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  On 28/03/2025 at 12:54, tatsblisters said:

True mate. Only pup's I've enjoyed breeding were springer spaniels probably down to they would be all gone at 8 weeks. 

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Spaniels are my worst nightmare haha them fcukers make me dizzy jist watching them haha iv bred 2 litters in me time, one was a litter of Middleton lakies, birch come direct off him an was here for 12 years, went back an used his dog as stud, an there was only 4 pups, all went to family or guys I work dogs with, not a penny changes hands anywhere, tho the lads who took the pups where always handing in bags of meat an stuff for them, then bred same birch agajn to a collie haha it’s what we was using tk beat woods to lurchers, an he was amazing at it an so was the lakie so we bred them an kept all pups again, both times I swore never again, but secknd litter ruined me, ended up practically taking weeks off work to make sure they had the best of start, was happy with outcome both times tho. 

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Yes,. .Anastasia produced a better class of Deerhound for the original job, and some, were even passable at organised hare coursing,.. (although it was never their proper vocation).. Back in the

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  On 28/03/2025 at 12:48, WataWalloper said:

It’s that much hard work I refuse to do it haha far easier ways of getting a pup in, an 9 times out of 10 if you look about you will find pups bred off dogs better than your own, it’s just being honest with yourself I think, if I genuinely thought I couldn’t buy or beg a better mutt than what I like breed then I’d breed, but how often have we for the best about in our kennels? Iv had some decent dogs but always knows dogs a bit better haha

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Very true.But there also a lot of people out there with decent dogs who don't wanna spend a few quid or have the basic knowledge on how to rear a litter of pups properly.Christ I've seen some ropey looking,Shy litters in my time

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  On 28/03/2025 at 14:01, downsouth said:

Very true.But there also a lot of people out there with decent dogs who don't wanna spend a few quid or have the basic knowledge on how to rear a litter of pups properly.Christ I've seen some ropey looking,Shy litters in my time

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Iv walked away from a few over the years, sayin that tho iv also walked away from a couple a lovely healthy litters cos I just didn’t fancy them, to a certain degree I would sway the type or cross I was after, but I’d never sway on the litter. So if I was after a nice whippet pup an couldn’t find one that suited but saw a whippet x litter that j fancied I wouldn’t think twice about changing the cross or type, but again most mutts can do what I do to a degree. Madness when you see a healthy pup on here an folks saying how good it looks, when all pups should be a picture of health haha 

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  On 28/03/2025 at 14:06, WataWalloper said:

Iv walked away from a few over the years, sayin that tho iv also walked away from a couple a lovely healthy litters cos I just didn’t fancy them, to a certain degree I would sway the type or cross I was after, but I’d never sway on the litter. So if I was after a nice whippet pup an couldn’t find one that suited but saw a whippet x litter that j fancied I wouldn’t think twice about changing the cross or type, but again most mutts can do what I do to a degree. Madness when you see a healthy pup on here an folks saying how good it looks, when all pups should be a picture of health haha 

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Exactly that mate.Also see it with adult dogs on here,multiple "wow amazing condition when in fact it just looks like any dog should if it gets decent grub and half decent walk everyday.Ive upset a couple of people over the years walking away from litters.Also had people tell me how fantastic my pups always look when in reality,like you say all pups should look like that.

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  On 28/03/2025 at 12:59, WataWalloper said:

Spaniels are my worst nightmare haha them fcukers make me dizzy jist watching them haha iv bred 2 litters in me time, one was a litter of Middleton lakies, birch come direct off him an was here for 12 years, went back an used his dog as stud, an there was only 4 pups, all went to family or guys I work dogs with, not a penny changes hands anywhere, tho the lads who took the pups where always handing in bags of meat an stuff for them, then bred same birch agajn to a collie haha it’s what we was using tk beat woods to lurchers, an he was amazing at it an so was the lakie so we bred them an kept all pups again, both times I swore never again, but secknd litter ruined me, ended up practically taking weeks off work to make sure they had the best of start, was happy with outcome both times tho. 

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I remember that collie/lakie, katch, you had a pic on here of it.

 

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  On 27/03/2025 at 19:28, OldPhil said:

Yes,. .Anastasia produced a better class of Deerhound for the original job, and some, were even passable at organised hare coursing,.. (although it was never their proper vocation)..

Back in the day,.. we used one of her line , straight over an Irish coursing Greyhound Dam,...the resulting progeny were Page Three stunners, absolutely beautiful,.. and more than adequate, for the Roe an Fallow Does.

However,.as a mere rabbiter,  I required a slightly smaller, more compact jukel...

I wanted to retain the fabled 'easy to live with ' temperament of the noble Deerhound, whilst bringing down the size.. It was a successful breeding project and in many ways, I wish that I had continued with it, alas, the call of the Sheepdog was just too strong,. and I went back to what I knew. 

Whatever,.. we had some fabulous years with the Deerhound hybrids....👏🏼

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Cracking photos as always Phil. In the middle one, the deerX looks like it’s saying “just fuucking try it cnut” to the fezzer :laugh: 

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  On 28/03/2025 at 20:27, TOMO said:

Bollox....i was thinking of one of mchulls dogs over my black lightening bitch...

You know how he likes collie grews...definitely improve his line

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the fawn dog  ive just about got leaving deer alone the peace and relaxation i get compared to white c**t is mad best thing i did lol

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  On 28/03/2025 at 21:19, mC HULL said:

the fawn dog  ive just about got leaving deer alone the peace and relaxation i get compared to white c**t is mad best thing i did lol

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Nice land MC and dogs look great bet your lad enjoyed the mooch my little boys have been enjoying that lamp you sent down for them when they come over👍

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  On 28/03/2025 at 21:47, dodger said:

Nice land MC and dogs look great bet your lad enjoyed the mooch my little boys have been enjoying that lamp you sent down for them when they come over👍

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ye but he jacked on me today lol the little knob had to get him on me shoulders about 3 mile 

glad they getting some use from it mate 

 

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  On 28/03/2025 at 21:19, mC HULL said:

the fawn dog  ive just about got leaving deer alone the peace and relaxation i get compared to white c**t is mad best thing i did lol

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How did you discourage your dog from being intersted in deer mc?  All sight hounds/ lurchers go apeshit   when they see that bouncing white arse of a deer. I'm amazed you could break a dogs instinct  to want to course deer.

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  On 28/03/2025 at 12:54, tatsblisters said:

True mate. Only pup's I've enjoyed breeding were springer spaniels probably down to they would be all gone at 8 weeks. 

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The worst aspect of breeding pups is the amount of time wasters, hagglers, tyre kickers and beggars they attract. I've bred a few litters of springers and as you say they all,go by 8 weeks.

I would never breed lurchers, they attract the wrong type of people. Imagine mchull on the phone. f**k me, a fate worse than death.

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Breaking his dogs to deer ? 
What a load of guff !

This is so when his competition comes off and Tomo’s little whippet type is mullering the deer, mC can say “ but I told you my dogs are broken to deer “ ! LOL !

He’s not as daft is he looks, is my young protege!

Cheers.

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  On 28/03/2025 at 22:43, jukel123 said:

How did you discourage your dog from being intersted in deer mc?  All sight hounds/ lurchers go apeshit   when they see that bouncing white arse of a deer. I'm amazed you could break a dogs instinct  to want to course deer.

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long lead e collar and a bit a scruffin lol 

 

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