats for sure. would be good if you kept folk up to date with how the pups get on. the proof is in the pudding. i allways say. good luck with the pups Quote Link to post
stormyboy 1,352 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 is the adult bitch doing any bit?she looks very fresh around the head. Shes seen a bit,killed a fox in a drain in short order 2 weeks after those photos were taken,I bred her, but she was out of my hands until she was 13 months didnt enter till she was maybe 18 months and has been dug to a dozen or so times since.THe pups off her are f2s i.e 3/4 plummer 1/4 pitbull.with that breeding i did i was chasing the bitches dam(R.I>P) who was the gamest ive seen(well in the top 2)-shes both grandmothers of the pups so you had a dozen digs with her and then bred her?plummers are poor enough without breeding off dogs not properly tested.myself and all the lads i would respect never breed a dog or bitch untill its four or five and well well tested.i saw the done deal ad,the other bitch on that is too fresh around the head for a worker as well??you say the bitches dam is the gamest you seen,is that the gamest dog or gamest plummer?if its the gamest dog you've seen then you haven't seen many game dogs. How many plummers have you seen work? Quote Link to post
dave a 24 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 is the adult bitch doing any bit?she looks very fresh around the head. Shes seen a bit,killed a fox in a drain in short order 2 weeks after those photos were taken,I bred her, but she was out of my hands until she was 13 months didnt enter till she was maybe 18 months and has been dug to a dozen or so times since.THe pups off her are f2s i.e 3/4 plummer 1/4 pitbull.with that breeding i did i was chasing the bitches dam(R.I>P) who was the gamest ive seen(well in the top 2)-shes both grandmothers of the pups so you had a dozen digs with her and then bred her?plummers are poor enough without breeding off dogs not properly tested.myself and all the lads i would respect never breed a dog or bitch untill its four or five and well well tested.i saw the done deal ad,the other bitch on that is too fresh around the head for a worker as well??you say the bitches dam is the gamest you seen,is that the gamest dog or gamest plummer?if its the gamest dog you've seen then you haven't seen many game dogs. How many plummers have you seen work? i've seen several personally that were encouraged to work but were only fannylickers,i'm also in dogs a long time and i would know a lot of lads in digging dogs in ireland and a few more in wales,in my whole life in dogs every plummer i came across or heard of from somebody else who's opinion i would trust was useless as a digging dog.from sept. to march i pretty much work dogs fulltime(usually out 4 days a week),i am not a novice in terriers and would't knock a dog without reason but plummers don't deserve respect as digging dogs.How many plummers have you seen work?and i mean proper work,long deep digs,season after season? Quote Link to post
tinytiger 822 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 (edited) is the adult bitch doing any bit?she looks very fresh around the head. Shes seen a bit,killed a fox in a drain in short order 2 weeks after those photos were taken,I bred her, but she was out of my hands until she was 13 months didnt enter till she was maybe 18 months and has been dug to a dozen or so times since.THe pups off her are f2s i.e 3/4 plummer 1/4 pitbull.with that breeding i did i was chasing the bitches dam(R.I>P) who was the gamest ive seen(well in the top 2)-shes both grandmothers of the pups so you had a dozen digs with her and then bred her?plummers are poor enough without breeding off dogs not properly tested.myself and all the lads i would respect never breed a dog or bitch untill its four or five and well well tested.i saw the done deal ad,the other bitch on that is too fresh around the head for a worker as well??you say the bitches dam is the gamest you seen,is that the gamest dog or gamest plummer?if its the gamest dog you've seen then you haven't seen many game dogs. [/qu Working terriers since i was nine(20 plus years) seen plenty patterdales etc go.and theres only one bitch ive seen id rate gamer(a ten pound hairy white mongrel) THis site can be viewed by anyone so thats all ill say (did you ring about them?) Edited May 15, 2010 by tinytiger Quote Link to post
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