Knifebar 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 The Rivers of Blood speech was a controversial speech about immigration and anti-discrimination legislation in the United Kingdom made on 20 April 1968 by Enoch Powell, the Conservative Member of Parliament for Wolverhampton South West. Powell claimed to have spoken with a constituent of his, a middle-aged working man, a few weeks earlier. Powell said that man told him: "If I had the money to go, I wouldn't stay in this country... I have three children, all of them been through grammar school and two of them married now, with family. I shan't be satisfied till I have seen them all settled overseas." The man finished by saying to Powell: "In this country in 15 or 20 years time the black man will have the whip hand over the white man." Powell went on: "Here is a decent, ordinary fellow-Englishman, who in broad daylight in my own town says to me, his Member of Parliament, that the country will not be worth living in for his children. I simply do not have the right to shrug my shoulders and think about something else. What he is saying, thousands and hundreds of thousands are saying and thinking – not throughout Great Britain, perhaps, but in the areas that are already undergoing the total transformation to which there is no parallel in a thousand years of English history." Powell quoted the Registrar-General's statistics that in 15 to 20 years, there would be 3.5 million immigrants and their descendants in Britain. Powell estimated that by the year 2000, the figure would be 5 to 7 million, around one tenth of the population. Powell claimed that it was urgent to stop "further inflow, and by promoting the maximum outflow" because by 1985, the majority of the immigrant community would have been born in Britain. Powell asserted that this was, "part of the official policy of the Conservative Party." He went on to say: "We must be mad, literally mad, as a nation to be permitting the annual inflow of some 50,000 dependants, who are for the most part the material of the future growth of the immigrant descended population. It is like watching a nation busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre. So insane are we that we actually permit unmarried persons to immigrate for the purpose of founding a family with spouses and fiancées whom they have never seen." "This does not mean that the immigrant and his descendants should be elevated into a privileged or special class or that the citizen should be denied his right to discriminate in the management of his own affairs between one fellow-citizen and another or that he should be subjected to an inquisition as to his reasons and motives for behaving in one lawful manner rather than another." "For reasons which they could not comprehend, and in pursuance of a decision by default, on which they were never consulted, they found themselves made strangers in their own country. They found their wives unable to obtain hospital beds in childbirth, their children unable to obtain school places, their homes and neighbourhoods changed beyond recognition, their plans and prospects for the future defeated; at work they found that employers hesitated to apply to the immigrant worker the standards of discipline and competence required of the native-born worker; they began to hear, as time went by, more and more voices which told them that they were now the unwanted. On top of this, they now learn that a one-way privilege is to be established by Act of Parliament; a law which cannot, and is not intended to, operate to protect them or redress their grievances, is to be enacted to give the stranger, the disgruntled and the agent provocateur the power to pillory them for their private actions." "She is becoming afraid to go out. Windows are broken. She finds excreta pushed through her letterbox. When she goes to the shops, she is followed by children, charming, wide-grinning piccaninnies. They cannot speak English, but one word they know. 'Racialist', they chant. When the new Race Relations bill is passed, this woman is convinced she will go to prison. And is she so wrong? I begin to wonder." "As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding. Like the Roman, I seem to see 'the River Tiber foaming with much blood'. That tragic and intractable phenomenon which we watch with horror on the other side of the Atlantic but which there is interwoven with the history and existence of the States itself, is coming upon us here by our own volition and our own neglect. Indeed, it has all but come. In numerical terms, it will be of American proportions long before the end of the century. Only resolute and urgent action will avert it even now. Whether there will be the public will to demand and obtain that action, I do not know. All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal." FAMILILAR I BET! Knifebar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tallyho 181 Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 very familar, he got it right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cedar 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 He was a man before his time, this country now needs politicians with back bones and forget the political corectness crap, they need to act now to restore this nation to a glimmer of what this country was. We are becoming a nation of Call Centres and Shops! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 I guess, in a back handed sort of way, it's 'good' that he lived to see the living proof of his every word. He's been completely vindicated for every word he said back then. And now that he's seen how dead f*cking right he was, he's got out of it. RIP. Edited to add; I think his epitaph should be: " What Did I F*cking Tell Ye??? " Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Sporting Agent 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 I put that speach in another thread on here......... He got lambasted for the contents of the Rivers of Blood speach, made over 40 years ago. I wonder however, how much of what he said in that speach has either bourn true or are sentiments, feelings and examples we would agree with 40 years on? Quite a lot? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 " Quite a lot " ? The mans only error was that he spoke of " Black Men " as African / West Indians. While in fact they've been superceeded and far out weighed by Muslims and East Europeans. But he still lived to see the changes coming. Everyone's up in arms about it all now, sure. But both lots were making their presence felt in uk a decade and more ago. So he certainly saw himself vindicated. And, with his foresight and understanding, he'd have been well aware of where things would be by now, and what'll come next. I expect he thought, " F*ck 'em then. They never listened. I'm off! Leave 'em to it. " And off he went. And now look ..... Funny thing is, I never knew shit about the guy or his infamous speech till someone Posted a link to it, on here, some time ago. (Maybe that was you? What ever) I read it then for the first time and could barely believe what I was reading. Maybe, at the time, I too would've considered it racist and inflamatory? Now? Man was spot on and only a complete c*** would try to deny that to themselves. My opinion, anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TRUE SAXON 108 Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Its about time some of these MPs admit he was right and get this country back on track. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
masmiffy 82 Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 The Romans had the right idea even before good old Enoch! Build straight roads that way no corners for the shops thay all own! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Knifebar 0 Posted February 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 The Romans had the right idea even before good old Enoch!Build straight roads that way no corners for the shops thay all own! It's hard to believe they did'nt listen. I'm sure in the corridors of power they're reminded all the time of Enoch Powell's legacy. He was no fool, A Professor at the Age of 25, A Brigadier, an education the length of your arm and lots of Publications, Noted for his Orital Speechs. He was before his time on doubt, the nation did'nt understand him! Knifebar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ratman2 2 Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 The Romans had the right idea even before good old Enoch!Build straight roads that way no corners for the shops thay all own! It's hard to believe they did'nt listen. I'm sure in the corridors of power they're reminded all the time of Enoch Powell's legacy. He was no fool, A Professor at the Age of 25, A Brigadier, an education the length of your arm and lots of Publications, Noted for his Orital Speechs. He was before his time on doubt, the nation did'nt understand him! Knifebar No mate, the nation understood him and endorsed what he said, the limp wristed politicians chose not to, for brownie points. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
COMPO 54 Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 (edited) Rivers of Blood.........anyone been down south london during the night! He was right on quiet a few issues and sadly immigration has brought and caused a lot of problems.......its not a black and white issue....its a miss-match and hodge podge of cultural and moral values that is causing most of the problems and this is aggravated by th eliberal elite lefties that run this country at the moment! edited to add Romans.......they brought the first black people to these shores, the Roman legions were basically men from whatever country they took over , very few were small dark skinned Italian types, most were tall and strong europeans and north africans! Edited February 13, 2008 by COMPO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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