Plummer terriers

[fireman 10,859]

Your terriers go to any fecker who will pay the money glen thats who and correct me if i'm wrong but i only thought you bred 2-3 litters a year so why the need for weekly adverts and the boasts of waiting lists?.Billy bullshitter i thinks and to be honest any fecker with a plummer bitch will have a waiting list for pups so no big boast really unless your a puppy peddler with a big self centered ego(sound like anyone you know glen? ).

[WILF 46,534]

 

 

 

ok then, staright up offer, i will bring my dogs to hunt your rats and mink,

 

Dont do it.....they may get marked on the face and what will become of your show season then?

[stormyboy 1,352]

"ive seen a video of you hunting mink with your pack....... best i leave it there and hope your better on the foxes. "

 

MMMM.....the one with the dog baying the mink in a trap in some shed.........legendary. Sending dogs into a deep slurry pit......fair play to the dogs-foolhardy of the owner-to put it mildly........

Hurried typing?....no change there.

 

Vandal not a plummer......a touch of :sick: :sick: :sick: I feel. He was known as a WORKER and produced pups that WORKED

Best go back to your kingdom now and continue your quest for recognition. The criticism you get is well earned.

Edited June 8, 2010 by stormyboy

[Tesco 28]

18 pages of welsby welsby welsby, why give the parasite the oxygen of publicity

[Big bald beautiful 1,231]

The sooner him and rothwell shudder off this earth the fecking better, the big c is too good for those two.

[DUCKWING 302]

There's no art to fox work had terriers at hunt service and with loners who give me feed back..and as stated before have had a recent report my x stud now a pet lost to ground on foxy loxy. Infact his son tylos was to ground for 2 hours at a fox. The lad dug him out and gave the fox best. Good enough for me the dog though bred from many none earth dogs did what he thought was right...nearly cost the lad his dog mind but thats a different story. And in true irish fashion promtly lined his patterdale with him !!

 

 

 

THERE SPEAKS A PURE BULL SHITTER ............ JUST LIKE THE MAN THAT BRED THE PLUMMERS

 

YRS AGO WE OFFERD TO TAKE PLUMMER OUT FOR A FEW DAYS DIGGING WITH HIS DOGS ..... WHEN HE WENT NORTH WITH NUTTAL ...................

NUTTAL CAME , USED HIS DOGS WHICH WERE GOOD STEADY STUFF .......... AND THE OLD FELLA DUG LIKE A JCB ....... !!!

PLUMMER ? ....... HE SAT IN HIS HOTEL ....... WRITTING

 

PLUMMERS ACTIONS KINDA SPEAKS FOR ITSELF REALLY .......................

 

SOMETHINGS AND TYPES OF ROMMANCERS ................ NEVER CHANGE

 

 

 

DUCKWING

[wirral countryman 2,110]

glen,I could never presume to tell someone as important as you how to run the breed,you have'nt gave one credible answer to any point raised,I don't know what colour the sky is in your strange self obsessed egotistical world you must live in,wrapped up from reality,my dad had words for people like yourself,"a man among women,a child among men"that saying just about cover's you,whoever made you secretary of some phoney club?probably yourself?its a working home every time for my pups,not women and first timer's,the sad part is that you don't see any problem in selling to these people,I look forward to meeting you at a show or country fair so that you can put a face to my name,I shall introduce myself then I won't be an anonymous terrierman anymore as I will of met the famous glen welsby, ha,ha,LOL,weak men like yourself always surround themseves with yes men(or your case women) and kids,if by some chance you bang your head and wake up to reallity with the genuine future of this breed in mind we may hear of decent worker's,remember credibility and renown for the breed should be paramount,not some ego trip by one man,reputations are given by other people, not yourself ,wirralman

[paulk73 151]

surely every terrierman/woman has been a first timer at some stage. and if every one that bred terriers never sold, ( sorry gave) a terrier pup to a first timer, pretty soon terriermen and the working the working terrier as we know it, would be no more. surely every terrierman/woman deserves the chance to prove themself, as does evey dog????????

[EPTR 4]

Glenn if you read back through you will see that I have asked two questions and both seem to have been ignored...?

One was are you saying that Vandal wasn't a Plummer?

And the other was how many foxes have YOU taken in the last season with YOUR terriers?

Thanks

Sorry to have missed this one but not ignored, wondered what bill was on about my sincere apologies, mark.

 

Vandal, was he a Plummer with 28% vampire blood a halfbred jrt.? Plummer.. he and others then for PR purposes was named plummer terriers as were so many but they were not true breeding enough to be called a breed...others bred more true as well...but then when you consider vandals pedigree, how could they have been when the fathers sire was crossbred and the rest of the pedigree mongrelized. Offspirng from vandal sometimes resembled other breeds a sign of homozygosity . AS DID MANY ..AS I SADI BEFORE THEY WERE INGREDIENTS ...Brian himself bred variables by the dozen due to homozygosity I had one .

 

Name me any of Brians dogs ever that have no other breed blood in them for more than 4 generations ..you will find none.

 

His famous vampire halfbred 50% jrt minimum

Omega 37% jrt

One of the last dogs he bred nailer over 28% jrt numerous jrt and fells in just 4 generations .

 

 

As for Fox work none no need foxes dont take my fish.the water must be to cold for them,or snorkels interfere with there senses lol.

 

Would be nice to have some local foxes to play with but to tell you the truth they aren't numerous enough here due to keepers and digging foxes and taken piccys of the reults is a sad macho thing i grew out of.

 

If i encounter one then great (prefer hunting the rat and used to love mink hunting with my pack but thats illegal now !! :sick: )but seeking out earths on a wet sunday morning digging great big holes in the ground to see me terrier working a fox not really my scene anymore as i said before bin there done that in my youth. Prefer others who work there dogs to prove my lines instincts.

 

 

There's no art to fox work had terriers at hunt service and with loners who give me feed back..and as stated before have had a recent report my x stud now a pet lost to ground on foxy loxy. Infact his son tylos was to ground for 2 hours at a fox. The lad dug him out and gave the fox best. Good enough for me the dog though bred from many none earth dogs did what he thought was right...nearly cost the lad his dog mind but thats a different story. And in true irish fashion promtly lined his patterdale with him !!

 

 

you say it like youve gone on to better things, chasing rats anyone can do and as for running about on river banks pretending to be a huntsman blowing a tooter (badly) to keep a few expensive jack russells up togther, pull me other one. mink hunting is an art form, just needs to be done properly.

 

have fun with what your doing but dont drag the true art of the terrier down with your secoundary sports and nonsense ramblings.

 

 

"gone on to better things" not really just prefer to see my terrier use there noses,, this is why i hunt with my local beagle pack. Running about on the river bank my tooter ..oh you are rude ..nope again im not double jointed.

 

Wheres the sceinec and art in watching an instincitive dog do its work ..its natural to chase and worry prey ..art form get out... control of a pack is skillfull but letting a terrier off the lead near a hole stinking of fox and digging to the noise is art ..dont make me laf ..cave men did it ..and as you see the above picture of stig of the dump above we aint gone to far.

 

I have had my moments with my pack some real good long runs at mink and have treed many ...killed a few and lost a few ..whatched upteen youngsters come on and learn and seen some fantastic noses working .

 

Secondary sport lol..IN YOUR VIEW. which we are all forced to belive is only the correct form of terrier work.Some peolpe like a bit of variety wheres the harm in that?

 

 

ok then, staright up offer, i will bring my dogs to hunt your rats and mink, perhpas i will tree a few, retrive a few and loose a few and no doubt will have fun trying. (i did terrier work for a mink pack for several seaosn so know the criac) and you can bring your dogs somwhere on permission and work some foxes. 3 independant judges of work, style and just for you artistic flair.

 

i think we would soon find which is the better sport.

 

incidently i know ALOT of hunt terriermen and only once have i heard of one having a plummer (which he liked), i do not doubt your claims as i dont know them all but in terms of a claim to fame and to add prestigue to your dogs... laughable.

 

ive seen a video of you hunting mink with your pack....... best i leave it there and hope your better on the foxes.

 

Again no thanks why does everyone think im out to want to prove my dogs working ability like i keep saying im happy.... get over it!Vidoe clips from a phone camera of a marking pack ..not what id call a full version of events lol.

[Cleanspade 3,322]

there IS an art to working terriers. although many dont take it far enough to understand that. your knowledge of plummer bloodlines is undeniable. but you show your igmorance on working terriers. many terriers will work instinctivly. we had a fox terrier to ground a few years ago. but that doesnt say they are a good bet for terrierwork. the border terrier and the parson terrier are fast going down the shitter i had a well bred parson that was a very good grafter but he produced very little the reason was his blood was to diluted. you dont need em to work instinkivly you need them to work well and to be able to produce terriers that work well. the instinct was bred in and is easily bred out. i dont do a lot of digging i prefare to bolt foxes. and let me assure you there is an art to that alone breeding workers is difficult enough. as is rearing and entering a youngster building its confidence over a couple of seasons before giving it its head. then you need to find work for the dogs not easy in this day and age i could go on and on.but i would be i have no axe to grind with anyone but some of the things you say boil my pish.

 

saw this lad at a dog show the other day thought i would put it up as it is everything i like in a terrier

 

[EPTR 4]

Your terriers go to any fecker who will pay the money glen thats who and correct me if i'm wrong but i only thought you bred 2-3 litters a year so why the need for weekly adverts and the boasts of waiting lists?.Billy bullshitter i thinks and to be honest any fecker with a plummer bitch will have a waiting list for pups so no big boast really unless your a puppy peddler with a big self centered ego(sound like anyone you know glen? ).

 

 

Stig..

 

2/3 litters most years and this year had one kept a pup and 2 due end of.

Yes they go to peeps that usualy answer my adverts hence the advert every week or soon to be every other week as (i dont need to advertise so much now and £300 is alot)or look at the website or referals which the latter equates to around 75% at the moment.

 

Anyone with a plummer bitch ..you mean anyone can sell plummers well i know a bitch pup thats 6 months old and not sold!..russell marked tho.

[Cleanspade 3,322]

 

have no idea how it works but i'm pretty sure i could make use of it

[EPTR 4]

"ive seen a video of you hunting mink with your pack....... best i leave it there and hope your better on the foxes. "

 

MMMM.....the one with the dog baying the mink in a trap in some shed.........legendary. Sending dogs into a deep slurry pit......fair play to the dogs-foolhardy of the owner-to put it mildly........

Hurried typing?....no change there.

 

Vandal not a plummer......a touch of :sick: :sick: :sick: I feel. He was known as a WORKER and produced pups that WORKED

Best go back to your kingdom now and continue your quest for recognition. The criticism you get is well earned.

 

 

"Vandal not a plummer" ok Bill we will take your word for that

 

Check out the pedigree ... pedigree says it all...PR ONLY MATE PR ONLY BACK THEN.

 

"Known worker" never said he was'nt but don't fool yourslef about all of his offspring (IF THEY COULD WALK THAT IS) like i said some did some did'nt as all terriers do.

 

What you working now Bill? ...besides your fingers LOL

[EPTR 4]

18 pages of welsby welsby welsby, why give the parasite the oxygen of publicity

 

Now you know why im only asking for biweekly adverts in CW !LOL

[stormyboy 1,352]

 

have no idea how it works but i'm pretty sure i could make use of it

 

 

Probably mismarked-no good......