The Sporting Agent 0 Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Who says the Irish are stupid? They set bombs and walk away, Muslims set bombs and blow thenselves up! But seriously, regarldess of religion, race, colour......one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter..... I'm not condoning terrorism in any way whatsoever, but one thing is for certain; its much bigger than any of us. Kicking muslims out of the country is not the answer and neither is tarring all muslims or Islamists with the same brush. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
speedlamper 0 Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Who says the Irish are stupid? They set bombs and walk away, Muslims set bombs and blow thenselves up! But seriously, regarldess of religion, race, colour......one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter..... I'm not condoning terrorism in any way whatsoever, but one thing is for certain; its much bigger than any of us. Kicking muslims out of the country is not the answer and neither is tarring all muslims or Islamists with the same brush. i guess you didnt hear about the ira trying to crash the goodyear airship into big ben then Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 160 Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Who says the Irish are stupid? They set bombs and walk away, Muslims set bombs and blow thenselves up! But seriously, regarldess of religion, race, colour......one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter..... I'm not condoning terrorism in any way whatsoever, but one thing is for certain; its much bigger than any of us. Kicking muslims out of the country is not the answer and neither is tarring all muslims or Islamists with the same brush. Perhaps while you are enjoying your curry/pizza/kebab, after drinking some lager/vodka/brandy you could think about some of the good things that immigrants have done for us, instead of just labelling a large portion of them as terrorists. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ratman2 2 Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Who says the Irish are stupid? They set bombs and walk away, Muslims set bombs and blow thenselves up! But seriously, regarldess of religion, race, colour......one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter..... I'm not condoning terrorism in any way whatsoever, but one thing is for certain; its much bigger than any of us. Kicking muslims out of the country is not the answer and neither is tarring all muslims or Islamists with the same brush. : Perhaps while you are enjoying your curry/pizza/kebab, after drinking some lager/vodka/brandy you could think about some of the good things that immigrants have done for us, instead of just labelling a large portion of them as terrorists. Not a bloody foursome, please, will this self appreciation society never end. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Sporting Agent 0 Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Who says the Irish are stupid? They set bombs and walk away, Muslims set bombs and blow thenselves up! But seriously, regarldess of religion, race, colour......one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter..... I'm not condoning terrorism in any way whatsoever, but one thing is for certain; its much bigger than any of us. Kicking muslims out of the country is not the answer and neither is tarring all muslims or Islamists with the same brush. Perhaps while you are enjoying your curry/pizza/kebab, after drinking some lager/vodka/brandy you could think about some of the good things that immigrants have done for us, instead of just labelling a large portion of them as terrorists. Exactly. Like I said, I'm not condoning terrorism in any way, and have personally been caught up in the "War on Terror", but baning anyone with a sun tan and beard is not the answer. In each generation there are new international terrorism threats and targets; it wasn't all that long ago that Britain was heading the way in forcing its beliefs on the rest of the world; right or wrong its a fact. Islam is an ancient religion, of honour and pride; the extreemists are not acting acording to Islam or on behalf of the masses, in the same way that Christianity has its extremists, so do other religions. While religion is a defining factor in the world there will always be extreme factions of all religions doing evil in the name of "God". Many religions are very diferant; from what we see as normal, Islam is one of them. People in the Middle East do not want to be turned int little Americas, and we will never and should never asume that it is our right to "convert" them Modern technology and skills are making easier, bigger and worse........ Live and let live. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
outshooting 0 Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 i was actually thinking of converting to islam but after some of the comments on here i dont think i'll bother Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Sporting Agent 0 Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Who says the Irish are stupid? They set bombs and walk away, Muslims set bombs and blow thenselves up! But seriously, regarldess of religion, race, colour......one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter..... I'm not condoning terrorism in any way whatsoever, but one thing is for certain; its much bigger than any of us. Kicking muslims out of the country is not the answer and neither is tarring all muslims or Islamists with the same brush. : Perhaps while you are enjoying your curry/pizza/kebab, after drinking some lager/vodka/brandy you could think about some of the good things that immigrants have done for us, instead of just labelling a large portion of them as terrorists. Not a bloody foursome, please, will this self appreciation society never end. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest davieboy Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 All a bit silly if you ask me this fighting malarky over some stuff has anyone ever seen Jerry Adams and Bin Laden in the same room as each other...........just a thought. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrea 2 Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Well, many people have wanted a complete ban on guns, why? Because a few people use them irresponsibly. Gun crime and the spread of gun related deaths, reported mainly through the media, have stirred up this mass moral panic amongst the public. The public, ignorant to the truths behind gun crime and only having the media to feed them sensational story’s, are campaigning to have all gun’s banned. Many responsible gun owners, hunter’s included, have quiet rightfully argued against this stupidity. Guns should not be banned because of the minority of trouble makers, most gun owners would never go around shooting innocent people on the street. How does this relate to terrorists, well very much in the same way? We have a minority of terrorists, not all are Muslim and very few Muslims agree or condone the actions of terrorists. Should we allow the media to brainwash us all into thinking all Muslims are terrorist and therefore should be deported. Well no, because that’s no different than saying all gun owners are irresponsible and therefore all guns should be banned. Yes, the minority of terrorists are scum and we need to work hard to stop these evil animals from infesting our country, but we should not be throwing the whole barrel of apples away because one or two happens to be bad,anymore than we should allow guns to be banned because a few people use them to kill or hurt people. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Missie 1 Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Well said Andrea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,163 Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Reading through these posts it amazes me how people seem to be so hung up on the rights and wrongs of foreigners living in our country....personally i would never differentiate between a hardworking good member of society foreigner and a terrorist foreigner...they all should not be here and what we forget in this brainwashed society is that we owe them NOTHING !....ok our government allows our nation to be a country who will take any old shit from around the world,feed,clothe,house and educate them....to the point now where decent english people are actually willing to sit and choose just who and what shit we are willing to put up with.....what the fxxk !!....they are all foreigners and we owe them NOTHING ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bigredbusa Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 but baning anyone with a sun tan and beard is not the answer. you leave the dude alone ....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrea 2 Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 So In your view, a foreigner is someone who wasn’t born in and doesn’t belong to Britain. My grandfather (a foreigner, he was Irish), fought for this country and served in the military all his life. He was prepared to die for a country, and the British was prepared to allow him to die for a country, you now say he had no right to live in? He, along with thousands of foreigners, fought and died for YOUR country and you now say you owe them NOTHING. You ungrateful git. During the 19 and early 20 century, the British treated Irish immigrants in the same disgusting manner as they now treat Muslims, With prejudice, with discrimination, with suspicion and above all, with unjust cruelty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
speedlamper 0 Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 So In your view, a foreigner is someone who wasn’t born in and doesn’t belong to Britain. My grandfather (a foreigner, he was Irish), fought for this country and served in the military all his life. He was prepared to die for a country, and the British was prepared to allow him to die for a country, you now say he had no right to live in? He, along with thousands of foreigners, fought and died for YOUR country and you now say you owe them NOTHING. You ungrateful git. During the 19 and early 20 century, the British treated Irish immigrants in the same disgusting manner as they now treat Muslims, With prejudice, with discrimination, with suspicion and above all, with unjust cruelty. i believe everyone of this planet is eqeul, it doesnt matter where you were born where your ancestors are from or anything, everyone should have the chance of a better life even if that means living in another country, how many people on here have said theyed love to go live in canada or australia because there sick of the way this country heading? what the differance between that and a say a muslim coming over here for a better standard of living? the terrorist attacks of 9/11 and 7/7 were a load of bollocks, the uk and us goverments were to blame for them not some cave dwelling radical islamist and anyone who still thinks muslims were to blame for them really needs to wake up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,163 Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 (edited) So In your view, a foreigner is someone who wasn’t born in and doesn’t belong to Britain. My grandfather (a foreigner, he was Irish), fought for this country and served in the military all his life. He was prepared to die for a country, and the British was prepared to allow him to die for a country, you now say he had no right to live in? He, along with thousands of foreigners, fought and died for YOUR country and you now say you owe them NOTHING. You ungrateful git. During the 19 and early 20 century, the British treated Irish immigrants in the same disgusting manner as they now treat Muslims, With prejudice, with discrimination, with suspicion and above all, with unjust cruelty. Take the term " foreigners " to mean whatever you want it to mean....from a personal point im happy to share with any man woman or child who shares the same basic morals in life as me,has the same values and traditions as me and respects my country that he wishes to live in....after all ,being english shouldnt what i want come before somebody who is not english ?..why would i want to share my life and community with a man who has absolutely nothing in common with me? who i cannot communicate with,who does not respect what i respect as an englishman....and serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever other than to even up statistics that i dont want or believe in anyway....personally ive never met an irishman i couldnt communicate with or who had the same basic morals so if it came to sitting having a pint and a pie with an irishman or a muslim who would i choose to sit with...trouble is we dont have that choice do we..too much is done these days to bend over backwards not to offend these poor oppressed foreigners,to make up for all the social injustices they have suffered at our hands....we are all too frightened to say what we feel through fear of being called a racist...well if somebody wants to call me a racist for standing up for my own country IN my own country then i couldnt care less...these days if you dare to show pride in your country you are likely to be termed a racist....which is why for all these dogooders it always comes back to a history lesson ? like we have got to make up for all the wrong doings of our past.....so basically,when you want to welcome all the worlds shit into the country we are " trend setting " and being " futuristic " in our multicultural welcoming ways....yet when it comes to defending against racism we get these " old school history lessons " about how appalingly we have treated people...you cant have it both ways...this is england and english people should have a say in what they want and not have to be FORCED into this multicultural bullshit that we are supposed to sit mutely and accept for fear of possibly having a racist view !... foreigners must love the freedom they get when they come here,its just a shame true english people have their hands tied and their mouth gagged about what they think ! Edited February 15, 2008 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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