wirral countryman 2,110 Posted July 3, 2010 Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 Am i wrong in ask why anybody would part with an 18 mth old bitch unless it was useless, or had problems. hello bbb,your bang on the money again,the bitch was rescued 12mts ago after a kid in rotheram was prosecuted, near kicked her to death,broke her ribs and was skin and bone when they found her,its took a long time to get her right,the kid got jail(prick)so you see the size of my task,she's never even been out the yard of the lady who returned her to health,I walked her last night with my other dogs and she joined in the hunt on a couple of bunnies,same thing this morning,she has a good temperament and a sharp nose,can follow a line easy enough,so the nose works ok,breaking her to stock will take a while though as will getting her fit,she can hardly move tonight due to her muscles stiffening up after running about,she is overwieght as well so that don't help my cause,but all that aside she is a nice looker with a surprisingly good temperament considering her past,sometimes we just click with a dog and have to take a chance on it,as far as I'm concerned she has a home for life now and look forward to her progress,she has just had her second season and will not be bred off till she is regularly working 100%,my dogs are worked in some capacity everyday so she will get a very quick education,atb,wirralman Quote Link to post
Big bald beautiful 1,231 Posted July 3, 2010 Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 All the best with the bitch and hope she does you pride Quote Link to post
Alli 923 Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 hy all u plummer men. looking through all ur pages on this thread theres many of u keep saying 1oo% digging. or foxing dogs. i look on the other pages u got lakies,russels,pats.n the od border all with there quarry in digs.ime not asking u plummer ( DIGGING )men to put pics of rats up as any type terrier will hunt rat n small quarry. so prove me wrong get some pics up of these 100% digging PLUMMERS up. dont think u can, no such thing as a true so called bred plummer terriers. COME ON THE PROOFS IN THE PUDDING lets see em Quote Link to post
stormyboy 1,352 Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 Am i wrong in ask why anybody would part with an 18 mth old bitch unless it was useless, or had problems. hello bbb,your bang on the money again,the bitch was rescued 12mts ago after a kid in rotheram was prosecuted, near kicked her to death,broke her ribs and was skin and bone when they found her,its took a long time to get her right,the kid got jail(prick)so you see the size of my task,she's never even been out the yard of the lady who returned her to health,I walked her last night with my other dogs and she joined in the hunt on a couple of bunnies,same thing this morning,she has a good temperament and a sharp nose,can follow a line easy enough,so the nose works ok,breaking her to stock will take a while though as will getting her fit,she can hardly move tonight due to her muscles stiffening up after running about,she is overwieght as well so that don't help my cause,but all that aside she is a nice looker with a surprisingly good temperament considering her past,sometimes we just click with a dog and have to take a chance on it,as far as I'm concerned she has a home for life now and look forward to her progress,she has just had her second season and will not be bred off till she is regularly working 100%,my dogs are worked in some capacity everyday so she will get a very quick education,atb,wirralman Fair play for taking her on wirralman and best of luck with her. Do you know her breeding? Quote Link to post
Big bald beautiful 1,231 Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 ALLI... No fecking chance, i put a picture of my old dog two wks after a dig and the picture was taken off and used on another site slating my dog because it had working scares. i wouldnt post a picture of anything with anything dead, not even my whippet with a rabbit Quote Link to post
fireman 10,931 Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 Been slated myself for showing pics of my plummer and quarry and don't have to prove feck all to anyone about how mine work to be honest but if you've a occupied hole or two come winter i'll show you what she can do mate. Quote Link to post
oyama 27 Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 Thats why I keep mine to myself,as I ain't got nothing to prove to anyone.My lot are coming to the end of there earthwork lives now.Well done for giving the little bitch a second chance,I hope it goes well. Quote Link to post
Alli 923 Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 look on the gallary, plenty legaly caught fox, plenty digging pics. over 3000 pt club members, not 1 pic of a plummer doing earth work, PLUMMER not cross bred plummer, rest my case lol Quote Link to post
Alli 923 Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 though so no pics, unlike plummers u all seem to av gone to ground on this one. oops!!! Quote Link to post
wirral countryman 2,110 Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 look on the gallary, plenty legaly caught fox, plenty digging pics. over 3000 pt club members, not 1 pic of a plummer doing earth work, PLUMMER not cross bred plummer, rest my case lol alli,I know the reputation plummer terrier's have among working dog men and I would agree that while these pups are being bred for sale to the highest bidder 95% of them will never see earthwork,if the drive to breed recognised worker's of the right size was pursued as strongly as the pursuit of KC registration then we would see a change in attitude from people like yourself,if you have never worked this type of dog then you will not be aware of its ability.Picture's can be put up but what does that prove?I've seen picture's put up on here of dogs smashed up and all and sundry come on and congratulate them,why?I've kept most types of terrier and have plenty of pics of dogs smashed up with dead foxes and I learnt my lessons the hard way on some mega-digs taking up to 2 days,the plummer's I have owned are a clever little dog and are not any different than a good leggy russell,if they can bolt a fox clean they will,your red dogs,fells,lakies etc are not very bright upstairs and try to kill everything they come into contact with,every earth becomes a dig and your stuck there half the day at the first hole you come to,thats not a very efficient use of your time or dog,then the dog is laid up for 2wks while it heals up.I can do all the earth's on a farm or estate while your still digging at the first,sometimes,especially at the beginning of the season I find some dogs go in too hard and get chewed up a bit but then for the rest of the season they settle down to what they do best,bolting,some can be called from the earth,a very handy thing when your somewhere you should'nt be, I'd love to see you call your dog out of an earth,I have seen a couple of very hard plummer's that were too hard for me to work regular and were every bit as tough as a fell or lakie but they tended to be a bit bigger than mine,these are my own experiences and have gave an honest account,not every plummer plays with rats,atb,wirralman Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 Am i wrong in ask why anybody would part with an 18 mth old bitch unless it was useless, or had problems. hello bbb,your bang on the money again,the bitch was rescued 12mts ago after a kid in rotheram was prosecuted, near kicked her to death,broke her ribs and was skin and bone when they found her,its took a long time to get her right,the kid got jail(prick)so you see the size of my task,she's never even been out the yard of the lady who returned her to health,I walked her last night with my other dogs and she joined in the hunt on a couple of bunnies,same thing this morning,she has a good temperament and a sharp nose,can follow a line easy enough,so the nose works ok,breaking her to stock will take a while though as will getting her fit,she can hardly move tonight due to her muscles stiffening up after running about,she is overwieght as well so that don't help my cause,but all that aside she is a nice looker with a surprisingly good temperament considering her past,sometimes we just click with a dog and have to take a chance on it,as far as I'm concerned she has a home for life now and look forward to her progress,she has just had her second season and will not be bred off till she is regularly working 100%,my dogs are worked in some capacity everyday so she will get a very quick education,atb,wirralman Who is this twat from rotherham any names.atb dell Quote Link to post
Secret-Fields 7 Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 look on the gallary, plenty legaly caught fox, plenty digging pics. over 3000 pt club members, not 1 pic of a plummer doing earth work, PLUMMER not cross bred plummer, rest my case lol alli,I know the reputation plummer terrier's have among working dog men and I would agree that while these pups are being bred for sale to the highest bidder 95% of them will never see earthwork,if the drive to breed recognised worker's of the right size was pursued as strongly as the pursuit of KC registration then we would see a change in attitude from people like yourself,if you have never worked this type of dog then you will not be aware of its ability.Picture's can be put up but what does that prove?I've seen picture's put up on here of dogs smashed up and all and sundry come on and congratulate them,why?I've kept most types of terrier and have plenty of pics of dogs smashed up with dead foxes and I learnt my lessons the hard way on some mega-digs taking up to 2 days,the plummer's I have owned are a clever little dog and are not any different than a good leggy russell,if they can bolt a fox clean they will,your red dogs,fells,lakies etc are not very bright upstairs and try to kill everything they come into contact with,every earth becomes a dig and your stuck there half the day at the first hole you come to,thats not a very efficient use of your time or dog,then the dog is laid up for 2wks while it heals up.I can do all the earth's on a farm or estate while your still digging at the first,sometimes,especially at the beginning of the season I find some dogs go in too hard and get chewed up a bit but then for the rest of the season they settle down to what they do best,bolting,some can be called from the earth,a very handy thing when your somewhere you should'nt be, I'd love to see you call your dog out of an earth,I have seen a couple of very hard plummer's that were too hard for me to work regular and were every bit as tough as a fell or lakie but they tended to be a bit bigger than mine,these are my own experiences and have gave an honest account,not every plummer plays with rats,atb,wirralman do you dig over your terrier wirrman? how do you rate his staying ability if so? Quote Link to post
Guest dee mac Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 look on the gallary, plenty legaly caught fox, plenty digging pics. over 3000 pt club members, not 1 pic of a plummer doing earth work, PLUMMER not cross bred plummer, rest my case lol alli,I know the reputation plummer terrier's have among working dog men and I would agree that while these pups are being bred for sale to the highest bidder 95% of them will never see earthwork,if the drive to breed recognised worker's of the right size was pursued as strongly as the pursuit of KC registration then we would see a change in attitude from people like yourself,if you have never worked this type of dog then you will not be aware of its ability.Picture's can be put up but what does that prove?I've seen picture's put up on here of dogs smashed up and all and sundry come on and congratulate them,why?I've kept most types of terrier and have plenty of pics of dogs smashed up with dead foxes and I learnt my lessons the hard way on some mega-digs taking up to 2 days,the plummer's I have owned are a clever little dog and are not any different than a good leggy russell,if they can bolt a fox clean they will,your red dogs,fells,lakies etc are not very bright upstairs and try to kill everything they come into contact with,every earth becomes a dig and your stuck there half the day at the first hole you come to,thats not a very efficient use of your time or dog,then the dog is laid up for 2wks while it heals up.I can do all the earth's on a farm or estate while your still digging at the first,sometimes,especially at the beginning of the season I find some dogs go in too hard and get chewed up a bit but then for the rest of the season they settle down to what they do best,bolting,some can be called from the earth,a very handy thing when your somewhere you should'nt be, I'd love to see you call your dog out of an earth,I have seen a couple of very hard plummer's that were too hard for me to work regular and were every bit as tough as a fell or lakie but they tended to be a bit bigger than mine,these are my own experiences and have gave an honest account,not every plummer plays with rats,atb,wirralman do you dig over your terrier wirrman? how do you rate his staying ability if so? wirrall man id like too see you do the earths we hunt in a day with your so called educated dogs and get results as for caling them out i dont think you d have too as they d probably be standing at your heels refusing to enter you actually have the nerve to say in so many words that your bolters are better than proper earth dogs prat you keep telling yourself that and maybe one day you ll believe it i personally think your actually just a lazy person who is nt prepared too put the hard work into rearing and working a proper earth dog so you ve settled for a very poor second best killing rats the staple work of the common house cat. Quote Link to post
Cleanspade 3,323 Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 look on the gallary, plenty legaly caught fox, plenty digging pics. over 3000 pt club members, not 1 pic of a plummer doing earth work, PLUMMER not cross bred plummer, rest my case lol alli,I know the reputation plummer terrier's have among working dog men and I would agree that while these pups are being bred for sale to the highest bidder 95% of them will never see earthwork,if the drive to breed recognised worker's of the right size was pursued as strongly as the pursuit of KC registration then we would see a change in attitude from people like yourself,if you have never worked this type of dog then you will not be aware of its ability.Picture's can be put up but what does that prove?I've seen picture's put up on here of dogs smashed up and all and sundry come on and congratulate them,why?I've kept most types of terrier and have plenty of pics of dogs smashed up with dead foxes and I learnt my lessons the hard way on some mega-digs taking up to 2 days,the plummer's I have owned are a clever little dog and are not any different than a good leggy russell,if they can bolt a fox clean they will,your red dogs,fells,lakies etc are not very bright upstairs and try to kill everything they come into contact with,every earth becomes a dig and your stuck there half the day at the first hole you come to,thats not a very efficient use of your time or dog,then the dog is laid up for 2wks while it heals up.I can do all the earth's on a farm or estate while your still digging at the first,sometimes,especially at the beginning of the season I find some dogs go in too hard and get chewed up a bit but then for the rest of the season they settle down to what they do best,bolting,some can be called from the earth,a very handy thing when your somewhere you should'nt be, I'd love to see you call your dog out of an earth,I have seen a couple of very hard plummer's that were too hard for me to work regular and were every bit as tough as a fell or lakie but they tended to be a bit bigger than mine,these are my own experiences and have gave an honest account,not every plummer plays with rats,atb,wirralman do you dig over your terrier wirrman? how do you rate his staying ability if so? wirrall man id like too see you do the earths we hunt in a day with your so called educated dogs and get results as for caling them out i dont think you d have too as they d probably be standing at your heels refusing to enter you actually have the nerve to say in so many words that your bolters are better than proper earth dogs prat you keep telling yourself that and maybe one day you ll believe it i personally think your actually just a lazy person who is nt prepared too put the hard work into rearing and working a proper earth dog so you ve settled for a very poor second best killing rats the staple work of the common house cat. ive aqllways prefared a bolter to a digging dog. i wouldnt thank you for a stay till dug to dog. if you cant see the benefits a good bolting terrier brings. then its your loss. i admire a good digging dog but wouldnt own something that is counter productive in the way i work my dogs. if you prefare to dig all day to a dog thats fine by me. why do you feel the need to slate dogs that can put 5 or six out to the gun in the same time scale. a GOOD bolting dog is worth two digging dogs in my book. and leaves your prefared terriers workstyle in the shade. and a very poor second best. Quote Link to post
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