gsi2000stokie 5 Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 a fox has for the last few weeks bein gettin rather brave in trying its luck in my back garden. a neighbour of mine had a rex rabbit that was her kids and the little red was hungry. 1 distraught neighbour asked me to kill it but i dont know if im in my legal right. can anyone tell me if i can kill it. the council said there is nothing thay can do. a frind has got a gun but cant use that either. poisen is not an option because of the amount of cats that would probably take the bait before the fox does and as for my staffy bein left out well...... theres a little thing called a ban... please can anyone help me other wise i will just .... well lets say it will be the first and only hammer it ever see's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Let's look at your legal options. 1. You cannot poison a fox. 2. You cannot use a firearm in a built up area. 3. You cannot use your dog to catch the fox. 4. You cannot use Renardine to attempt to repel the fox. 5. DEFRA's Snaring Code Of Practice says "Snares must not be set on or near public footpaths, rights of way, near housing and areas regularly used for exercising domestic animals to avoid capturing pets." 6. You can live trap the animal, but then you have to dispatch it on site. This causes problems with number 2. Did I miss anything? Your options are limited. What steps has your neighbour taken to keep the fox out of the garden and away from the rabbits? If there is nothing for it to come back for then it probably won't and revenge seems a little odd. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gsi2000stokie 5 Posted February 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Let's look at your legal options. 1. You cannot poison a fox. 2. You cannot use a firearm in a built up area. 3. You cannot use your dog to catch the fox. 4. You cannot use Renardine to attempt to repel the fox. 5. DEFRA's Snaring Code Of Practice says "Snares must not be set on or near public footpaths, rights of way, near housing and areas regularly used for exercising domestic animals to avoid capturing pets." 6. You can live trap the animal, but then you have to dispatch it on site. This causes problems with number 2. Did I miss anything? Your options are limited. What steps has your neighbour taken to keep the fox out of the garden and away from the rabbits? If there is nothing for it to come back for then it probably won't and revenge seems a little odd. she was just distraught i think. iv got a live trap but like you say its the dispatching it side of things. iv got barbed wire along the top of my fence but it still manages to get in. as for the woman shes had a concrete run built now but its my harris im bothered about. ive put light sensors, alarms up barb, i cant really do anything else but kill it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Seriously look at proofing the damn thing out. An ounce of prevention is worth a ton of cure. Is there any way it can get into your aviary? If so is there anyway you can keep it out? You'll know how it's getting in so what do you reckon? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gsi2000stokie 5 Posted February 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Seriously look at proofing the damn thing out. An ounce of prevention is worth a ton of cure. Is there any way it can get into your aviary? If so is there anyway you can keep it out? You'll know how it's getting in so what do you reckon? its got no hope of getting in. its just my bird she's absolutly mad she trys grabbing it through the mesh. ive put a 3&1/2ft high fibreglass board all the wayround now though. i just dont want to find her with a leg missing or worse. i know what your saying. im just looking at electric fence's on ebay now. i think il give on a blast see how it goes. and cheers for the info. this site is mint for new info Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 I hear ya there. I've worked in pest control for a long time, did a stint in the Stoke On Trent area too! As far as urban fox control goes it's extremely difficult to legally sort out which is why I always try and talk prevention. There are thousands of members on this site. Maybe someone who's had a similar problem can advise you? I certainly don't know everything there is to know about fox control and maybe someone else can offer a more practical solution. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gsi2000stokie 5 Posted February 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 I hear ya there. I've worked in pest control for a long time, did a stint in the Stoke On Trent area too! As far as urban fox control goes it's extremely difficult to legally sort out which is why I always try and talk prevention. There are thousands of members on this site. Maybe someone who's had a similar problem can advise you? I certainly don't know everything there is to know about fox control and maybe someone else can offer a more practical solution. its just a pain in the arse. if it was a rat noone would even batter an eyelid if i shot it with the airrifle or even stamped on it. but no because its bigger and not seen as often weve got to leave them be. british law is a load of s**t. i doubt anyone would be able say anything dofferent to you matey. looks like 175 quid is going out my account tonight. fence, battery, solar charger. its got to be worth it. anyway thanks a lot matey. nice one for ya time Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Yeah. The sad fact is that Britain is a nation of f****d up hypocrites. We eat supermarket meat and complain the second everything with a furry tail is killed, and call it animal cruelty. Keep us posted on your set up. If it works for you it might be something others can use in the future. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Sporting Agent 0 Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 In this case, as Chris J has said prevention is better than cure given your circumstances. These are two "old farmer" techneques; some say they don't work, others swear they do. From my own experiance they certanly helped...... Use tights to make a hanging ball using human hair and hang one on each corner of your avery; the other, piss on the floor outside the avery....or do these things on the perimiter of your fence. Pee in a bottle then pour it outside if you want to be more discreat! Foxes are none too keen on human smells. Might be less efective on urban reds I don't know, and like I said some would poo poo the ideas, but they have been used for years, and as many would swear that they do help control the access of reds.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Not a bad idea that TSA. I've seen it work in rural settings but in an urban environment? Might be worth a shot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 77 Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 I personally would live trap then dispatch at will. Lots of options once the little bugger is contained. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 I personally would live trap then dispatch at will. Lots of options once the little bugger is contained. Live catch yeah, but what then? Where do you relocate it to? Do you have permission to take it to where it can be legally dispatched? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Hundred and Seventy Five Quid ??? Jesus! That seems harsh! And a solar panal? WTF's That all about? Isn't it mains powered, at that price? I have a battery operated electric fence here. Can't remember what it cost me. But I most certainly would remember if it had cost me a Ton! Batteries are about £10 and last about a year, I think? Either way, if I went down to the Creamery tomorrow with £175 to spend, I'd hope to come away with enough Mains Powered kit to stop a whole pack of foxes till they died of old age or electrocution. Mains unit costs nothing noticable to run and can power hundreds of yards of wire. I know because a neighbour powers his fences from my bill and I've touched the damn things! Wish I'd seen this earlier. Might have been able to save ye account such a hammering Chris; What's the craic about Having To despatch on site, mate? Where's that come from? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Chris; What's the craic about Having To despatch on site, mate? Where's that come from? He's in an urban area so shooting is a no no. He says he's got a live trap. Which is good but what next? Has he got somewhere to take it to dispose of the pest? It's all well and good live catching but how do you write the epilogue to this particular vulpine? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 77 Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Well if he cannot figure out how to kill something without useing a gun he should go ask some neighborhood kids for ideas of ; use a sharp stick, knife, bat, rope, exhaust fumes, water, poison, my moms cooking, imagination. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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