Who's fault is it ???

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C'mon then lads express you opinions.... 

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[Guest chilli]

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[mouse 282]

the twat who did the most to get huntin banned was worcester mp c##t mike foster.can i also say that by following hounds i have met some of the best people you could wish too meet.there is no class difference and everyone is treated the same.at the end of the day we all love doin the same think. if anyone thinks they can ever stop us or our terriers or our hounds doin [bANNED TEXT] we love then they can get f####d for good.f##k the ban for ever.

[Eggy 0]

I think quite e few 'sections' & actions of society are to blame for the hunting ban but 2 spring to mind:

 

1. Sentimental/unrealastic and hypocritical folk who (not necesseraly townies) who love KFC, McD, Burger King and microwave meals.. etc but are anti-hunting (and completely out of touch were there food actually comes from).

This also includes people who are anti-animal experimentation (medical) but go to the doctors for painkillers, antibiotics etc at the first sign of a cough (where do they think these drugs have been tested on!)

 

2. Labours "spin" machine for giving these thick hypocritical c*nts what they want, but more importantly for them (labour), diverting the attention away from much more pressing issues (eg war in iraq, NHS crisis, education standards etc etc).

 

....It's not a ban.....It's a smoke screen!!!

 

Cheers

 

Eggy

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

Hunting and field sports in general have been under attack for years.Its not a recent thing.We ,as a whole thought itwould never happen but it did.I dont think we were forceful enough in allowing it to happen.The French know how to respond to threats to a way of life and livlihoods,they riot,blockade and disrupt,causing maximum discomfort to government.They are not dictated to by any political party or outsiders.We as a country are too willing to let other people fight our battles and hide our heads in the sand.O.K we went to London,4 times,we shouted we got arrested but this only aided the anti cause.Individuals cannot change goverments mind .5 or 6 thousand people on strike would have been better.Its too late for all that now the bans here but we can sure as hell stick 2 large fingers up to this government and keep hunting as usual :realmad:

[mouse 282]

totally agree mate.when we had the chance we should of caused havoc.blocked roads,towns,etc.the french do it and they get everything they want

[Guest baldie]

We have to shoulder some of the blame ourselves, the alliance had us all for c**ts.

[ratkilla 35]

i agree with baldie as well i guess if we all united and fourt againts the goverment it could of been another story, but who knows

[Guest RookGuy]

I'm sorry to speak out of turn here but if I am following this thread right useing dogs to hunt has been banned across the board in UK? Effective when? Are the millions of dollars (pounds) worth of currently living (and presumeably suddenly useless) hunting dogs grandfatered in? WHat about pointers and retrievers? What's going to happen to all those dogs? How much is it going to cost the government to round up and put down the thousands of stray hunting dogs? What are all those abandoned hunting dogs going to eat between the time that they are turned out and the time tha they are rounded up? They ain't "fluffy", they are trained and expereienced killers! Will they be importing Wolves then to keep a tabs on the Fallow Hunting Dog problem? Wan't there some kind of vote on this or something? I read about a Magna Carter or some other papers in History class. I think you guys have the right to choose your representitves over there too! I know that I have to be missing part of the story!

 

ken

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Its too late for all that now the bans here but we can sure as hell stick 2 large fingers up to this government and keep hunting as usual :realmad:

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Has anyone been done yet..... as in DONE for HUNTING ??

 

Does anyone really think the police give a toss whether we hunt or not...??

 

I hope they don't and we have to keep them on our side (or sort of on our side)..

 

They can't police it, they can't watch us all... there are worse things happening than us going out hunting....

 

keep hunting, keep within the law Lie like f**k if you have to.. go buy some fecking birds of prey... and hunt a full pack .....

 

get an air rifle and aim left at the hare going right... let slip your lurcher..

 

I'll exercise hounds, then I'll take terriers to flush foxes from the ground for guns to shoot, honest Guvnor I'll do it by the book...

 

yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir... full of what :ph34r:

[Eggy 0]

[J Darcy 5,871]

i honestly think that is the CA had made a huge donation to the ;labour party 7 years ago we would have still being doing this...what happened was that the animal rights etc put labour mp's on their staff as "consultants"...and thats where it has all started, because, whether you like it or not, it is a CLASS issue....our enemies hate the very thought of "Toffs" dressed in red, riding around the countryside chasing a "poor" fox with a load of hounds.....

[Guest Dillon]

I don't think it is just a class issue, The people who are out to nail us to the cross want everything banned from ferreting to fishing and shooting, not just hounds/horses.

 

The foxhunting thing is just a start.

 

Personally I think far too many people sat on their arses and didn't to a thing to try and help the cause.

[smallmouth 1]

I’m not sure it was always class, when I became aware of all this during my “Kes†years in the early ‘70s, the private members bills were targeting Coursing…..not Foxhunting. Mind you......apparently at that time some members of the RSPCA hierarchy actually rode to hounds.......

 

As Dillon points out, the fundamentalist fanatics have always had ALL fieldsports in their sights. I remember at comp in my teens, watching a “Programmes for Schools†documentary fronted by John Craven about fieldsports. It covered coursing, fox hunting, pheasant shooting and fishing. It was supposed to promote “classroom discussionâ€, but I remember it being pretty one sided, fishing getting nearly as rough a ride as coursing.

 

If class/money envy was the main force driving the antis, then driven shooting has always had plenty of royal/aristocratic/super rich participants. One of the guns on a shoot I used to beat on had a pair of matched Purdey’s that, (allegedly), cost twice as much as my house!

 

The reason hunting went before fishing or shooting is that it was easier to topple. Why was it? Well envy of the upper class definitely played a part, as did the behaviour of certain “factionsâ€. But I reckon mainly because it was easier to target hunting, simply because furry animals attract more sympathy from uninformed sentimentalists, than do feathery birds or scaly fish........

 

And let’s be realistic, the vast majority have no stake in this either way. If it seems like we’re getting a bit more support at the moment, it’s probably only because it embarrasses the Government.

 

It also seems to me it’s getting so that a large number of folk in this country are so selfish, spiteful and discontent with their own lives, they’d sooner do you a bad turn than a good one, just so long as they don’t have to do it to your face….. These people aren’t anti fieldsports, or anti smoking, or anti 4X4 or whatever, they’re too apathetic to care and lack the bottle to be actively anti anyway. But if they don’t do a particular thing themselves, they’ll take their perverted pleasure from seeing others prevented from enjoying themselves, drinking up the televised tears on the last day of hunting.........pathetic parasites.........

[swanseajack 227]

I’m not sure it was always class, when I became aware of all this during my “Kes†years in the early ‘70s, the private members bills were targeting Coursing…..not Foxhunting.  Mind you......apparently at that time some members of the RSPCA hierarchy actually rode to hounds.......

 

As Dillon points out, the fundamentalist fanatics have always had ALL fieldsports in their sights.  I remember at comp in my teens, watching a “Programmes for Schools†documentary fronted by John Craven about fieldsports.  It covered coursing, fox hunting, pheasant shooting and fishing.  It was supposed to promote “classroom discussionâ€, but I remember it being pretty one sided, fishing getting nearly as rough a ride as coursing. 

 

If class/money envy was the main force driving the antis, then driven shooting has always had plenty of royal/aristocratic/super rich participants.  One of the guns on a shoot I used to beat on had a pair of matched Purdey’s that, (allegedly), cost twice as much as my house!

 

The reason hunting went before fishing or shooting is that it was easier to topple.  Why was it?  Well envy of the upper class definitely played a part, as did the behaviour of certain “factionsâ€.  But I reckon mainly because it was easier to target hunting, simply because furry animals attract more sympathy from uninformed sentimentalists, than do feathery birds or scaly fish........

 

And let’s be realistic, the vast majority have no stake in this either way. If it seems like we’re getting a bit more support at the moment, it’s probably only because it embarrasses the Government.

 

It also seems to me it’s getting so that a large number of folk in this country are so selfish, spiteful and discontent with their own lives, they’d sooner do you a bad turn than a good one, just so long as they don’t have to do it to your face….. These people aren’t anti fieldsports, or anti smoking, or anti 4X4 or whatever, they’re too apathetic to care and lack the bottle to be actively anti anyway.  But if they don’t do a particular thing themselves, they’ll take their perverted pleasure from seeing others prevented from enjoying themselves, drinking up the televised tears on the last day of hunting.........pathetic parasites.........

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good post that mate !