Plummer terriers

[stormyboy 1,352]

Ok glenn i am the f1 king,toby was a mongrel and probably not very good as youve seen no proof. hector was a mongrel and probably not very good as youve seen no proof. There never were plummer terriers. You caught us all out with your pup v mink test(???). My humble apologies for correcting your unfounded assumptions.

Hope i haven't left anything out. Oh-sorry for picking up on your dreadful speeling.

Hold on, just one more-you are invariably correct. And too smart for the likes of me.

There i think ive covered it all. If not im sure you will correct me-thank you in advance. Now how about something POSITIVE about WORKING PLUMMER TERRIERS.(Along with some proof obviously). Thats what the threads supposed to be about after all.

Edited July 22, 2010 by stormyboy

[wirral countryman 2,110]

Well Glen yet again no decent content in your post,it seems your never going to face your doubter's on this second rate showpony strain you've developed on the backs of other people,taking up some of your childish remarks on my last post it seems you really were dropped on your head as a baby,that was not my life story,but to illustrate to you that what was good enough for PLUMMER himself was on offer to yourself,while you were playing with your barby dolls I was out there testing and breeding not only terrier's but lurcher's as well,(clue) I am well known locally for having fast traditional bred lurcher's,as regards my challenge,that reply was expected from a known jibber like yourself,you've never answered one direct question on your dogs working ability in 42 pages and should be ashamed of posting on a working terrier forum,regarding the pm list,if any of these owner's of your dogs were of a digging type it might of been different,but you only seem to sell to inexperienced people,is this so you can carry on your masquerade or pretense of being a working terrierman,any one can own a dog,but getting the best out of it is a skill and I'm afraid you fall a long way short of the mark,this breed deserves to have better at the helm than an idiot like yourself,how you haven't been sussed up to now is beyond me.I think we should run a poll on the terrier site to see who thinks you're representing this breed properly,popular your not I can assure you of that,my pm's back that up for sure,are you not capable of getting along with anyone?I await with anticipation and mouth agog for your childish retort on this post or will you wait a few day's while whoever you get to write your replies sends you it,wirralman

[snipercp 0]

i have a 5 year old plummer she is best at getting rats and mice, with rabbits she is brilliant a marking as people has said she isnt the friendlyest dog. some pics

 

 

http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz44/ferreterperkins/DSCF0553.jpg

 

http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz44/ferreterperkins/campingandhunting058-1.jpg

[wirral countryman 2,110]

i have a 5 year old plummer she is best at getting rats and mice, with rabbits she is brilliant a marking as people has said she isnt the friendlyest dog. some pics

 

 

http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz44/ferreterperkins/DSCF0553.jpg

 

http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz44/ferreterperkins/campingandhunting058-1.jpg

thats a nice little bitch mate,do you know how its bred?atb,wirralman

[Cleanspade 3,322]

nice 1 clean spade, it only took 40 pages 2 c a worker, credit 2 u

 

SORRY ALI I CANT TAKE CREDIT FOR THAT DOG. ITS NOT MY DOG. BUT IS A WORKER. YIS CS

[hedz31 1,308]

i cant belive theres 42 pages on perhaps the worst bred flop of an earth dog breed or type to grace the british isles and its 42 pages of bitching at that, theres far better terriers and terrier mens dogs to talk about surely

[wirral countryman 2,110]

i cant belive theres 42 pages on perhaps the worst bred flop of an earth dog breed or type to grace the british isles and its 42 pages of bitching at that, theres far better terriers and terrier mens dogs to talk about surely

 

 

You can't have owned one then or you have had a second rate poorly bred dog,I've owned all the so called big named breeds and this dog in the right hands of the correct breeding is as good as any in my opinion,all dogmen bitch,atb,wirralman

[stormyboy 1,352]

i cant belive theres 42 pages on perhaps the worst bred flop of an earth dog breed or type to grace the british isles and its 42 pages of bitching at that, theres far better terriers and terrier mens dogs to talk about surely

 

I see where you're coming from hedz-the thread has gone to shit as it always does with plummers. I'm guilty of being drawn in,but its obvious that its all futile,Like arguing with a premenstrual woman. (No offence to the ladies-you actually make more sense!)

 

With respect though,you are wrong about the plummers working ability-they work as good as any from the right lines. It does seem to me that some are losing sight of the fact in the race for kc reg. Personally i dont give a damn about getting reg for the breed,type, call them what you will. Yes they must be bred to a standard and have been relatively true to type for a good number of years. Arguments about breed or type? Best left to those that care-no one can say if and when they became a breed,so if that makes them a type,so be it. Its all a matter of opinion,which all are entitled to.

Thankfully there are breeders whose main aim is to produce working plummers and long may they continue.

[hedz31 1,308]

i cant belive theres 42 pages on perhaps the worst bred flop of an earth dog breed or type to grace the british isles and its 42 pages of bitching at that, theres far better terriers and terrier mens dogs to talk about surely

 

 

You can't have owned one then or you have had a second rate poorly bred dog,I've owned all the so called big named breeds and this dog in the right hands of the correct breeding is as good as any in my opinion,all dogmen bitch,atb,wirralman

Nope ive never owned one dont think i will ever bother either and i dont dispute what you say but there few and far between you dont hear of many good earth dogs being plummer terriers that is fact the only ones i have seen look bred for the show ring and were far to happy snapping at each other and any other dog that came near them its my opinion and mine alone it does not make it right but i dont think they will ever make anything working wise while there is to many folk breeding them for the show ring and for money i am no follower and no very little of the named terriers but anybody can see thats what is happening with this type of terrier its all about the £££££££££££

regards hedz

[stormyboy 1,352]

Each to their own hedz. They dont make good pets as they need a lot of stimulation to keep them occupied or they find other outlets-aggression is often displayed by working terriers of all types when the hunting instinct is not channeled- plummers are especially fiery when not worked regularly. I've always found if you keep them busy you have no problems with over aggression.

[EPTR 4]

Wrong again bill they make great pets I gave a bitch pup 13 years ago to a friend for his daughters 13th she taught it allsorts .An dis in better home than most working terrier homes as she actuly cares about the pup.

 

The daughter grew up with a plummer now left home and is now an adult ..the pup she owned was left with the parents it died last year ..they came back and had another pup and girl has one to ..brilliant .

 

These are not the first many I know have been sold to none working homes and do better. Rehomed working terriers to do sometimes go to pet homes and thay also end up doing well.

 

 

I have no quarms at all about pet/companion homes and exepriance again tells me thta they are sound ...as long as the owner is knowledgebale...and has the time to exercise.

[EPTR 4]

Toby lost to ground ..before used ..typical working terrier attitude work first the legend dies briliant dog left nothing behind ..er now what..nowt in reserve not even a single insurance litter ???

 

"Typical working terrier attitude",you really that stupid to not know it's called testing your stock and seeing if it's worth breeding from and imo it does make you look a proper twat saying such things on a working terrier topic glen.

 

You working terrier folk it seems you've all been breeding it wrong for hundreds of years now? .

 

 

yea and the fastes way to loose some of the most needed genes in a new breed.

 

instinct is inherited ..IMO and so genetcis goverens it ..Simpley put ...no need to test your dogs first..but always best to have insurance ..toby didnt produce nowt ..so its back to medling about with f2s again lol

Edited July 26, 2010 by EPTR

[EPTR 4]

Well Glen yet again no decent content in your post,it seems your never going to face your doubter's on this second rate showpony strain you've developed on the backs of other people,taking up some of your childish remarks on my last post it seems you really were dropped on your head as a baby,that was not my life story,but to illustrate to you that what was good enough for PLUMMER himself was on offer to yourself,while you were playing with your barby dolls I was out there testing and breeding not only terrier's but lurcher's as well,(clue) I am well known locally for having fast traditional bred lurcher's,as regards my challenge,that reply was expected from a known jibber like yourself,you've never answered one direct question on your dogs working ability in 42 pages and should be ashamed of posting on a working terrier forum,regarding the pm list,if any of these owner's of your dogs were of a digging type it might of been different,but you only seem to sell to inexperienced people,is this so you can carry on your masquerade or pretense of being a working terrierman,any one can own a dog,but getting the best out of it is a skill and I'm afraid you fall a long way short of the mark,this breed deserves to have better at the helm than an idiot like yourself,how you haven't been sussed up to now is beyond me.I think we should run a poll on the terrier site to see who thinks you're representing this breed properly,popular your not I can assure you of that,my pm's back that up for sure,are you not capable of getting along with anyone?I await with anticipation and mouth agog for your childish retort on this post or will you wait a few day's while whoever you get to write your replies sends you it,wirralman

 

"I only sell to the inexperianced"..assumptions again lol your just scared to take the ONE "pm" man out wilrybird even if he is inexperianced lol..surely all the rest that have contacted you one must beworthy of your time no ehh thought as much lol ..help them out wirrely lol all of them .

 

"Second rate" says who ? you?.. assumptions or lies .unbiased again!

 

"developed on the back of others" assumtions again ..and wrong.

 

Most matings i have done are my own ..and those that are not are more than likely instigated by myself as registrar and adviser which is down to experience you lack in the breed.

 

 

If you put up your pedigree i know doubt can likley tell you which of the dogs were mated to which other on my advise too ..

 

And now we are told your the best lurcher man in the country (well traditionally bred lurchers that is) ego or what!..you did'nt breed the lurchers around here olde timer ....

 

"this breed deserves to have better at the helm than an idiot like yourself,how you haven't been sussed up to now is beyond me"

IDIOT !! OOOWW steady now

 

Seems alot of things are beyond your comprehension including the fact that the answer is in your statement if your bright enough to understand that!

 

Perhaps you should take over the helm of this sinking doomed ship every other newbie or in your lots cases that is stormy,friedbrain, whileyoldetimerman.. "ye wisey olde has beeny once over medlars left wi nowt goodolde days workem to death drivvlers" lol

[fireman 10,861]

Depends on what you want the new breed for really .I myself have helped home 4 plummers from pet homes into working homes as they were not sutable as just pets and they were all cases of pretty looking dogs being in the worng hands.But as you say instint is inherited and there is probebly truth in your own bred dogs doing better in pet homes than most.

[Terrie 12]