lurchergrrl 1,441 Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 This topic seems to come up in different threads at least twice a week ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrycatcat 31 Posted February 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 This topic seems to come up in different threads at least twice a week ... This was not supposed a racist thread or slagging off muslims my question was what is the difference in down loading child porn or down loading jihadi terrorist material. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,024 Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 (edited) This topic seems to come up in different threads at least twice a week ... This was not supposed a racist thread or slagging off muslims my question was what is the difference in down loading child porn or down loading jihadi terrorist material. Couldnt agree more,and personally twice a week i sit and read without saying anything,but as we all know,just occasionally its hard not to let our feelings out and as anyone knows who occasionally dares to have a little pride in there country....the dogooders come down like a ton of bricks,not the muslims,not the africans not the east europeans...but 9 times out of 10 its the dogooding part of the english community. As for the child porn/jihad buiseness....both as sick and twisted as each other and our hands are tied as to correct punishment for both also....we must not offend either of them remember,they are both human beings ...........its just another example of how pathetically weak our society has become. Edited February 15, 2008 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
new2hunting 0 Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 well i say judge the man/woman on the character not race or religion Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOPPER 1,809 Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 i havent got a problem with them all i ask is I HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AS THEM and not treated like some scum in my own country equality i think they call it , why should they claim this and that and get away with it and the likes of me would be hung drawn and quartered . this country SUCKs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 (edited) Can anyone explain to me the difference between muslims down loading extremist jihadi propaganda material and getting let off and some one down loading child porn. In my opinion they should both be shot ! but the muslim gets off ? What is that all about ? is this country going down the pan or what ? Yeah. Propaganda is a bullshit load of lies made up to insight people into thinking that those lies are true. Child porn involves the systematic rape of children. Big f*****g difference. I agree that them getting off is wrong but don't equate the two. Edited February 15, 2008 by ChrisJones Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrea 2 Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 I think it’s rather strange you didn’t realise your question would provoke racist comments Harrycatcat. Gnasher 16, are you seriously saying your ok with people as long as you have something in common with them? Those who share the same values and traditions as you? I have news for you, people are individuals, it makes no difference what country they come from or what colour their skin is, the facts are, even some British people don’t share your values or traditions, nor would they have any common ground with you. It seems you are against what you don’t understand. Of course you and I are angry to see, what appear to be terrorists getting away with their ghastly, cowardly acts and obviously there’s a massive problem when terrorist sympathisers are able to walk our country unmolested, and in some cases, claiming housing, benefits and healthcare. But the problem doesn’t lie with the Muslim community, it lies with the idiotic government we, as a country, have voted into power. You talk about do-gooders who sympathies with, or even support immigration, i think your wrong. I think there's very few people who are happy about having massive influxes of immigrant landing in their country. However, it’s the system that's allowed it that should be criticised, not the people who have taken advantage of it. Obviously, if any of us lived in a country that allows its people to starve, to be killed and to live in extreme poverty, then we too would leave that country if we could. And for those who come here for an easy life, benefits, housing and healthcare, that’s the fault of our government for allowing that to happen too. Harrycatcat, you ask â€is there a difference between downloading child porn or downloading jihad terrorist materialâ€. Of course there’s a difference, Muslim terrorist believe, sometimes through brainwashing, that they are freedom fighters, fighting for their beliefs and religion. Some have had this message forced on them from early childhood, in some cases, by their own family members. Many people throughout time have killed and been killed for their religion. We know it’s wrong. The problem with terrorist activity lie’s far deeper than the terrorists, and to crack it, you need to get to, and destroy the roots of extremism. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 I know it's slightly off thread..... The reason I think that a large pecentage of the population are getting pissed off with imagrants, arn't pissed off with the foreigners themselves, it's this bloody stupid 'multiculture' idea that we're having forced upon us. It's one thing to welcome folks that want to intergrate into our society, and better themselves as well as making us all richer as a nation, as most of the Indians & Pakistanis did when they came here after the partition of India in the 60's. Thease folk, after years of british rule, moved here because they actually felt British, and made a hell of a contribution to the country that we can still see today. I know it's a cliche, but they revolutionised, through hard work things like, convinience shops, opening hours etc. But when we're told these days, that people from other countries, can come here & set up their own towns within our cities, carry on doing what they take for granted in their homeland, with scant regard for our traditions & customs, then we're told by the spineless government that it's something we have to live with, it part of 'multicultural' Britain, then we start to get pissed off. The Goverment is supposed to be elected to serve us, we're ment to be a free country. What a load of Bol**ks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Nobody votes so we get the government we deserve. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrycatcat 31 Posted February 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Can anyone explain to me the difference between muslims down loading extremist jihadi propaganda material and getting let off and some one down loading child porn. In my opinion they should both be shot ! but the muslim gets off ? What is that all about ? is this country going down the pan or what ? Yeah. Propaganda is a bullshit load of lies made up to insight people into thinking that those lies are true. Child porn involves the systematic rape of children. Big f*****g difference. I agree that them getting off is wrong but don't equate the two. I am equating the two because in my opinion getting information on blowing up loads of people and maiming innocent people is very bad and should be punished wether its muslims or any other religion/race. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 I disagree. I think there is a world of difference between someone telling lies and someone raping children. These people told lies. They didn't blow anything up. If they did then they're no better. Until they do they're bullshitters. If you think people should be shot for bullshitting then you'd wipe out % of this forums membership. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrycatcat 31 Posted February 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 I never said anything about raping children so dont exagerate. I said down loading material. Just like terrorists down load material. As I said they are both as bad in my opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poacherjim 0 Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 So In your view, a foreigner is someone who wasn’t born in and doesn’t belong to Britain. My grandfather (a foreigner, he was Irish), fought for this country and served in the military all his life. He was prepared to die for a country, and the British was prepared to allow him to die for a country, you now say he had no right to live in? He, along with thousands of foreigners, fought and died for YOUR country and you now say you owe them NOTHING. You ungrateful git. During the 19 and early 20 century, the British treated Irish immigrants in the same disgusting manner as they now treat Muslims, With prejudice, with discrimination, with suspicion and above all, with unjust cruelty. your grandfather fought for this country and you should be proud of that fact but, the fact is if a war broke out between britain and a muslim country WHO would the muslims fight for US OR THEM i think we all know the answer to that they would leave in a flash,fight for them and if we won they would be back with their grubby little hands out wanting benefits Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 (edited) I never said anything about raping children so dont exagerate.I said down loading material. Just like terrorists down load material. As I said they are both as bad in my opinion. Okay lets try and keep it nice and simple. Propaganda is the spreading of ideas, information, or rumour for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person. It's used to make one side look better than the other. Just look at the hunting debate for the last 30 and you'll see who can do propaganda and who can't. Just because someone asks you to kill for Allah doesn't mean you will. Child porn. Downloaded or not involves the rape of children. The people that record it, rape children. The people that distribute make money from raped children and those that download get off on raping children. It is nothing even remotely similar to islamic propaganda. In your opinion you think they're both just as bad. Fine. Your call, your opinion. In my opinion equating the two is massive disservice to the kids that are abused, while you make some f****d up analogy on what constitutes a shit hole of a country. Jailing someone for having an opinion is ridiculous. It doesn't make anyone safer and it's certainly not going to destroy the very fabric of society. This forum is a epicentre of pro-hunting propaganda, both good and bad, does this force anyone to go out and commit an offence? Does it f**k. People who are going to commit terrorist atrocities, in the name of Allah, will do so no matter what someone prints. There is a massive reason why islamic fundamentalists want to attack us and our society. It begins with I and ends in Q and it's nothing to do with these wankers writing naughty words. Edited February 15, 2008 by ChrisJones Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrycatcat 31 Posted February 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 I never said anything about raping children so dont exagerate.I said down loading material. Just like terrorists down load material. As I said they are both as bad in my opinion. Okay lets try and keep it nice and simple. Propaganda is the spreading of ideas, information, or rumour for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person. It's used to make one side look better than the other. Just look at the hunting debate for the last 30 and you'll see who can do propaganda and who can't. Just because someone asks you to kill for Allah doesn't mean you will. Child porn. Downloaded or not involves the rape of children. The people that record it, rape children. The people that distribute make money from raped children and those that download get off on raping children. It is nothing even remotely similar to islamic propaganda. In your opinion you think they're both just as bad. Fine. Your call, your opinion. In my opinion equating the two is massive disservice to the kids that are abused, while you make some f****d up analogy on what constitutes a shit hole of a country. Jailing someone for having an opinion is ridiculous. It doesn't make anyone safer and it's certainly not going to destroy the very fabric of society. This forum is a epicentre of pro-hunting propaganda, both good and bad, does this force anyone to go out and commit an offence? Does it f**k. People who are going to commit terrorist atrocities, in the name of Allah, will do so no matter what someone prints. There is a massive reason why islamic fundamentalists want to attack us and our society. It begins with I and ends in Q and it's nothing to do with these wankers writing naughty words. OK throw the soap box away we will have to agree to disagree, end of story. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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