hancock dogs

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just MO but why is a first cross a gamble, we dont need no roo hounds round hear boy

 

first x a gamble as to how it will throw, eg more to the collie, or more to the greyhound

 

primarily thats what i mean

 

some of our roo dogs ancestry goes back many human generations, not as long as purebreds but... but then thats decades and decades of being bred with performance in mind... hunting performance

 

anyway this topics been done to death a million times, i'll stick with my dogs, you with yours, and everyone else with everyone elses dogs

just wish ppl would look for the working blood

 

oh while im on the subject.. an example would be this, the first x deer/grey now that may look like a staghound, but apart from looks they can be different dogs altogether if you know what i mean, depends on what traits have been selectively bred for

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just MO but why is a first cross a gamble, we dont need no roo hounds round hear boy

 

first x a gamble as to how it will throw, eg more to the collie, or more to the greyhound

 

primarily thats what i mean

 

some of our roo dogs ancestry goes back many human generations, not as long as purebreds but... but then thats decades and decades of being bred with performance in mind... hunting performance

 

anyway this topics been done to death a million times, i'll stick with my dogs, you with yours, and everyone else with everyone elses dogs

just wish ppl would look for the working blood

 

oh while im on the subject.. an example would be this, the first x deer/grey now that may look like a staghound, but apart from looks they can be different dogs altogether if you know what i mean, depends on what traits have been selectively bred for

only a wild guess a first cross would be 50 per cent collie 50 per cent greyhound, you really need to go back to the beginning and learn the very basics, everyone is entitled to there opinion even though yours is not valid

 

I think what Disturbed is trying to say is that some dogs may throw to either the sire or dam's side so you may get one favouring the collie blood or conversely the greyhound blood. It's not always a 50/50 split like you would work out on paper. I remember Plummer writing that if you crossed two breeds together a certain percentage of the pups would be like one parent, some would be a mix and some would look like the other parent. I afraid things are not that simple and it really is a gamble how things turn out. It's not an exact science.

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The last 2 Hancock dogs I have seen both have hip displaysia

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The last 2 Hancock dogs I have seen both have hip displaysia

i heard that as well i think SJM wrote something about it on here

 

Yeah, I had a border first cross dog from him- it was a problem with bone structure, although the symptoms were very similar to hip displaysia. When I spoke to him, Hancock admitted that there had been some similar problems with other puppies.

 

Goes to show it isn' t quite as simple as Greyhounds being a genetically perfect base for his breeding scheme.

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The last 2 Hancock dogs I have seen both have hip displaysia

i heard that as well i think SJM wrote something about it on here

 

Yeah, I had a border first cross dog from him- it was a problem with bone structure, although the symptoms were very similar to hip displaysia. When I spoke to him, Hancock admitted that there had been some similar problems with other puppies.

 

Goes to show it isn' t quite as simple as Greyhounds being a genetically perfect base for his breeding scheme.

 

 

Maybe so, but the vet i use who as had 40years of experience with all breeds. He told me the

Greyhound is the most gentically sound breed you will ever get.

 

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I think what Disturbed is trying to say is that some dogs may throw to either the sire or dam's side so you may get one favouring the collie blood or conversely the greyhound blood. It's not always a 50/50 split like you would work out on paper. I remember Plummer writing that if you crossed two breeds together a certain percentage of the pups would be like one parent, some would be a mix and some would look like the other parent. I afraid things are not that simple and it really is a gamble how things turn out. It's not an exact science.

 

 

yes thats exactly what im saying, as opposed to a tightly line bred bunch of dogs where they all come out very similar, with similar attributes etc etc

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your better with dogs that are line bred i found that out and not to much in them either two or three types is enough for any line ive saw 5 gen of my collie line they breed pretty like 23 to 26 and hard hunters and pacy with good retreiving skills and are not shy wouldnt do for the first time guy buying a dog unless hees trained dogs before etc but they have simliar traits , the best ive saw have been gen of workinng dogs not just a collie to a greyhound tried that and got to much wastage and the second cross the same , so i always breed same to same but if you dont experiment you never find out bred line bred saluk to my collie cross bitch as there were not any colllie crosses genuine proven line bred ones about who caught the lot , she is a good bitch but not as good as either parent in there own feild but a very handy dog , to manydogs into one line is no good sometimes all the best