TOMO 27,425 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 Didn't one or two of them soldiers stay out 30 year or something....like one of mchull dogs reeling a hare in...lol 8 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 14,328 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 38 minutes ago, shaaark said: Don't like to say this charts, but ............ I TOLD YOU!!! As the old saying goes, there are none so blind as those that WON'T see!! lol lol things have advanced since 1976 mate just not space travel lol 3 Quote Link to post
Pardus 418 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 What distances do they reign supreme over the rest of the breeds Charts? Quote Link to post
mC HULL 14,328 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 1 minute ago, TOMO said: Didn't one or two of them soldiers stay out 30 year or something....like one of mchull dogs reeling a hare in...lol right the day we run morning i’ll run doubled little red bitch one a yours for 3 then afternoon her against ya other dog single bows shes a 23 tts feathered plodder looks pure be good to see it side by side with a fast type on the job lol not on grass summer over 150yds on a teddy lol Quote Link to post
mC HULL 14,328 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 1 minute ago, Pardus said: What distances do they reign supreme over the rest of the breeds Charts? kick a football as far as you can mate any distance before it will lead a length lol 1 Quote Link to post
chartpolski 25,729 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 1 minute ago, Pardus said: What distances do they reign supreme over the rest of the breeds Charts? As I’ve said countless times , the sprint distance; 150 - 200 yards. No, they haven’t got great stamina, No, they won’t kill 3-3 hares, No they won’t run a hare for 4,5,6 minutes. Why people are comparing them to coursing bred dogs baffles me. Im saying they will add speed to a coursing type, IF that’s what you want. Cheers. 4 Quote Link to post
TOMO 27,425 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 3 minutes ago, mC HULL said: right the day we run morning i’ll run doubled little red bitch one a yours for 3 then afternoon her against ya other dog single bows shes a 23 tts feathered plodder looks pure be good to see it side by side with a fast type on the job lol not on grass summer over 150yds on a teddy lol Not me you got to convince mate...alot of coursing dogs are quick... 1 Quote Link to post
Pardus 418 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 3 minutes ago, chartpolski said: As I’ve said countless times , the sprint distance; 150 - 200 yards. No, they haven’t got great stamina, No, they won’t kill 3-3 hares, No they won’t run a hare for 4,5,6 minutes. Why people are comparing them to coursing bred dogs baffles me. Im saying they will add speed to a coursing type, IF that’s what you want. Cheers. What are they like stamina wise compared to a greyhound? Surely if it's speed you're after, a greyhound would be more apt, after all they clock the highest speeds of any dogs? Quote Link to post
chartpolski 25,729 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 1 minute ago, Pardus said: What are they like stamina wise compared to a greyhound? Surely if it's speed you're after, a greyhound would be more apt, after all they clock the highest speeds of any dogs? Many years ago I had a very good non-ped. , I’ve told this tale on here before, I match raced it against a track greyhound over 150 yards straight and won by two lengths. I then ran it again over 270 yards and led up to about 170 yards then the greyhound took over and won by around two yards, much as I expected. If the race had of went to 440 yards the greyhound would have won by more. There are a few non-ped whippets x greyhound that beat full greyhounds over 270, and one or two hold track records over 270,but they are damn near greyhound size and weight. It’s getting monotonous now, I keep saying the non-ped is the fastest over the sprint distance 150-200 yards. Cheers. Quote Link to post
Pardus 418 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 7 minutes ago, chartpolski said: Many years ago I had a very good non-ped. , I’ve told this tale on here before, I match raced it against a track greyhound over 150 yards straight and won by two lengths. I then ran it again over 270 yards and led up to about 170 yards then the greyhound took over and won by around two yards, much as I expected. If the race had of went to 440 yards the greyhound would have won by more. There are a few non-ped whippets x greyhound that beat full greyhounds over 270, and one or two hold track records over 270,but they are damn near greyhound size and weight. It’s getting monotonous now, I keep saying the non-ped is the fastest over the sprint distance 150-200 yards. Cheers. I'm not disagreeing with you but if you want speed you go with greyhound surely, unless you are wanting something for rabbits where that initial burst is more important? Quote Link to post
chartpolski 25,729 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 3 minutes ago, Pardus said: I'm not disagreeing with you but if you want speed you go with greyhound surely, unless you are wanting something for rabbits where that initial burst is more important? The initial burst of speed, acceleration, is important in hare coursing aswell, and nothing is faster of the mark, out of the box, of the slip than a non- ped. with my bitch being 28 1/2” and 75lb the best option to bring the size down a bit and keep or improve the speed in the pups would be a non-ped, not a greyhound, but that’s only my opinion. Someone wanting to increase the size and speed may be better off using a greyhound. Everyone had their own thoughts and opinions. Cheers. 3 Quote Link to post
Pardus 418 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 Just now, chartpolski said: The initial burst of speed, acceleration, is important in hare coursing aswell, and nothing is faster of the mark, out of the box, of the slip than a non- ped. with my bitch being 28 1/2” and 75lb the best option to bring the size down a bit and keep or improve the speed in the pups would be a non-ped, not a greyhound, but that’s only my opinion. Someone wanting to increase the size and speed may be better off using a greyhound. Everyone had their own thoughts and opinions. Cheers. Hare coursing yes, hare catching, perhaps not so much? Quote Link to post
dodger 3,061 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 3 hours ago, TOMO said: It's something I have thought about.... I would be happy with an exact clone...but of course that's not possible... I did think about a coursing type over one of them as I run a fair few over the winter local ...but I also use them at work on the ferreting jobs.... I could go to a grew....and keep something similar...or back to collie grew for the ferreting....if I did that catching anything daytime racing might be a gamble... Then charts throws a spanner in the works with his generous offer...as I have a real soft spot for a dog bred that way with how Sally was....if there was a smooth red bitch in that litter...would be very hard to turn down Makes sense Quote Link to post
chartpolski 25,729 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 The fawn dog is out of this greyhound bitch, Ive just realised I was offered a pup out of the previous mating, but the bitch absorbed the pups. It was a tidy little greyhound, only 56lb Cheers. 6 Quote Link to post
Mountainandmoor 21 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 2 hours ago, chartpolski said: The fawn dog is out of this greyhound bitch, Ive just realised I was offered a pup out of the previous mating, but the bitch absorbed the pups. It was a tidy little greyhound, only 56lb Cheers. Looks a nice wee bitch. Enjoying this thread. Not my intention to derail the thread but what's folks experience quick opinions on running a nice compact pure ex racer for certain things? Are they too likely to get injured as only used to running the track or if you get a younger one, can they be brought on as general all-rounders? Cheers Quote Link to post
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