mackem 28,540 Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 Sexual abuse within the church. Justin Welby tells BBC abuse in Church was 'overwhelming' WWW.BBC.CO.UK In his first interview since resigning, the former Archbishop of Canterbury tells Laura Kuenssberg about his... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 9,046 Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 I read that Mack. The established churches, although doing some good, act as grooming gangs for warped, paedophiles. We even had the Damai Lama pushing his tongue into little boy's mouth in full view. Nothing to see here folks. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 29,960 Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 They wear dresses ffs it’s a bigger tell tell than Rolfe Harris singing two little boys, faggots and miscreants have been drawn to the cross like moths to a light for decades the biggest surprise to me is that people are surprised 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,468 Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 If Christianity is to survive, it needs to start burning the perpetrators of these heinous crimes at the stake. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mel b 3,060 Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 16 hours ago, mackem said: Sexual abuse within the church. Justin Welby tells BBC abuse in Church was 'overwhelming' WWW.BBC.CO.UK In his first interview since resigning, the former Archbishop of Canterbury tells Laura Kuenssberg about his... Being overwhelmed by it all would be understandable, if it was me or you, that just got dropped into the middle of it one day . You just wouldn't know which way to turn . He must have had full knowledge of everything that was going on for years , long before he got the top job . Once he did get the top job , he chose not to rock the boat , because he either finds it acceptable, or , he just didn't want to lose his place at the trough. I'll tell you how to deal with it vicar , call the f***ing police , and report the f***ing nonce's!!!. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 28,540 Posted March 30 Author Report Share Posted March 30 12 minutes ago, mel b said: He must have had full knowledge of everything that was going on for years Silence is compliance,he is equally as culpable,remember the Einstein quote The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil but by those who watch them without doing anything. 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mel b 3,060 Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 9 minutes ago, mackem said: Silence is compliance,he is equally as culpable,remember the Einstein quote The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil but by those who watch them without doing anything. Spot on mack. No decent human being would let that happen . He had a choice , and he chose to let it carry on. I really hope their is a heaven and hell. Guess where he'd be going. He's as bad as Paula vennels. She was a church minister , yet she stood by and watched innocent men and women , go to prison , take their own life , lose their homes and livelihoods, suffer humiliation and shame . All in the name of profit , and keeping her nose in the trough. Despicable b*****ds !!!. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 9,046 Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 https://youtu.be/FPFKgNAmHcY?si=Ln-Pgvdr7Un8VPKU Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,305 Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 9 hours ago, pesky1972 said: If Christianity is to survive, it needs to start burning the perpetrators of these heinous crimes at the stake. 100% ! I have said for years, the organised Christian church in all its various denominations should have thrown open the doors to police investigators and fully assisted in every way possible……but they didn’t ! Now, I understand that our traditional Christian values have been under attack and undermined by western governments for years, so I get that church leaders may not have trusted authority’s in the slightest…..but I think that was a massive mistake and has, if anything, played into western governments attacks on Christian Europe even more…..it’s been a massive own goal. As always, it’s been a case of not practicing what you preach……they should have unconditionally given access to police and helped them root out every deviant and trusted to god it would all end up in the right place. Yes we know western governments want to destroy the Christian church, yes we know they don’t scrutinise Islam in the same way by any measure despite it being a hotbed of rape and murder but that’s not the point….its looks like what it is, covering arses and protecting beasts and if anything that has done more damage to the church than the government could have dreamed of. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stavross 16,712 Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 All in the name of their made up god, with all this going on in every religious organisation it baffles me why the decent people in these organisations ( which I’m sure there is some ) don’t distance themselves from the church and maybe question if there was a god would him/her/it let this happen I’d burn the fu*king lot of them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,305 Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 3 minutes ago, Stavross said: All in the name of their made up god, with all this going on in every religious organisation it baffles me why the decent people in these organisations ( which I’m sure there is some ) don’t distance themselves from the church and maybe question if there was a god would him/her/it let this happen I’d burn the fu*king lot of them I don’t think it’s in the name of anything other than perversion, self interest and a massively broken moral compass…..from your local bowls club to the United Nations….when you form “a club” and give it governors and bosses and promote people to positions of ”power” they will do anything to retain their position and the status quo…..that’s not a trait that’s particular to religion, it’s everywhere and in everything. It clouds the “thing” and the “deed” and this is exactly what western governments want….they want you to turn away from the thing that was the basis of all the treasures Europeans enjoy……we are so used to these things we don’t even notice but it’s as simple as if there’s a bus going past your window, thank a white European Christian bloke from way back when who lived in society where Christian principals allowed him to be educated and flourish and invent and produce ! That didn’t happen anywhere else ! The fact that corrupt people with dark agendas got to be running and manning institutions that self proclaimed to be the representations of “the thing” has nothing to do with the thing itself ! “God” has f**k all to with it….. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 9,046 Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 There were proposals to make it a legal duty to report paedophilia. Sitting on suspicions or evidence would be a criminal offence. The sooner that law is on the statute book the better. I hope the penalty for keeping stum is draconian. Once people's own arses are on the line we will see lots of police activity in places where professionals are in positions of trust. Breaking news. Justin Welby has FORGIVEN John Smyth the determined paedophile. That's OK then Justin, God loves you. 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,305 Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 Just now, jukel123 said: There were proposals to make it a legal duty to report paedophilia. Sitting on suspicions or evidence would be a criminal offence. The sooner that law is on the statute book the better. I hope the penalty for keeping stum is draconian. Once people's own arses are on the line we will see lots of police activity in places where professionals are in positions of trust. 100% mate, totally agree. Just now, jukel123 said: Breaking news. Justin Welby has FORGIVEN John Smyth the determined paedophile. That's OK then Justin, God loves you. It’s amazing the depth of stupidity by these people, and this is what damages the church even more….nobody outside of a few committed do gooders will look at that statement by Welby and see anything more than face value…..and nobody in their right mind can understand how you forgive a serial child abuser. Anyone with half a brain and a moral compass says “It’s not upto me to forgive him, I can’t, I leave that decision to god” …….everyone can agree with that no matter what they believe or don’t. What nobody can agree with is forgiving dirty f***ing animals. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 9,046 Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 5 minutes ago, WILF said: 100% mate, totally agree. It’s amazing the depth of stupidity by these people, and this is what damages the church even more….nobody outside of a few committed do gooders will look at that statement by Welby and see anything more than face value…..and nobody in their right mind can understand how you forgive a serial child abuser. Anyone with half a brain and a moral compass says “It’s not upto me to forgive him, I can’t, I leave that decision to god” …….everyone can agree with that no matter what they believe or don’t. What nobody can agree with is forgiving dirty f***ing animals. It's a pity they won't go further and pass a law making sitting on suspicions or evidence of paedophilia a retrospective criminal offence. If they did that we could punish the dozens of trusted professionals who knew about the Pakistani grooming gangs along with Justin Welby and his like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,305 Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 (edited) 7 minutes ago, jukel123 said: It's a pity they won't go further and pass a law making sitting on suspicions or evidence of paedophilia a retrospective criminal offence. If they did that we could punish the dozens of trusted professionals who knew about the Pakistani grooming gangs along with Justin Welby and his like. I get you mate and I get the sentiment but the reality is it couldn’t work, there’s no measure to “thought” crime…..these things have to be based on real harm and real facts and real evidence. You cant trust your average person…..you’d have absolute hideous people running off calling people a nonce over the silliest little thing like “I don’t like that he is cutting his lawn on a Sunday morning, ill ring the old bill and say I think he is a nonce” You cant police what people think, you have to police what they do…..we have seen how bad “speech” law is, it can get used anyway anyone including the government want without any logical definitive measure and that’s always bad law. Edited March 30 by WILF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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