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Why didn't the go to the old bill when it happened?I don't think they even went to the old bill for this to come out.Weren't it a C4 journalist who just by chance was contacted by these different women?Everyone knew what his reputation was back then,He hardly hiding.They willingly got themselves into situations with a self confessed serial shagger and now 20years or whatever it is later are after a tidy payday

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Karma for what he did to Andrew Sachs and his granddaughter. No sympathy here…… Cheers.

I think every comment so far is a very fair shout, can’t argue with any of that. However, I still think to myself “At what point in the last 25 years did these women decide they had been raped ?”

I've always had him down as the Jimmy Saville type , long before anything ever came to light. He's just a wrong'un .

  On 04/04/2025 at 16:04, WILF said:

I think Saville and animals like him are a case apart, they were f***ing about with kids and kids coming out years later is understandable……grown women isn’t 

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A fair point but maybe the key word is ‘understandable’. Like I said, I don’t understand why someone who’d been raped wouldn’t go straight to the law and demand justice.., yet it happens. Al Fayed might have dozens of victims, there was a Chinese student recently may also have dozens. They can’t all be gold digging surely, so why don’t they come forward sooner?

I also think it’s difficult for men to comprehend the effect rape has on a woman. They are wired different to us, and much more sensitive and delicate in their make up. My sister in law worked in a rape centre and some of the stuff she told me about the ordeals some of these poor women went through, and the lasting effect it has on almost every aspect of life, is truly horrendous. Life destroying PTSD stuff. 

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  On 04/04/2025 at 17:06, downsouth said:

Why didn't the go to the old bill when it happened?I don't think they even went to the old bill for this to come out.Weren't it a C4 journalist who just by chance was contacted by these different women?Everyone knew what his reputation was back then,He hardly hiding.They willingly got themselves into situations with a self confessed serial shagger and now 20years or whatever it is later are after a tidy payday

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All young men are 'serial shaggers'. Young men look for sex, women tend to look for relationships.

The culture was different back in the day. The police would routinely dismiss rape allegations. It was a case of the complainant's word against his. The same went for any  allegations against the police abusing their police powers and giving you a hiding.  Teachers and the like were virtually untouchable when they abused children , especially in religious schools. It wasn't even  considered a serious crime. The churches conspire to cover it up to this day.

As far a rape is concerned, the culture has changed and now there's an emphasis on securing a conviction because 'it was decided' not enough men are being found guilty of rape. This situation is equally unfair,because the police  feel pressured to increase the numbers of men being prosecuted. The police are capable of bending rules to satisfy targets. So  innocent men are more likely to end up in  court. 

It's a minefield. But not for me, I'll stick to alcohol abuse only.

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  On 04/04/2025 at 17:26, pesky1972 said:

there was a Chinese student recently may also have dozens. 

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I think cops suspect him of 50 as they have media of him raping unconscious ladies.Reminds me of the Indonesian student who was found guilty of 130+ male rapes in Manchester,police recon he could really be guilty of 200+ male rapes.

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  On 04/04/2025 at 19:09, mackem said:

I think cops suspect him of 50 as they have media of him raping unconscious ladies.Reminds me of the Indonesian student who was found guilty of 130+ male rapes in Manchester,police recon he could really be guilty of 200+ male rapes.

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Indonesian you say? He drugged his victims didn't he?  Yes, it's a bit hazy, but it's all coming back to me now.

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  On 04/04/2025 at 19:18, jukel123 said:

Indonesian you say? He drugged his victims didn't he?  Yes, it's a bit hazy, but it's all coming back to me now.

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Yup drugged and raped 130+ blokes over a 2 year period in Manchester,police think it might have been as many as 200+ blokes.

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  On 04/04/2025 at 19:23, mackem said:

Yup drugged and raped 130+ blokes over a 2 year period in Manchester,police think it might have been as many as 200+ blokes.

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I wouldn't have suspected anything, but my ring piece felt like I'd applied Deep Heat to it after I'd kipped at that bloke's place.

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  On 04/04/2025 at 19:28, mackem said:

Was that IWW?

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Got it in one. IWW is a little brown fella with a penchant for frying pans, stool samples, flashing at innocent cats and male rape. He writes his posts from Strangeways with  a secret phone hidden up his arsehole.

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  On 04/04/2025 at 19:36, jukel123 said:

Got it in one. IWW is a little brown fella with a penchant for frying pans, stool samples, flashing at innocent cats and male rape. He writes his posts from Strangeways with  a secret phone hidden up his arsehole.

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Commonly known as his wizard’s sleeve :laugh: 

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  On 04/04/2025 at 19:18, jukel123 said:

Indonesian you say? He drugged his victims didn't he?  Yes, it's a bit hazy, but it's all coming back to me now.

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I wouldn’t worry, Manchester United have been f***ing 60,000 blokes every Saturday for the last 10 years ! lol 

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