The Sporting Agent 0 Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Just following on from what somone said in another thread; we hunt because...... 1/ its an effective method of pest control 2/ it puts food on our table and the tables of others (hotels, restaurants, butchers, supermarkets, we exports it) 3/ it puts food in the bowls of our dogs 4/ ............we also happen to derive pleasure from being at one with nature, working with nature, an escape from the stresses and strains of daily life 5/ we enjoy working the land, cultivating game and wildlife in a natural environment So if there are legitimate, valid resons why we do what we do, what is it that the antis hate? Surely they think nothing of swating a fly or squashing a spider? They'd think nothing of calling in Pestokill to eradicate rats in their homes? They (mostly) eat meat killed in a slaughter house, bred specifically for the table? ........... ...........heaven forbid, they even watch televiston documentaries with "experts" running after annimals, scaring them, to get a camera shot; jumping on them and wrestling them into submissive possitions so they the viewer can get a good look....all in the name of loving animals and nature! I ask you whats cruel? Something natural, that serves a purpose in be it conservation or food, something that sees animals thrive in an environment thats managed and cared for; or this plastic image of nature, the unashamed shamefullness of food production for the masses which is accepted, the pursute of live animals for NO reason OTHER than televisual entertainment?? I know everyone reading this will know this; I just wanted to get it off my chest!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Coney 3 Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Food for thought ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 The antis hate it because they don't understand it. Plain & simple. They live their lives believing half truths & hearsay, and it won't ever cross their closed little minds to actually go out & learn more about the subjects they claim to know so much about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Missie 1 Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 From my experience a lot of people who are anti hunting don't mind hunting for the pot but as soon as the fwuffy wuffy foxes are involved they don't like it. Also and I think this is a big factor, when hunting is mentioned the picture that immediately comes to mind is a man in red on a horse with hounds. We all know that the hunting ban was more to do with class issues rather than cruelty and many people still make the same assumptions regardless of what type of hunting any of us take part in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bill88 6 Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 From my experience a lot of people who are anti hunting don't mind hunting for the pot but as soon as the fwuffy wuffy foxes are involved they don't like it. Also and I think this is a big factor, when hunting is mentioned the picture that immediately comes to mind is a man in red on a horse with hounds. We all know that the hunting ban was more to do with class issues rather than cruelty and many people still make the same assumptions regardless of what type of hunting any of us take part in. Absolutely spot on missie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dog on Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 (edited) Just following on from what somone said in another thread; we hunt because...... 1/ its an effective method of pest control 2/ it puts food on our table and the tables of others (hotels, restaurants, butchers, supermarkets, we exports it) 3/ it puts food in the bowls of our dogs 4/ ............we also happen to derive pleasure from being at one with nature, working with nature, an escape from the stresses and strains of daily life 5/ we enjoy working the land, cultivating game and wildlife in a natural environment So if there are legitimate, valid resons why we do what we do, what is it that the antis hate? Surely they think nothing of swating a fly or squashing a spider? They'd think nothing of calling in Pestokill to eradicate rats in their homes? They (mostly) eat meat killed in a slaughter house, bred specifically for the table? ........... ...........heaven forbid, they even watch televiston documentaries with "experts" running after annimals, scaring them, to get a camera shot; jumping on them and wrestling them into submissive possitions so they the viewer can get a good look....all in the name of loving animals and nature! I ask you whats cruel? Something natural, that serves a purpose in be it conservation or food, something that sees animals thrive in an environment thats managed and cared for; or this plastic image of nature, the unashamed shamefullness of food production for the masses which is accepted, the pursute of live animals for NO reason OTHER than televisual entertainment?? I know everyone reading this will know this; I just wanted to get it off my chest!! you forgot 6 this food we hunt and eat is not full of cancer causing drugs //at the moment// Edited March 11, 2008 by dog on Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WILF Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 The urge to hunt is built into the DNA of every human being..........its a natural thing, the fact that we dont HAVE to in order to feed ourself wont change that fact. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrea 2 Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 (edited) Just following on from what somone said in another thread; we hunt because...... 1/ its an effective method of pest control 2/ it puts food on our table and the tables of others (hotels, restaurants, butchers, supermarkets, we exports it) 3/ it puts food in the bowls of our dogs 4/ ............we also happen to derive pleasure from being at one with nature, working with nature, an escape from the stresses and strains of daily life 5/ we enjoy working the land, cultivating game and wildlife in a natural environment So if there are legitimate, valid resons why we do what we do, what is it that the antis hate? Surely they think nothing of swating a fly or squashing a spider? They'd think nothing of calling in Pestokill to eradicate rats in their homes? They (mostly) eat meat killed in a slaughter house, bred specifically for the table? ........... ...........heaven forbid, they even watch televiston documentaries with "experts" running after annimals, scaring them, to get a camera shot; jumping on them and wrestling them into submissive possitions so they the viewer can get a good look....all in the name of loving animals and nature! I ask you whats cruel? Something natural, that serves a purpose in be it conservation or food, something that sees animals thrive in an environment thats managed and cared for; or this plastic image of nature, the unashamed shamefullness of food production for the masses which is accepted, the pursute of live animals for NO reason OTHER than televisual entertainment?? I know everyone reading this will know this; I just wanted to get it off my chest!! Edited March 12, 2008 by Andrea Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Sporting Agent 0 Posted March 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 From my experience a lot of people who are anti hunting don't mind hunting for the pot but as soon as the fwuffy wuffy foxes are involved they don't like it. Also and I think this is a big factor, when hunting is mentioned the picture that immediately comes to mind is a man in red on a horse with hounds. We all know that the hunting ban was more to do with class issues rather than cruelty and many people still make the same assumptions regardless of what type of hunting any of us take part in. The whole class war, or the perception of it is certanly one of the larger factors in the antis fight against us; we see it in all walks of life; the traditional "upper classes" are critisized and pushed out in favour of the new upper class - a liberal professional elite, as are traditional working class folk in favour of imigrant families. Now I just think we have a migrant class, a working class in blue collar jobs, a professional elite and the super rich! People from all walks of life take part in field sports; as they do in many other sports. If its a class thing alone then why not fight as stronly against horce racing? Motor racing? etc etc Class in this day and age is an emotive thing; I firmly believe it still exists but not in the same way as it did 20-odd years ago. We now have an upper class composed of liberal professionals earning good money telling us we are all wromg.....maybe these are the very people who grew up wishing for a higher step on the ladder, they got there, but nowthey are there, those that they perceved as beeing above them (the country squires etc) arethe ones they seek to conspire against, the people they presume (wrongly) who hunt, the guys in the pink jackets on horse back? The animal cruelty thing is an add on, granted its one that fits, but its only part of the argument; one which they would never turn on any facet of their lives. TV wildlife documentaries, food on the supermarket shelves etc etc Everyone hunts, from Royals, to the local GP, to the guy in the council house down the road. Class is an excuse and they know it. The truth is there is no valid argument in favour of the anti, but there are bloody plenty in our favour. So why is it that "the word on the street" is that its all cruel? We've got some work to do.........I think its because they dont know the truth, because they have been told its cruel and thats it; thats what it bolis down to..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Missie 1 Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 (edited) Most of the hunting I do is following hounds. I'm not upper class in any way, far from it. Working class through and through. My friends describe me as posh because I hunt. At school I was always the posh kid because we had horses and I grew up on a farm, it couldn't be further from the truth. I was brought up to respect those around me and to speak properly, I don't think that makes me posh! You are right though, it is used as an excuse. Some people see past the class issue and for whatever reason still see hunting as cruel. Someone I know and have had in depth conversations about hunting with is still against hunting even though she agreed with the points I made about it because she still sees the fox as a disney character and doesn't like to see the propaganda that the RSPCA and the like use on the street. Until I spoke to her and my dad gave her some facts about stag hunting she thought that the stag was killed by hounds as foxes are and you would be suprised at the amount of people that think the same. The trouble with a lot of anti's is that they don't wish to gather the facts and make a level decision. They see people on horses with a pack of hounds chasing a fox or someone with a lamp and a lurcher and think of the end result, a dead animal. None of them can concede that we have a respect for our quarry and try to keep suffering to a minimum, the fact that we kill must mean we are all cruel, cold hearted b*****ds! Edited March 11, 2008 by Missie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueCoyote 0 Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 (edited) my stepmom always confused the hell out of me. she loved to shoot the bow and arrow with my dad, would help him out at the hunting club, would cook anything he killed.... but refused to hunt. when she was in school, she said, they dissected pig fetuses and she wasnt able to eat pork for a long time after the fact. and when she told that story my sister did the same thing. dissected a piggy in science class and then refused to eat any kind of pig.. that lasted for about a week though. i've always been into hunting and cleaning up to my elbows... i never got to dissect anything in science class and i hated it.. only dissecting i ever did was while cleaning game. again my sisters and stepmom love to fish.. though they cant put a worm on the hook - i end up doing it for them - but they will help clean the fish.. fish, somehow, arent like furry animals. they dont have feelings apparently. but cleaning fish, unless you put them on ice before cleaning, probably feel every bit of what you're doing to them. But fish arent cute.... deer and bunny rabbits are.. many of these people who claim to be antis dont have a clear picture of the way the world works. even the ones that eat fruit and greens instead of meat. everything is a chain unless you grow it yourself and can control it. but the majority of these antis are city kids. they dont grow anything. they believe that if a label says "Organic" or "Free Range" then its Manna from Heaven... if they only knew the truth!!! Edited March 11, 2008 by BlueCoyote Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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