Lurchers & Terriers does the CA support you

[andrew mark 21 12]

good post

[Alli 923]

MY ANSWER IS NO, AND AT THE MOMENT EVERY BODY IS BIASED AGAINST TERRIER AND LURCHER SPORT, AND TO BE HONEST I CAN SEE WHY. WITH THE LATEST ACTIVITIES.

[Guest busterdog]

Again i've got to say no, i'm old enough to know they can't go straight for the jugular and there's wheels within wheels but it aways seems like the terriermen of this world are the poor relation that no one wants to know.

 

Credit to Barrie Wade for his tireless work to save the terrier work we have. The only way i can see the day when it all becomes above board is the day they give you a licence to work your terrier. I wouldn't mind jumping through a few hoops to be able to work my terriers without fear of retribution.

[sallie 67]

hmm they have become bureaucratic over the years and i cant really think of anything useful that they have done in general for the country side.

[FightTheBan 1,147]

Not a chance.

They would sail us up the river in a heartbeat to save shooting.

Spineless, the same as every organisation. Scottish gamekeepers, NGO, BASC, CA - try getting them to defend you when you are charged for raptor persecution or digging, hare coursing etc

 

They are just yes men who are afraid to rock the boat because they know shit can turn real sour if they do.

 

We are on our own.

 

FTB

[spazzy paddy 127]

no, but if you ride to hounds thats different matter, if the is a over turn in the hunt ban if will be all in favour or shooting and them who ride to hounds and terrier and lurcher wont change. jmo sp.

[Barrie 1,325]

There’s a mile of difference between what people “think” and what people actually “know”.

 

As someone who’s been actively involved at the sharp end of defending terrierwork for well over 25 years, I DO KNOW that without the Countryside Alliance’s efforts on our behalf terrierwork would have disappeared well before that time and on many occasions since.

 

At a time when certain other fieldsports groups (in order to save their own skins) were more than willing to sacrifice terrierwork, the Countryside Alliance (then the BFSS) was the one organisation which truly stood by us and that’s still the situation today. It was them who were instrumental in forming the NWTF and without their support and efforts I DO KNOW that the NWTF could never have achieved the things that it has.

 

I ALSO KNOW it’s the Countryside Alliance who provide the opportunity for the NWTF to attend major sporting events such as the CLA Game Fair etc in order to promote terrierwork to the general public and other fieldsports groups (something the NWTF could not afford to do on its own)….. they do it willingly and they do it for free. The fact that it doesn’t happen more frequently is simply down to the fact that there are not enough people within our ranks willing to give up their time and get involved in this way.

 

If there are genuine concerns regarding the promotion and defence of terrierwork then in order to find the REAL chinks in our armour we really do need to look much closer to home, rather than as happens all too frequently and attempt to shift the blame elsewhere.

 

There are 4 simple questions everyone who genuinely cares about the future of terrierwork should be asking themselves and others:

1. Am I a member of a working terrier club ?

2. Is that club a member of the NWTF ?

3.

When did my club last send a representative to the NWTF meetings ?

4. When did my club last pay its subscriptions or make a donation to the NWTF ?

 

Some may not be too impressed with the answers, but at least they'll have a far better idea of where any real shortfalls lie.

 

J.M.H.O. - Barrie

Edited January 11, 2012 by Barrie

[Guest busterdog]

I'm starting to see why your the face of the working terrier Barrie lol, i'm not a member but after that post i'll be putting that right. Can i pay into the NWTF by paypal ???, i would like to make a donation for the error of my ways.

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Barrie am old enough to remember the bfss in the 70s having a stand at the Waterloo cup and the setting upof the fighting fund , all ways gave and all ways wore the badge , their make over as the CA has not been PR succes as far as coursing and terrier work is concerned but with current news story's and court cases who can blame the CA for keeping terrier And coursing matters under the radar , I can not ever see the return to the days of pre ban but would urge all terrier men to join terrier clubs affiliated to NWTF as the battle is far from over , Current legislation is not perfect but in the current climes is workerble the CA has gained reputation and has political clout over the next few years this will be tested The CA is far from perfect but without them I assure you we would be In a far worse position. Now Tom prey tell us what the Scottish version has done for the scots

[BIG G wheton machine 1,594]

what i cant understand is why the government even banned hunting listening to bunny huggers n bird molesters over people that actually do it for a living. imo the government should be greatful that we are willing to help them out by controlling the number of pests for free, in this day and age with the recession the way it is how many billion would be saved in compensation payouts to farmers because of tb if they let us target the problem and it wouldnt even cost them a penny. and how many more kids have to be attacked by foxes before they admit they were wrong. so we would actually be contributing to the economy. how many antis can actually say that? tha antis wont agree to any solution cos they think nothing should be killed so theyd raher have a diseased ridden population instead of a healthy one. so the government should just overrule them

[gonetoearth 5,144]

what i cant understand is why the government even banned hunting listening to bunny huggers n bird molesters over people that actually do it for a living. imo the government should be greatful that we are willing to help them out by controlling the number of pests for free, in this day and age with the recession the way it is how many billion would be saved in compensation payouts to farmers because of tb if they let us target the problem and it wouldnt even cost them a penny. and how many more kids have to be attacked by foxes before they admit they were wrong. so we would actually be contributing to the economy. how many antis can actually say that? tha antis wont agree to any solution cos they think nothing should be killed so theyd raher have a diseased ridden population instead of a healthy one. so the government should just overrule them

. POLITICS. Bud simple as that

[lurcher330 2,297]

There’s a mile of difference between what people “think” and what people actually “know”.

 

As someone who’s been actively involved at the sharp end of defending terrierwork for well over 25 years, I DO KNOW that without the Countryside Alliance’s efforts on our behalf terrierwork would have disappeared well before that time and on many occasions since.

 

At a time when certain other fieldsports groups (in order to save their own skins) were more than willing to sacrifice terrierwork, the Countryside Alliance (then the BFSS) was the one organisation which truly stood by us and that’s still the situation today. It was them who were instrumental in forming the NWTF and without their support and efforts I DO KNOW that the NWTF could never have achieved the things that it has.

 

I ALSO KNOW it’s the Countryside Alliance who provide the opportunity for the NWTF to attend major sporting events such as the CLA Game Fair etc in order to promote terrierwork to the general public and other fieldsports groups (something the NWTF could not afford to do on its own)….. they do it willingly and they do it for free. The fact that it doesn’t happen more frequently is simply down to the fact that there are not enough people within our ranks willing to give up their time and get involved in this way.

 

If there are genuine concerns regarding the promotion and defence of terrierwork then in order to find the REAL chinks in our armour we really do need to look much closer to home, rather than as happens all too frequently and attempt to shift the blame elsewhere.

 

There are 4 simple questions everyone who genuinely cares about the future of terrierwork should be asking themselves and others:

1. Am I a member of a working terrier club ?

2. Is that club a member of the NWTF ?

3.

When did my club last send a representative to the NWTF meetings ?

4. When did my club last pay its subscriptions or make a donation to the NWTF ?

 

Some may not be too impressed with the answers, but at least they'll have a far better idea of where any real shortfalls lie.

 

J.M.H.O. - Barrie

 

I am a member of CSA Ireland and even though i dot agree with all their policies they have been a great help to me on certain issues and being a member is handy when looking for permission ,but i think Ireland needs an organisation like the NWTF that will focus soley on terrier issues that can easily be put under threat with he flick of a pen

[Barrie 1,325]

 

I am a member of CSA Ireland and even though i dot agree with all their policies they have been a great help to me on certain issues and being a member is handy when looking for permission ,but i think Ireland needs an organisation like the NWTF that will focus soley on terrier issues that can easily be put under threat with he flick of a pen

 

Personally I'd like to see that happen too and in the past the NWTF has offered any assistance it can in the setting up of such an organistaion. I'm sure there was a thread on it some time back.

 

The problem seems to be a combination of the lack of terrier clubs in Ireland and the ability to find the right people who are willing to get involved, pick up the baton and run with it.

 

I believe there was such an organisation at one time, but for reasons I'm not aware it seemed to die a death.

 

Regards - Barrie

[Barrie 1,325]

Again i've got to say no, i'm old enough to know they can't go straight for the jugular and there's wheels within wheels but it aways seems like the terriermen of this world are the poor relation that no one wants to know.

 

Credit to Barrie Wade for his tireless work to save the terrier work we have. The only way i can see the day when it all becomes above board is the day they give you a licence to work your terrier. I wouldn't mind jumping through a few hoops to be able to work my terriers without fear of retribution.

 

Thanks for those kind words Busterdog but it's all very much a team effort. No one should underestimate or overlook the work done up in Scotland by our Vice Chairman T.P. That man's the original Duracell Bunny and even more so since he's had his pacemaker fitted .

Edited January 11, 2012 by Barrie

[lurcher330 2,297]

I am a member of CSA Ireland and even though i dot agree with all their policies they have been a great help to me on certain issues and being a member is handy when looking for permission ,but i think Ireland needs an organisation like the NWTF that will focus soley on terrier issues that can easily be put under threat with he flick of a pen

 

Personally I'd like to see that happen too and in the past the NWTF has offered any assistance it can in the setting up of such an organistaion. I'm sure there was a thread on it some time back.

 

The problem seems to be a combination of the lack of terrier clubs in Ireland and the ability to find the right people who are willing to get involved, pick up the baton and run with it.

 

I believe there was such an organisation at one time, but for reasons I'm not aware it seemed to die a death.

 

Regards - Barrie

I would be really interested in being involved in it over here but to be honest i wouldn't have the contacts or the now how to get the ball rolling and would like to here from anyone that does