lgray88 4 Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 i was intrested in to doing some incubation of eggs , just wondering is there anywhere you can get fertile pheasent eggs or grouse eggs or any any game bird eggs, and what sort of incubator should i get , i dont want to spend too much either that or a i could build one . if anyone has links to eggs specialist and incubator plans etc please help Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andyfoster10 0 Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 thats a good idea that mate good luck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lgray88 4 Posted February 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 ive decided to make my own now its seems alot cheaper this way so ive bought - Thermostat designed for incubators, 3 computer cooling fans , digital temp and hygrometer, now all i need is my heat source and the insulatiing box and a ac to dc transformer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnipper 6,520 Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 There is thousands of hatching eggs on ebay mate, pretty much anything you can think of but pheasant and partridge wont be available yet, april time they will. Lots of different types of pheasants on there too. I hatched some Shamo out off there last year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lgray88 4 Posted February 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 ah i see , i wasnt thinking about the time of year yeh ebay has alot of eggs im really just after incubatiing them and growing them till there fully grown then letting them free then hopefully they will breed the following year Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest john2007oliver Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 ah i see , i wasnt thinking about the time of year yeh ebay has alot of eggs im really just after incubatiing them and growing them till there fully grown then letting them free then hopefully they will breed the following year Or someone will eat them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lgray88 4 Posted February 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 yeh that was the plan also , i live in a small community so hopefully people will understand im tryin to raise number as we dont have many up heere Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jasper65 6 Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 i was intrested in to doing some incubation of eggs , just wondering is there anywhere you can get fertile pheasent eggs or grouse eggs or any any game bird eggs, and what sort of incubator should i get , i dont want to spend too much either that or a i could build one . if anyone has links to eggs specialist and incubator plans etc please help I have used this company for years for Incubators/Hatchers and Brooders, they also do Kits includeing the Thermostate and element which you can then fit into your own cabinet or box, if you take this route always get one with the Highest wattage as this will retain its heat quicker when you lift the lid/door for any reason.... A little Octagon 20 with a turner will hatch game and foul no probs! I used one for a good few years for Sparrowhawks/Harris's and a few other birds but as I got into it in a bigger way I opted for a Grumbach with two levels to compensate for exra eggs... Do your Homework and work out the optimum Temperatures for different species and go for it! prepare yourself well in advance as you'll soon be in the shit if you have no Brooder/Lamp ready as the chicks start to Hatch... Jasper http://www.interhatch.com/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ghengis 4 Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 try these guys they do some good ones,i have a maino they are brilliant http://www.wheatcroftpoultry.co.uk/SearchR...x?CategoryID=44 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bullterrier Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 i was intrested in to doing some incubation of eggs , just wondering is there anywhere you can get fertile pheasent eggs or grouse eggs or any any game bird eggs, and what sort of incubator should i get , i dont want to spend too much either that or a i could build one . if anyone has links to eggs specialist and incubator plans etc please help I have used this company for years for Incubators/Hatchers and Brooders, they also do Kits includeing the Thermostate and element which you can then fit into your own cabinet or box, if you take this route always get one with the Highest wattage as this will reatin its heat quicker when you lift the lid/door for any reason.... A little Octagon 20 with a turner will hatch game and foul no probs! I used one ofr a good few years for Sparrowhawks/Harris's and a few other birds but as I got into it in a bigger way I opted for a Grumbach with two levels to compensate for exra eggs... Do your Homework and work out the optimum Temperatures for different species and go for it! prepare yourself well in advance as you'll soon be in the shit if you have no Brooder/Lamp ready as the chicks start to Hatch... Jasper http://www.interhatch.com/ good advice tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Big Fish Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 Jasper, does the temprature change from species to species? I always thought it was blood temprature slight variation in humidity levels from varying species though Computer fans and diy etc sounds like a recipe for disaster, but who am i to argue, please let us all know how you get on with your venture, i would be most interested! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lgray88 4 Posted February 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 its all basic electronics not to hard should be ok , yeh ill keep you posted on how i get on , just curious how i mite incorporate my egg turner into my design hey jasper how much did your harris eggs cost Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jasper65 6 Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 Jasper, does the temprature change from species to species? I always thought it was blood temprature slight variation in humidity levels from varying species though Computer fans and diy etc sounds like a recipe for disaster, but who am i to argue, please let us all know how you get on with your venture, i would be most interested! Its a strange one TBF . Most of the Bird Of Prey have a optimum Temperature of 99.5F/37.5C, the Grumbach ticks over nice in the Incubator room just under this around 37.2 - 3 which I feel happy with and the Hatch rate. Temperature/Humidity/Turning all play a big part in the Hatching of eggs! some eggs are also much more temperamental than other's and need to be weighed such as some of the BOP eggs. If I'm weighing eggs you take the birds fresh egg weight and aim somehwere for a loss of around 15% to pip, but 13% suits me fine, basically a egg needs to loose fluid to hatch which is effected my Humidity! too much and the egg won;t lose enough! to little and the egg loses too much and start to fry out, you can end up with chicks dead in a shell in both cases, on top of all this you will need to turn the eggs and keep the Temperature pretty stable, if a egg for one reason or another like say it is thick shelled isn't loseing enough weight, you can put a hole in the airsac end to help it dry out, if it still isn't loseing enough open it up a bit more until it comes back on weight, you can then litteraly just put tape over the hole once the adjustment is made, sounds a bit gory and it looks it sometimes in the Incubator but it works... Personally for Foul or Game I wouldn't worry too much about any of this, I also wouldn'nt be adding any water to a Incubator for these eggs either unless it has a fan like a Microlight , there is enough Humidity in this country and alot of the time too much to worry about adding water. there is still alot of disagreements about Optimum Temperature on some eggs, I was speaking to a keeper a few years back who had his best ever hatch and has kept to it at 99.8F, I have also heard of some more extreme than this but wouldn't recommend it mate, 99.5F/37.5C and you won't be far out on most... At the end of the day the best Incubators are the birds themselves! in the long run they get them off better than Incubators, I like to give all my BOP eggs some Natural Incubation before placing them in a Inc unless like above I take them from fresh, this year I'm trying some Silkie Bantams in Arc's which proved to me when they went Broody last year how well they would sit! I'm having a trial run this year with a few slected eggs to see quite how well they do before finishing them off in the Inc .... Jasper Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jasper65 6 Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 hey jasper how much did your harris eggs cost They didn't cost me anything! my pair layed them .... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lgray88 4 Posted February 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 whats the incubation time on harrises , are they pretty tricky eggs to have success with Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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