Working terriers.

[eastcoast 4,272]

7 minutes ago, gunter said:

Mind blowing 

I posted this on the Trump thread. I get confused. 

[mushroom 13,422]

The clue is in the name of the type “terrier” Old Latin (terra) for earth. Terriers were originally bred as ground dogs as in mainly underground, if not first and foremost. 


 

Edited to add; I could be wrong but I think the full word “terrier” came from old French, which would be a derivative of the Latin terra.

Edited April 1 by mushroom

[Aycliffe-Ferreter 10]

15 hours ago, gunter said:

Knowledge ffs I'd say what you know about terriers and digging you could write it on a fleas back with a roller I go out 3 4 days a week when seasons in digging catch a grip of yourself get off whatever high horse your on and read few more books pal learn yourself abit even better get yourself out get a few ferrets killed atb

Gunter man you’re definitely a keyboard warrior, I was just having a conversation I’ve kept patterdales and Russell’s for years and I know what they do.

A man that doesn’t want to learn is a fool. I don’t know why you’re trying to argue. We were talking about the Russell you ask where he got it and I answered and I said to read a book. There’s nothing wrong with that. Then you started crying? 

 

Edited April 2 by Aycliffe-Ferreter

[gunter 406]

Only a fool would assume we all want to learn the same things...who's arguing....I asked were he got the russel maybe your the fool can't see sarcasm...I wasn't crying pal I was just allergic to your opinion good luck 

[Bangersanmash 3,923]

3 hours ago, Aycliffe-Ferreter said:

Gunter man you’re definitely a keyboard warrior, I was just having a conversation I’ve kept patterdales and Russell’s for years and I know what they do.

A man that doesn’t want to learn is a fool. I don’t know why you’re trying to argue. We were talking about the Russell you ask where he got it and I answered and I said to read a book. There’s nothing wrong with that. Then you started crying? 

 

[Samson 2021 5]

I was led to believe that terriers were first bred for earth work . Terrier=terra Latin for earth . 

[fireman 11,038]

22 hours ago, mushroom said:

The clue is in the name of the type “terrier” Old Latin (terra) for earth. Terriers were originally bred as ground dogs as in mainly underground, if not first and foremost. 


 

Edited to add; I could be wrong but I think the full word “terrier” came from old French, which would be a derivative of the Latin terra.

Terriers were called curs before they were called terriers ,hence the phrase to cur tail when you had to pay taxes on dogs except small dogs and to show this they cut the tails off them and the habit of docking small dogs has stuck. Latin came along when  christianity spread.as that's the written language they used and there were small dogs used for hunting and vermin control way before then..

[mushroom 13,422]

2 hours ago, fireman said:

Terriers were called curs before they were called terriers ,hence the phrase to cur tail when you had to pay taxes on dogs except small dogs and to show this they cut the tails off them and the habit of docking small dogs has stuck. Latin came along when  christianity spread.as that's the written language they used and there were small dogs used for hunting and vermin control way before then..

Gotta disagree with the Latin bit mate. Latin came with the Romans, not Christianity. That came much later (250-300 years) after Theodosius made it the official religion of the Roman Empire in the late 300’s (Constantine was the first Christian emperor early 300’s). 
 

The cur tail bit, no idea. Something I’ll have a butchers into as boring shit like this interests me  

Edited April 2 by mushroom

[Aussie Whip 4,192]

I have an English book on dogs, it's from 1700's and they reckon terriers were originally bred, way before then from beagles and mongrel mastiffs. Don't know how much truth there is to that.

[TonyT 1,497]

6 hours ago, Aussie Whip said:

I have an English book on dogs, it's from 1700's and they reckon terriers were originally bred, way before then from beagles and mongrel mastiffs. Don't know how much truth there is to that.

Who wrote that AW …. Brian Plummer ?

ATVB Tony

[Aussie Whip 4,192]

2 hours ago, TonyT said:

Who wrote that AW …. Brian Plummer ?

ATVB Tony

We all know Brian was the creator of terriers and the universe lol but I think the book was before his time. Does anyone know how terriers really originated?

[gunter 406]

The "first" terrier type dog is a bit of a broad question, as terriers evolved over time and weren't a single, defined breed. However, the origins of modern terriers can be traced back to the now-extinct Old English White Terrier and the Old English Black-and-tan Terrier that were common in England as early as the 1700s. 

[gunter 406]

  I don't know  but just my opinion there will always have  been dogs small medium large I guess it's the same now as it was back then you just bred to type if you look at russels there's all different types same as patterdales and stuff really all anyone does is breed to type I guess as soon as there were settlements and people kept stock they started trying to come up with something to kill pests The Black and Tan Terrier, sometimes called "Terrar", was a type of terrier referenced as far back as Tudor times. 

[Bangersanmash 3,923]

18 hours ago, Samson 2021 said:

I was led to believe that terriers were first bred for earth work . Terrier=terra Latin for earth . 

Ffs your abit late on that one. Lol

[Samson 2021 5]

4 hours ago, Bangersanmash said:

Ffs your abit late on that one. Lol

I need to read the full comments section before commenting on future I think