Muslim terrorists

[gnasher16 30,024]

There,s a simple answer to all of you that dont want "foreigners", muslims, or whatever , here.....get off your arses and become a councillor, then an mp, and do something about it democratically, because due to the apathy of the "great white british man" it wont happen any other way. Its gonna be a little difficult for some, a basic mastery of the English language helps, and being a little further on, evolutionary wise, than the missing link is a pre requisite too. Basically, put up, or shut up.BLEATING RACIST SHITE ALL OVER THIS FORUM, SERVES ONE PURPOSE ONLY.....IT TELLS THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD, THAT ALL HUNTING FOLK ARE RACISTS.

 

 

The trouble is mate,not all of us are intellectually gifted enough,have the know how or even the willingness to go to the extremes you are talking...does that mean we shouldnt have an opinion ? or if we do we should keep it to ourself ?.....so a man who has no basic mastery of the english language is not entitled to his opinion ?....put up or shup up for some of us can be no more than who we vote for or standing up for our beliefs in a conversation whether it be in our local pub or an internet forum....hunting folk/ racist ? i dont see the link personally...

andrea i will let you have the last word as an argument with someone who apparently has the same views as myself seems a waste of energy

[Guest baldie]

There,s a simple answer to all of you that dont want "foreigners", muslims, or whatever , here.....get off your arses and become a councillor, then an mp, and do something about it democratically, because due to the apathy of the "great white british man" it wont happen any other way. Its gonna be a little difficult for some, a basic mastery of the English language helps, and being a little further on, evolutionary wise, than the missing link is a pre requisite too. Basically, put up, or shut up.BLEATING RACIST SHITE ALL OVER THIS FORUM, SERVES ONE PURPOSE ONLY.....IT TELLS THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD, THAT ALL HUNTING FOLK ARE RACISTS.

 

 

The trouble is mate,not all of us are intellectually gifted enough,have the know how or even the willingness to go to the extremes you are talking...does that mean we shouldnt have an opinion ? or if we do we should keep it to ourself ?.....so a man who has no basic mastery of the english language is not entitled to his opinion ?....put up or shup up for some of us can be no more than who we vote for or standing up for our beliefs in a conversation whether it be in our local pub or an internet forum....hunting folk/ racist ? i dont see the link personally...

andrea i will let you have the last word as an argument with someone who apparently has the same views as myself seems a waste of energy

 

My point was, that several members here, and i mention no names, are out and racists, and can no better string a sentence together, in the queens english, than a freshly arrived immigrant from anywhere else. They bang on about , their rights as "white brits" when quite frankly, they are a damn disgrace, to any civilised nation. I think the best description would be a "knuckledragger".

I,ve always held the belief, that if i have an opinion on something, that i dont like, i get off my arse and do something about it, or i shut the f**k up, because its the same old story about voting.If you dont vote, you have no right whatsoever to complain about the people in power....none at all.

This is a hunting site, ok this section is for general talk, but all the great unwashed will see when they come here, is the weekly tirade of racism, that blights this site, and they go away, and think we are all the same. Do you think the ultra right wing forums have posts on hunting or ferretting in their general talk section?

Racism is a sick disease, that my grandfathers fought against, only when men of different, creeds, colour, and races, learn to forget it, will we have peace.

[harrycatcat 31]

May I quote Amanda Platell on page 17 of todays Daily Mail Saturday 16th February 2008.

 

"The convictions of five young muslim men for downloading jihadi propoganda were quashed this week after one of their solicitors said they had only been found guilty of "thought crimes". I am no legal expert, but surely there's little difference between these "thought crimes" and those committed by men caught down loading paedophile material. However, the law states that watching images of a child being raped is a crime punishable by imprisonment because the man is inciting an offence, whereas looking at pictures of hardline jihadi atrocities is not.

The excuse, as used by at least one of the freed men, that he had downloaded the material for research purposes didn't save actor Chris Langham from rightly being jailed for ten months for accessing internet images of child abuse."

 

 

Well at least one person thought the same as me thats why I asked the question. No malace meant, no racism

just an observation.

[Halfinch 51]

There,s a simple answer to all of you that dont want "foreigners", muslims, or whatever , here.....get off your arses and become a councillor, then an mp, and do something about it democratically, because due to the apathy of the "great white british man" it wont happen any other way. Its gonna be a little difficult for some, a basic mastery of the English language helps, and being a little further on, evolutionary wise, than the missing link is a pre requisite too. Basically, put up, or shut up.BLEATING RACIST SHITE ALL OVER THIS FORUM, SERVES ONE PURPOSE ONLY.....IT TELLS THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD, THAT ALL HUNTING FOLK ARE RACISTS.

 

 

The trouble is mate,not all of us are intellectually gifted enough,have the know how or even the willingness to go to the extremes you are talking...does that mean we shouldnt have an opinion ? or if we do we should keep it to ourself ?.....so a man who has no basic mastery of the english language is not entitled to his opinion ?....put up or shup up for some of us can be no more than who we vote for or standing up for our beliefs in a conversation whether it be in our local pub or an internet forum....hunting folk/ racist ? i dont see the link personally...

andrea i will let you have the last word as an argument with someone who apparently has the same views as myself seems a waste of energy

 

My point was, that several members here, and i mention no names, are out and racists, and can no better string a sentence together, in the queens english, than a freshly arrived immigrant from anywhere else. They bang on about , their rights as "white brits" when quite frankly, they are a damn disgrace, to any civilised nation. I think the best description would be a "knuckledragger".

I,ve always held the belief, that if i have an opinion on something, that i dont like, i get off my arse and do something about it, or i shut the f**k up, because its the same old story about voting.If you dont vote, you have no right whatsoever to complain about the people in power....none at all.

This is a hunting site, ok this section is for general talk, but all the great unwashed will see when they come here, is the weekly tirade of racism, that blights this site, and they go away, and think we are all the same. Do you think the ultra right wing forums have posts on hunting or ferretting in their general talk section?

Racism is a sick disease, that my grandfathers fought against, only when men of different, creeds, colour, and races, learn to forget it, will we have peace.

 

The one thing that I've never understood about people that are "non raciest" is their insistence that to be a raciest is akin to being a rapist or peadophile, well before you all want to lynch ME as a raciest, i'm NOT, but if people decide not to like a Black, White, Yellow, Red, Blue or any other colour person for whatever reason they feel the need to, why, in a suposedly FREE country are they vilified for having an opinion that doesn't meet with someone elses opinion?

Seems to me that if you take away someones opinions, you take away a persons individuality, an opinion can only be right or wrong in someone elses opinion

And i'm not talking about extreamist's here, that is a tottaly different kettle of fish.

[Guest oneredtrim]

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Edited February 20, 2008 by oneredtrim

[mistwalker 0]

Now, as some of you may know, my wife's Bulgarian, so the last thing I am is a racist.

So, in the interests of a peaceful future for us all here in the UK, I've put together a wee 'Misty's handy-tips for race-relations' guide for you lot, the first of which is below. Let me know what you think and I can get the whole series posted to you as soon as they arrive from the printers.

 

1) As you casually wander down the street, you may see one of our Jihad-loving cousins coming towards you. This is not something you should be worried about, a recent survey by the RSPCA (Raghead Spotters, Persecutors and Chasers Association) tells us that they're more scared of you than you are of them - remember: You have the upperhand

2) As a gesture of goodwill and friendship, it is common in many cultures to mix behaviour from different beliefs to show unity. Therefore, upon sighting our ethnic cousin, you should

A) Fix and maintain eye contact (a show that you are strong, yet showing respect) - Like so:

 

B ) Drop to your knees (as if praying to Allah - to show you sympathise) - like so:

 

and finally...

C) Give him a wink... Just like this:

 

 

That goes for you too, girls:

 

[harrycatcat 31]

Now, as some of you may know, my wife's Bulgarian, so the last thing I am is a racist.

So, in the interests of a peaceful future for us all here in the UK, I've put together a wee 'Misty's handy-tips for race-relations' guide for you lot, the first of which is below. Let me know what you think and I can get the whole series posted to you as soon as they arrive from the printers.

 

1) As you casually wander down the street, you may see one of our Jihad-loving cousins coming towards you. This is not something you should be worried about, a recent survey by the RSPCA (Raghead Spotters, Persecutors and Chasers Association) tells us that they're more scared of you than you are of them - remember: You have the upperhand

2) As a gesture of goodwill and friendship, it is common in many cultures to mix behaviour from different beliefs to show unity. Therefore, upon sighting our ethnic cousin, you should

A) Fix and maintain eye contact (a show that you are strong, yet showing respect) - Like so:

 

B ) Drop to your knees (as if praying to Allah - to show you sympathise) - like so:

 

and finally...

C) Give him a wink... Just like this:

 

 

That goes for you too, girls:

 

 

I took this as it was meant as a joke

[Guest little lurcher]

personally i dont give a shit about who lives where, but what i do object to is being forced to drop our own traditions for a fear of upsetting a minority!!! i have a severely disabled child whom goes to a special needs school, where there are max 3 lack kids and a couple of other races , but no more than 10 , you try telling a kid who has NO short term memory that christmas things and easter things cant be done because of another religon being upset!!! sorry thats wrong , and then to do special sections for this very tiny set of other races makes a mockery!!! if they can have it then do it but do ours too!!

 

i live in an area of high immigrant numbers and you see many of them going aout their daily usiness trying to speak english etc , as good as gold, others WE are not allowed in their shops!!! ritish people are under rascist attack every single day due to the pc world gone mad!! take the MOBO awards , music of black origin , if we done a MOWO awards we would be condemned at every angle!!! thats hardly equality is it?

 

no one wants to see innocents caught up in various conflicts or live in fear so why allow it , cause its all under the guise of racism!!!!

 

if some of out lazy dole queue scum got off the backsides then there wouldnt e the jobs for the so called migrnts??? we have to take some responsiblity for what we have chosen not to do!!

 

i have recently been pleasantly surprised at a political party , may i suggest you seekk some of their views , the campaign for independant britain , not rascist or extreme in any way ut see their reseach on our governments our scams!!! makes shocking reading , see where our money is really going

[mistwalker 0]

Now, as some of you may know, my wife's Bulgarian, so the last thing I am is a racist.

So, in the interests of a peaceful future for us all here in the UK, I've put together a wee 'Misty's handy-tips for race-relations' guide for you lot, the first of which is below. Let me know what you think and I can get the whole series posted to you as soon as they arrive from the printers.

 

1) As you casually wander down the street, you may see one of our Jihad-loving cousins coming towards you. This is not something you should be worried about, a recent survey by the RSPCA (Raghead Spotters, Persecutors and Chasers Association) tells us that they're more scared of you than you are of them - remember: You have the upperhand

2) As a gesture of goodwill and friendship, it is common in many cultures to mix behaviour from different beliefs to show unity. Therefore, upon sighting our ethnic cousin, you should

A) Fix and maintain eye contact (a show that you are strong, yet showing respect) - Like so:

 

B ) Drop to your knees (as if praying to Allah - to show you sympathise) - like so:

 

and finally...

C) Give him a wink... Just like this:

 

 

That goes for you too, girls:

 

 

I took this as it was meant as a joke

 

 

Oh, aye. Obviously

[poacherjim 0]

So In your view, a foreigner is someone who wasn’t born in and doesn’t belong to Britain. My grandfather (a foreigner, he was Irish), fought for this country and served in the military all his life. He was prepared to die for a country, and the British was prepared to allow him to die for a country, you now say he had no right to live in?

He, along with thousands of foreigners, fought and died for YOUR country and you now say you owe them NOTHING. You ungrateful git.

During the 19 and early 20 century, the British treated Irish immigrants in the same disgusting manner as they now treat Muslims, With prejudice, with discrimination, with suspicion and above all, with unjust cruelty.

your grandfather fought for this country and you should be proud of that fact but, the fact is if a war broke out between britain and a muslim country WHO would the muslims fight for US OR THEM i think we all know the answer to that they would leave in a flash,fight for them and if we won they would be back with their grubby little hands out wanting benefits

 

 

Of course I’m proud of my grandfather, as i am everyone who fight’s for our freedom, whether British or not. But i think you’ve missed the point, It has been said that foreigners have no right to be in this country and the British owe them nothing. My point is, how can we differentiate between who we accept as British and who we don’t? Everyone who comes outside of Britain is not British and therefore is foreigners. These are the same people who have, and still are fighting and dying for this country. You cannot predict who will and will not fight for this country, any more than you can predict who is and isn’t a terrorist.

 

I have some very close friends who are from a country near India/Pakistan, they are as dark skined as they come, they eat curry like there is no tomorrow, they speak a language that is not English YET they have worn (for generations) and do wear without question the Royal crest on their uniform of Queen Elizabeth the Second and work under the Union flag; they lay their lives on the line for us, each one of us, and many many of them have died for us.

 

Where are they from? Nepal.

 

What are they? Gurkas

 

And what do they get in return? A fiver a week and a load of

the difference is the ghurkas CANNOT GET A PASSPORT FOR THIS COUNTRY

[Guest baldie]

There,s a simple answer to all of you that dont want "foreigners", muslims, or whatever , here.....get off your arses and become a councillor, then an mp, and do something about it democratically, because due to the apathy of the "great white british man" it wont happen any other way. Its gonna be a little difficult for some, a basic mastery of the English language helps, and being a little further on, evolutionary wise, than the missing link is a pre requisite too. Basically, put up, or shut up.BLEATING RACIST SHITE ALL OVER THIS FORUM, SERVES ONE PURPOSE ONLY.....IT TELLS THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD, THAT ALL HUNTING FOLK ARE RACISTS.

 

 

The trouble is mate,not all of us are intellectually gifted enough,have the know how or even the willingness to go to the extremes you are talking...does that mean we shouldnt have an opinion ? or if we do we should keep it to ourself ?.....so a man who has no basic mastery of the english language is not entitled to his opinion ?....put up or shup up for some of us can be no more than who we vote for or standing up for our beliefs in a conversation whether it be in our local pub or an internet forum....hunting folk/ racist ? i dont see the link personally...

andrea i will let you have the last word as an argument with someone who apparently has the same views as myself seems a waste of energy

 

My point was, that several members here, and i mention no names, are out and racists, and can no better string a sentence together, in the queens english, than a freshly arrived immigrant from anywhere else. They bang on about , their rights as "white brits" when quite frankly, they are a damn disgrace, to any civilised nation. I think the best description would be a "knuckledragger".

I,ve always held the belief, that if i have an opinion on something, that i dont like, i get off my arse and do something about it, or i shut the f**k up, because its the same old story about voting.If you dont vote, you have no right whatsoever to complain about the people in power....none at all.

This is a hunting site, ok this section is for general talk, but all the great unwashed will see when they come here, is the weekly tirade of racism, that blights this site, and they go away, and think we are all the same. Do you think the ultra right wing forums have posts on hunting or ferretting in their general talk section?

Racism is a sick disease, that my grandfathers fought against, only when men of different, creeds, colour, and races, learn to forget it, will we have peace.

 

The one thing that I've never understood about people that are "non raciest" is their insistence that to be a raciest is akin to being a rapist or peadophile, well before you all want to lynch ME as a raciest, i'm NOT, but if people decide not to like a Black, White, Yellow, Red, Blue or any other colour person for whatever reason they feel the need to, why, in a suposedly FREE country are they vilified for having an opinion that doesn't meet with someone elses opinion?

Seems to me that if you take away someones opinions, you take away a persons individuality, an opinion can only be right or wrong in someone elses opinion

And i'm not talking about extreamist's here, that is a tottaly different kettle of fish.

 

So following that analogy....if someone thinks its ok to hate someone because of their colour, that is indeed their freedom of choice, and that must be respected in the interests of freedom. Explain how a paedophile or a rapist, who obviously thinks its ok to do what they do, has a right to their opinion then?

For what its worth, i dont equate one with the other personally.

I think we all know its wrong to assault children, and rape women, just as i believe the vast majority of this world believe it wrong to hate another human being, purely because of their skin colour. There is no reasonable argument, or cause for this hatred, just fear of something, or someone different to ourselves, who maybe lives their life differently to what we do.

Whether we like it or not, this country, and its population have irrevocably changed. It will NEVER be like it was in the 50,s when the population was white, those days are gone, i cant remember them anyway, and doubt many here can.As i see it, we have three choices...we can either get along with other races peacefully, or we can fight, and look what good that did at the early part of last century, or we can do like all the people coming here, and emigrate somewhere else, and become immigrants ourselves.

[poacherjim 0]

THE ONLY PEOPLE TO BLAME ARE THE MAMBY PAMBY HAND WRINGING DO GOODERS, a lot of comments on here have been about racism, as if colour was an issue. colour has nothing to do with it, if you look at 2 asians in the street can you tell which one is muslim?? ask a black seikh what he thinks of muslims and you will probably find that he thinks the same as many people on here. they are just as sick of them as we are, i was talking to one a couple of months ago and he said he was off to australia and when i asked why he said he was sick of f*****g pakis, i laughed and said to him "what are you" it turns out he was indian (well i didnt know! ) he told me that his parents came over when he was a kid so does not know anything else but he said his parents are disgusted at the way this country has gone they feel that if you are allowed to enter another country you should abide by their rules or basically f**K off. after the 9/11 bombing he has been abused in the street and when he goes on a plane he is looked on with suspicion but he accepts this and says he can understand why.what does annoy him is when blacks play the race card when stopped. There are many colours, creeds, religions, and backgrounds in this country but there is ony ONE that are trying to take over, this land in 20 years time will look like a field that a swarm of locusts have just left it will be a barren landscape with only british people in it all the rest would have F****D OFF TO PASTURES NEW

[Guest WILF]

LOL...............

 

[Andrea 2]

Andrea, any chance you could expand on your remark with regard to the minority of terrorists being scum

 

 

I have decided to paste my original post in it’s entirety, simply because, to quote one line of a post gives a false impression to my meaning. When i first wrote the post below, we where still discussing Muslims and terrorists, it had not moved on to general racisms

 

Quote "Well, many people have wanted a complete ban on guns, why? Because a few people use them irresponsibly. Gun crime and the spread of gun related deaths, reported mainly through the media, have stirred up this mass moral panic amongst the public. The public, ignorant to the truths behind gun crime and only having the media to feed them sensational story’s, are campaigning to have all gun’s banned.

Many responsible gun owners, hunter’s included, have quiet rightfully argued against this stupidity.

Guns should not be banned because of the minority of trouble makers, most gun owners would never go around shooting innocent people on the street.

 

How does this relate to terrorists, well very much in the same way?

We have a minority of terrorists, not all are Muslim and very few Muslims agree or condone the actions of terrorists. Should we allow the media to brainwash us all into thinking all Muslims are terrorist and therefore should be deported. Well no, because that’s no different than saying all gun owners are irresponsible and therefore all guns should be banned.

Yes, the minority of terrorists are scum and we need to work hard to stop these evil animals from infesting our country, but we should not be throwing the whole barrel of apples away because one or two happens to be bad, anymore than we should allow guns to be banned because a few people use them to kill or hurt people" End of quote

 

 

 

I think it speaks for itself. The amount of terrorists, compared to the amount of people in the world, is a relative small number, some are of a different ethnic group, and some are white. Obviously, anyone who blow’s up, injures and kill innocent men, women and children is, in my opinion, scum. So yes, all Terrorists, which make up a very small proportion of the people (and a minority of people from Muslim backgrounds), are scum for the acts they commit towards the innocent.That does not mean that a whole ethnic group should be tarred with the same brush, and have racist comment thrown at them

[Andrea 2]

That is the last i intend to say on the subject since every one of you have already decided who is responsible for your problems. You will not acknowledge your own failing, but would rather use other ethnic groups as your scapegoats. It’s unlikely i will ever change your attitudes, mainly because most of you, do not want your views challenged or changed.

If you want to bleat on about white supremacy and right winged propaganda, then fine, that’s your call. When it falls in on you, don’t say you wasn’t warned.