pigeonphill 69 Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 ive raced pigeons most of my adult life and have never killed or tried to kill a bird of prey in my life. im not saying no one has done it but like anything in life you get one or two and the rest get tarred with the same brush. to breed and race a pigeon that then goes onto fly 550 miles in a day gives u a very good feeling much the same way as breeding a good lurcher or terrier does and also a racing pigeon is so different to a street pigeon its like chalk and cheese Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guevara Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 How can you tell the difference when your out shooting them???? My mates said he has shot hundreds of racing pigeons, he used to ring the owners up for a laught aswell if they had the tag thingy. I would hate to shoot someones racing pigeon, kind of like there pet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackfell 16 Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 i am also a racing pigeon man, and although i except that birds of prey are to of the food chain, what most pigeon blokes cant except, is that the rspb are introducing birds of prey into town centres and creating alot of bad feeling, not to mention the song birds that also become prey. i fully acept birds of prey in there natural, enviroment, there is nothing finer in the skys, but it is also heart braking to see a pigeon that you have bred, and may have takens years to train knocked from the skys by a rspb {sponserd} raptor, maybe if they were releasing birds of prey on a rearing field there might be abit more simpathy?????. now some on here might laugh and take the piss lol , but you all talk about game dogs etc,giving there all till the end? lines etc good and bad, well there are game pigeons and there are shite pigeons, the ones we all strive to breed, and we send them to long distance races, were not only do they have to find there way home, but avoid the fecking french shooters ,the hawks and falcons on the coast,and now also perigrines installed on city buildings too. we have bloodlines we try to keep going etc,and there is no greater feeling than breeding a good one,wether that is terrier lurcher or pigeon,to see your bird arrive home after flying 14 hours or more on the wing is a great feeling of pride and awe at how they give there all. racing pigeons saved the lifes of many service men in both world wars and pigeons have also won more dicken medals than any other animal, now i also shoot a get asked to clear alot of feral pigeons which are fed to my ferrets. there will allways be the cases of secondary poisoning, weather thats by pigeon men , gamekeepers or farmers, all of which are regretable, some people are allowed to protect there stock {game} some are not {lambs}. there are two sides to evey story Quote Link to post Share on other sites
proper job 1 Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 My Dad has raced pigeons most of his life, in the last 15 yrs they have had a lot of problems, especially with peregrines in Cornwall. There are 420 breeding pairs in Cornwall that they know of, and the young don't breed in their first season. The problem lies not in what the peregrines kill, they would'nt mind that, but when they strike on a group of pigeons they frighten them that much that they panic and it sends them haywire, many don't return to the loft for days. To many people these pigeons are what racehorses are to the wealthy, I would'nt condone it, but I would probaly feel the same to the peregrines as I do to the feckin sparrowhawks that are killing all the thrushes off round here and the buzzards that are dropping on anything they can, we have more BOP around now than we have had in the last 100yrs, IMO you can group them with the badger, protected but not endangered. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 How can you tell the difference when your out shooting them???? My mates said he has shot hundreds of racing pigeons, he used to ring the owners up for a laught aswell if they had the tag thingy. I would hate to shoot someones racing pigeon, kind of like there pet. Your mate sounds like a prick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pigeonphill 69 Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 How can you tell the difference when your out shooting them???? My mates said he has shot hundreds of racing pigeons, he used to ring the owners up for a laught aswell if they had the tag thingy. I would hate to shoot someones racing pigeon, kind of like there pet. like i say one or two in every walk of life and if you are caught shooting racing pigeons you are breaking the law but thats a big if Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackfell 16 Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 How can you tell the difference when your out shooting them???? My mates said he has shot hundreds of racing pigeons, he used to ring the owners up for a laught aswell if they had the tag thingy. I would hate to shoot someones racing pigeon, kind of like there pet. you would also hate the fine if you are caught smart arse Quote Link to post Share on other sites
proper job 1 Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Blackfell, good post mate, you put it better than I could have done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid 935 Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Next time I shoot a few racing pigeons for the ferrets, I'll have to check they havent got sticky backs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poacher2225 2 Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 my dad has got racing pigeons and he has lost about 10 this week to sparrowhawks thay will take them out in front of you and some of them are just killing them and leaveing them i think hes gitting piss of with them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ratman2 2 Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 How can you tell the difference when your out shooting them???? My mates said he has shot hundreds of racing pigeons, he used to ring the owners up for a laught aswell if they had the tag thingy. I would hate to shoot someones racing pigeon, kind of like there pet. Your mate sounds like a prick. Nah! mate, not 'sounds' like, he is a complete penis, limp one at that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pigeonphill 69 Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Next time I shoot a few racing pigeons for the ferrets, I'll have to check they havent got sticky backs lets hope no one shoots your ferrets then Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackfell 16 Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 just be aware that the new rings on racing pigeons now carry micro chips Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mavphill 0 Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 i am also a racing pigeon man, and although i except that birds of prey are to of the food chain, what most pigeon blokes cant except, is that the rspb are introducing birds of prey into town centres and creating alot of bad feeling, not to mention the song birds that also become prey. i fully acept birds of prey in there natural, enviroment, there is nothing finer in the skys, but it is also heart braking to see a pigeon that you have bred, and may have takens years to train knocked from the skys by a rspb {sponserd} raptor, maybe if they were releasing birds of prey on a rearing field there might be abit more simpathy?????. now some on here might laugh and take the piss lol , but you all talk about game dogs etc,giving there all till the end? lines etc good and bad, well there are game pigeons and there are shite pigeons, the ones we all strive to breed, and we send them to long distance races, were not only do they have to find there way home, but avoid the fecking french shooters ,the hawks and falcons on the coast,and now also perigrines installed on city buildings too. we have bloodlines we try to keep going etc,and there is no greater feeling than breeding a good one,wether that is terrier lurcher or pigeon,to see your bird arrive home after flying 14 hours or more on the wing is a great feeling of pride and awe at how they give there all. racing pigeons saved the lifes of many service men in both world wars and pigeons have also won more dicken medals than any other animal, now i also shoot a get asked to clear alot of feral pigeons which are fed to my ferrets. there will allways be the cases of secondary poisoning, weather thats by pigeon men , gamekeepers or farmers, all of which are regretable, some people are allowed to protect there stock {game} some are not {lambs}. there are two sides to evey story It annoys me so often on forums when people ignore the facts to justify their own views. The RSPB have NOT introduced or "Installed" any birds of prey in towns. Only ospreys and red kites have been introduced in some rural parts of the country and thats because they were nearly bloody extinct. The birds in high buildings in towns are nearly all Peregrines which have increased their numbers since the banning of DDT and other pesticides. another factoe in their success is FOOD more of it means more of them! No food and they start to die out GET THE PICTURE?. Go abroad to towns in the MED or even France and birds of prey in towns are the norm as are bloody pidgeons. finaly, before the victorians killed everthing off that was a threat to their pastimes we had Sea and Golden Eagles in England and Wales.! Rant over! ps if a racing pidgeon gets caught by a peregrine it obviously wasn't fast enough and natural selection kicked in! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mavphill 0 Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 my dad has got racing pigeons and he has lost about 10 this week to sparrowhawks thay will take them out in front of you and some of them are just killing them and leaveing them i think hes gitting piss of with them Flying pigs use a similar method. doh! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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