Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Ok. F*ck it; I've heard about enough about these " Bouncy " sub sonic rounds. I actually feel I'd feel safer sticking with what I have (.22Hornet), rather than down grading to a Magnum. Even back stops around here stand to be riddled with stones. As I now - think I - understand it, one of my rounds would disintergrate on contact with a briar, let alone a stone. Mag round would more likely Ping and Zing? F*ck that for a game of Cattlemans Friend! So / But; I'm still hanging on to The Pig untill I can afford to chop the bugger in and get me a gun that I can live with. It's just Got To Be a Black Synthetic. Anything else about it, I'll consider as and when. But I'd be looking for the Lightest rifle out there. Twister is, being so old and thin and f*cked, I'm yet to handle a .22 LR in Black which I couldn't sleep with. Conversely, every .222 / .223 I handled made me groan. The only Mag (Remmington) was a dream come true. How much heavier can they suddenly make the next step up, the Hornet? I tried a free handed search of Google and the one thing that's been stuck in my head ever since was the absolutely Rave review I read given to the Browning. The guy was Drooling about the damn thing. And it was much of what I want: Black. Synthetic. .22 Hornet. So there's a referance point to get ye started. Anyone? Thankyou. Quote Link to post
garyw 0 Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 DITCH. good choice in the hornet easy to reload good brass if you dont roll your own then factory ammo is readily available.type in gunners den.com [sorry i cant put up a link im sh**e on the computi]thers a wealth of info there.also savage do a nice little walk round varminter as do cz any way this is a start get going! Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Ok. F*ck it; I've heard about enough about these " Bouncy " sub sonic rounds. I actually feel I'd feel safer sticking with what I have (.22Hornet), rather than down grading to a Magnum. Even back stops around here stand to be riddled with stones. As I now - think I - understand it, one of my rounds would disintergrate on contact with a briar, let alone a stone. Mag round would more likely Ping and Zing? F*ck that for a game of Cattlemans Friend! So / But; I'm still hanging on to The Pig untill I can afford to chop the bugger in and get me a gun that I can live with. It's just Got To Be a Black Synthetic. Anything else about it, I'll consider as and when. But I'd be looking for the Lightest rifle out there. Twister is, being so old and thin and f*cked, I'm yet to handle a .22 LR in Black which I couldn't sleep with. Conversely, every .222 / .223 I handled made me groan. The only Mag (Remmington) was a dream come true. How much heavier can they suddenly make the next step up, the Hornet? I tried a free handed search of Google and the one thing that's been stuck in my head ever since was the absolutely Rave review I read given to the Browning. The guy was Drooling about the damn thing. And it was much of what I want: Black. Synthetic. .22 Hornet. So there's a referance point to get ye started. Anyone? Thankyou. What Hornet have you got now? Sorry if I am being stupid. As for one with a black synthetic stock.. Hmm... CZ are making the American with a plastic stock now but I doubt if it's Hornet. Hornet is pretty rare now anyway, so I think the Browning is your only choice. If you find one, let me know where Quote Link to post
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Just got back from a concentrated trawl of Google, actually. Looking for Savage and CZ in Hornet. No joy Right now I have a NEF Handi. I'm perfectly happy with its single shot, break barrel action, because I've never had a bolt action gun in my life and don't see any need for taking rapid, successive shots at what would, by virtue, have to be a moving target. That's why I never went for a five shot magazined anything. I've never yet failed to kill, or else miss completely, what I fire at. Never needed a fast available second or more round. I'm saying that purely to underline that another single shot would suit me fine. What I'm positively sick to the teeth of with it for is it's tremendous weight and trigger pull. To be brutally honest; I'm getting used to the (8 Ilb ?) pull. It's horrendous on paper. But I find I forget it when I have a live target in my sights. Don't suppose it helps though. But the sheer weight of the damn thing's just depressing me. I really am skin and bone and just carrying the damn thing's a trial. Free standing shot at a barn door would be a joke. When I'm out alone, I try a different method of carrying it about every five minutes, to relieve the strain. Hence my infatuation with the, feather weight, synthetic Remmi Mag I once handled. I'm looking for that in Hornet. Incidentally; Whilst I couldn't find a CZ to my requirements, writing this has reminded me that I really wouldn't want to anyway. A recent tour of close inspection at my local gun shop threw up that CZ Synthetics have a seam finish as rough as a badgers foreskin. I compared a Lot of Laminate rifles and none came even close to the shoddiness of the CZ finish. Awfull, rough, raised joining seam, right from fore end to butt end. Bloody awfull! Oh, and NEF now do this one in Black Synth. Somehow appear to have managed that without shedding a pound in weight and I'll bet the trigger's still a bitch to this day! Get finished here, maybe I'll go Google for that Browning? Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Just got back from a concentrated trawl of Google, actually. Looking for Savage and CZ in Hornet. No joy Right now I have a NEF Handi. I'm perfectly happy with its single shot, break barrel action, because I've never had a bolt action gun in my life and don't see any need for taking rapid, successive shots at what would, by virtue, have to be a moving target. That's why I never went for a five shot magazined anything. I've never yet failed to kill, or else miss completely, what I fire at. Never needed a fast available second or more round. I'm saying that purely to underline that another single shot would suit me fine. What I'm positively sick to the teeth of with it for is it's tremendous weight and trigger pull. To be brutally honest; I'm getting used to the (8 Ilb ?) pull. It's horrendous on paper. But I find I forget it when I have a live target in my sights. Don't suppose it helps though. But the sheer weight of the damn thing's just depressing me. I really am skin and bone and just carrying the damn thing's a trial. Free standing shot at a barn door would be a joke. When I'm out alone, I try a different method of carrying it about every five minutes, to relieve the strain. Hence my infatuation with the, feather weight, synthetic Remmi Mag I once handled. I'm looking for that in Hornet. Incidentally; Whilst I couldn't find a CZ to my requirements, writing this has reminded me that I really wouldn't want to anyway. A recent tour of close inspection at my local gun shop threw up that CZ Laminates have a seam finish as rough as a badgers foreskin. I compared a Lot of Laminate rifles and none came even close to the shoddiness of the CZ finish. Awfull, rough, raised joining seam, right from fore end to butt end. Bloody awfull! Oh, and NEF now do this one in Black Synth. Somehow appear to have managed that without shedding a pound in weight and I'll bet the trigger's still a bitch to this day! Get finished here, maybe I'll go Google for that Browning? You mean laminate or their synthetic for CZ? I am looking at a CZ 527 Varmint Laminate, but nobody has one round here, hence the question Quote Link to post
dicka 1 Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 do ruger not do hornet anymore Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 do ruger not do hornet anymore They do, the 77/22, but they don't do the synthetic stock in a Hornet. Quote Link to post
arcpest 6 Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 (edited) Found this http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/FAProdResult...imagefield.y=10 http://www.remington.com/products/firearms...s/model_799.asp read the features on the remington also found some .22 hornets on guntrader i found 14 http://www.guntrader.co.uk/OldSearch/ Try these for a synthetic stock http://www.staffs-synthetic-stocks.com/index.shtml Edited February 28, 2008 by arcpest Quote Link to post
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 You mean laminate or their synthetic for CZ? I am looking at a CZ 527 Varmint Laminate, but nobody has one round here, hence the question I do apologise! Fact is, I had to scroll through so many Laminates, looking for the Synthetics my tired brain farted there. I've edited my original Post to correct that error. Actually, looking at some Laminates, both in hand and on line, I can see their appeal. Some lovely stuff out there. Just not what I seek in my 'first' gun. And, yeppers, sadly the CZ range of Synthetics Do have a very rough and raised ridge finish to the join underneath. One could imagine feeling it quite harshly as one handled the rifle. Definately no CZ Synthetics for me. do ruger not do hornet anymore I never look at Rugers, mate. Can't remember where or how, but somewhere along the long line of all my research I picked up on a bad vibe about them. Just read too much negative and took the hint. That's stuck and now I wouldn't entertain one. (Sorry, you happy Ruger owners. But there it is) Arcpest; Thanks for all that, mate! Rushing just now. But I'll examine all ye links when I'm back and settled later this evening Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Ok. F*ck it; I've heard about enough about these " Bouncy " sub sonic rounds. I actually feel I'd feel safer sticking with what I have (.22Hornet), rather than down grading to a Magnum. Even back stops around here stand to be riddled with stones. As I now - think I - understand it, one of my rounds would disintergrate on contact with a briar, let alone a stone. Mag round would more likely Ping and Zing? F*ck that for a game of Cattlemans Friend! So / But; I'm still hanging on to The Pig untill I can afford to chop the bugger in and get me a gun that I can live with. It's just Got To Be a Black Synthetic. Anything else about it, I'll consider as and when. But I'd be looking for the Lightest rifle out there. Twister is, being so old and thin and f*cked, I'm yet to handle a .22 LR in Black which I couldn't sleep with. Conversely, every .222 / .223 I handled made me groan. The only Mag (Remmington) was a dream come true. How much heavier can they suddenly make the next step up, the Hornet? I tried a free handed search of Google and the one thing that's been stuck in my head ever since was the absolutely Rave review I read given to the Browning. The guy was Drooling about the damn thing. And it was much of what I want: Black. Synthetic. .22 Hornet. So there's a referance point to get ye started. Anyone? Thankyou. DS The Hornet is a fine round and has many uses, but less and less manufacturers are chambering it and the ammo is getting harder and harder to find and is not cheap! With regard to sub sonics bouncing around..well yes they can..and so can the high velocity in .22LR, this problem exists FAR less in the .22WMR. Quote Link to post
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