frosty 0 Posted February 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 I think for the most part it has been a good discussion. I think both sides of the issue have brought up good points. But there are too many people to think as a show bred terrier as a poodles equivalent in the field mate if u listen to what ur getting told and take it in instead of thinking were all out agaisnt u mate its be tested time and time again for the right result stick to worker to worker and stop fanny about with the brad pitts of the dog world :clapper:as for thinking that ur dogs are poddles no one has said that but if u think killing a possem above ground makes a working terrier u should listen instead of barking up the wrong tree I am not accusing anyone of anything. I am happy with my dogs and I am sure you are happy with yours. Thats all that matters. But no one should claim that show bred terriers cant work thats an accusation. Quote Link to post
stevie g 2005 125 Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 (edited) I think for the most part it has been a good discussion. I think both sides of the issue have brought up good points. But there are too many people to think as a show bred terrier as a poodles equivalent in the field mate if u listen to what ur getting told and take it in instead of thinking were all out agaisnt u mate its be tested time and time again for the right result stick to worker to worker and stop fanny about with the brad pitts of the dog world :clapper:as for thinking that ur dogs are poddles no one has said that but if u think killing a possem above ground makes a working terrier u should listen instead of barking up the wrong tree I am not accusing anyone of anything. I am happy with my dogs and I am sure you are happy with yours. Thats all that matters. But no one should claim that show bred terriers cant work thats an accusation. look u stick to what suits u mate Edited February 22, 2008 by stevie g 2005 Quote Link to post
pickaxe 23 Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Yep, Chazzy is a handsome devil allright............and so good natured as well...............lol Its true to say He’s left a lasting impression with a few judges Quote Link to post
gavmac 0 Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Yep, Chazzy is a handsome devil allright............and so good natured as well...............lol Its true to say He’s left a lasting impression with a few judges I ve heard hes as ugly as his new owner and must have a middle age spread like him now that he retired Quote Link to post
pickaxe 23 Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Yep, Chazzy is a handsome devil allright............and so good natured as well...............lol Its true to say He’s left a lasting impression with a few judges I ve heard hes as ugly as his new owner and must have a middle age spread like him now that he retired NEW OWNER !!!! f*****g news to me a friend is looking after him Quote Link to post
slip 1 Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 I think for the most part it has been a good discussion. I think both sides of the issue have brought up good points. But there are too many people to think as a show bred terrier as a poodles equivalent in the field mate if u listen to what ur getting told and take it in instead of thinking were all out agaisnt u mate its be tested time and time again for the right result stick to worker to worker and stop fanny about with the brad pitts of the dog world :clapper:as for thinking that ur dogs are poddles no one has said that but if u think killing a possem above ground makes a working terrier u should listen instead of barking up the wrong tree I am not accusing anyone of anything. I am happy with my dogs and I am sure you are happy with yours. Thats all that matters. But no one should claim that show bred terriers cant work thats an accusation. look u stick to what suits u mate look lads all im saying is that this dog got a chance other then the fact that this terrier was not wanted would never got a look in!! dont work show lines was a pet and it worked all i did was agree with a chap that they are a hard terrier thats all by f**k did that escalate wire fox terrier is in the make up of them patterdales working today Quote Link to post
Guest rio Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 I dont really care if they work, as long as they look pretty, thats the main thing for me! wilf do you know fo any pritty dogs for sale mate im fed up of my none spanable working types not winning the shows that black pup u have there rio is a real looker yes but he wont win shows he has a bad mouth With all of these instances of a show terrier couldnt work I bet you could come up with working bred dogs that couldnt perform either. yes mate ive had plenty but id do the right thing with it not breed from it Quote Link to post
gavmac 0 Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Yep, Chazzy is a handsome devil allright............and so good natured as well...............lol Its true to say He’s left a lasting impression with a few judges I ve heard hes as ugly as his new owner and must have a middle age spread like him now that he retired NEW OWNER !!!! f*****g news to me a friend is looking after him Just a figure of speach . ...Tubbies looking after him Quote Link to post
stevie g 2005 125 Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Yep, Chazzy is a handsome devil allright............and so good natured as well...............lol Its true to say He’s left a lasting impression with a few judges good money to be got out of them looker nowadays pickake Quote Link to post
pickaxe 23 Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 Yep, Chazzy is a handsome devil allright............and so good natured as well...............lol Its true to say He’s left a lasting impression with a few judges good money to be got out of them looker nowadays pickake to right there is no trusting my pretty's to a faty to keep safe, there's money to be made, the old boy does have some ped lakie in him ....way back, but he only eat half of it lol Quote Link to post
bluecollar 104 Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 Well,there's NO JOBS available for 99.999999% of any breeds,are there? IF YOU DONT HAVE A JOB FOR A DOG DONT GET A WORKING BREED AND THE SELLING OF WORKING DOGS TO NON-WORKING PEOPLE IS ALWAYS THE DOWNFALL OF ANY REAL WORKING DOG. THERE ARE PLENTY OF SHITY LAP DOG BREEDS OUT THERE. Quote Link to post
wee.gunga 4 Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 [... hi boys ive got 2 show lakelands 1 of them is 10 inches no joke and f*****g hopeless i mean hopeless and its breeding is second to none just no interested .the other is diffrent story hes a black and tan out of ch celtic gold hes going the right way just now had a look ect nows the score just 1 year old al eat my heart if it doesnt go to ground its a good marker aswell. we will wait and see ive got a bet on way the boys they said a pure bred wont go to ground .its all in the up bringing boys i was very much a lurcher man for years and did very well with them i must admit .my moto is put the best to the best and hope for the best ive seen great lurchers mated together and pups all shit no joke and then ive seen shit to shit and getting great stock all down to luck boys i think.i think people are trying to get smart looking dogs and good workers some times it doesnt work that way.usually find the ugly ones are the best workers .as long as your happy what your dogs doing them thats all that matters. good luck boys Quote Link to post
rob.i 26 Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 Theres no doubt that there will be some show dogs that would make the grade as good workers but the chances of finding one are few and far between .Its difficult enough to find a good un out of working stock let alone show dogs .Given the chance would you buy from working or show stock if you wanted a worker? its a no brainer really ,and then theres the money side of things if you found a worker who was shit hot would you pay show dog prices for it is it wrong or right if you could afford it supply and demand is in every game Quote Link to post
stanley 5 Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 its all about playing the odds isnt it? just a big numbers game. I for one am not a rich man , and would bet the safe money on the working blood rather than the show blood. And when you stop to think of it, the working blood is alot cheaper than the show blood too now isnt it. so buy aworker for two reasons. A improved overall odds on getting a workier from a worker, and B working blood is cheaper than show blood. absoloutly spot on,why take the chance theres enough failures passed from pillar to post already Quote Link to post
waidmann 105 Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 as i have said in other threads previously. the aim of a responsible breeder should be to produce top class working dogs who are true to the breeding standard(whether pedigree or not).if the kennel club thinks to change the standard in a direction that does not suit work then stick to the "old standard" but breed healthy strong dogs( teeth,testis,eyes,feet, etc etc). the mentality of "it doesn't matter what they look like as long as they work" is the true destruction of any breed. faults as above cannot be positive input to working stock can they? if so why do the breeding standards( from original line men) not state the dog should be 13-15 inches tts,athleticly built without being over muscelled, should have weak joints,ears that can be easily torn,testis that should become cancerous within 5 years,strong teeth that should sit in an undershot/overshot jaw and be as blind as a bat with cataracts" silly i know,thats why i do not understand this mentality. the fault lies with the kennel clubs for not asking that dogs be "tested" before breeding( this is the case for most "working dogs" in germany). not a moral sermon just a point of view fellas. atb waidmann Quote Link to post
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