Deerhound greyhound

[jukel123 9,046]

6 hours ago, tatsblisters said:

Remember seeing that pic in one of the booklets on lurchers i have of Vic with blue and a load of rabbits and hare's advertising the dog at stud and was tempted myself to get in touch to use him over one of my lurcher bitches back then. 

That photo tempted me to get a pup out of Blue. But ,the luck of the draw, she was very poor.

I think he showed Blue had caught a 100 rabbits on the lamp and he was asking for competition to run against him.

Some other lads who had  Minshaw dogs ran them doubled up  on the lamp on hares and they wanted competitors too.

I always thought running dogs doubled up on the lamp was asking for serious accidents, but that was the way they did it. Few lurchermen would even run hares on the lamp these days even if it was legal, as its considered unsporting.  But back in the day sporting like behaviour didn't enter into it. They were after money .

Edited April 2 by jukel123

[trigger2 3,193]

1 hour ago, jukel123 said:

That photo tempted me to get a pup out of Blue. But ,the luck of the draw, she was very poor.

I think he showed Blue had caught a 100 rabbits on the lamp and he was asking for competition to run against him.

Some other lads who had  Minshaw dogs ran them doubled up  on the lamp on hares and they wanted competitors too.

I always thought running dogs doubled up on the lamp was asking for serious accidents, but that was the way they did it. Few lurchermen would even run hares on the lamp these days even if it was legal, as its considered unsporting.  But back in the day sporting like behaviour didn't enter into it. They were after money .

The advantage of running the dogs doubled up is that they push each other harder. It's good for keeping dogs super fit imo it makes it slightly easier. You can catch alot more game aswell some times.

I've done it over the years.

[jukel123 9,046]

10 minutes ago, trigger2 said:

The advantage of running the dogs doubled up is that they push each other harder. It's good for keeping dogs super fit imo it makes it slightly easier. You can catch alot more game aswell some times.

I've done it over the years.

 On the lamp or daytime? Didn't they crash into each other? Genuine questions. 

[jukel123 9,046]

An afterthought. Minshaw wanted £300 for a pup. That was daft money in the eighties. Eventually we settled on £60.

Given how the pup turned out , I was robbed.

[dodger 2,957]

9 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

An afterthought. Minshaw wanted £300 for a pup. That was daft money in the eighties. Eventually we settled on £60.

Given how the pup turned out , I was robbed.

We're do you think the stamina came from in your opinion some mentioned hound in there not sure if true but some had very good noses didn't they plus the build alot had.

[dodger 2,957]

Meant to say aswell as the obvious Collie

[jukel123 9,046]

5 minutes ago, dodger said:

We're do you think the stamina came from in your opinion some mentioned hound in there not sure if true but some had very good noses didn't they plus the build alot had.

I don't want to start a new Minshaw thread, because they go on for hundreds of pages..

But, despite my personal experience, I believe the strain did have exceptional stamina. I saw  Minshaw dogs run and I used the same game dealer as they did , so I saw what they were bringing in on an almost daily basis.

Imo, it came from lots of collie blood combined with a big barrel chest for heart room.

They all had a 'look' about them. They were not racy dogs by any stretch. So they were not busting a gut on every run and ending  up knackered. You don't need an exceptionally fast dog at night. Maybe on short grass and on lamp shy prey, but on rough terrain, you don't need bursts of high speed. They ran almost every night so were naturally fit .

I've read hound, pit bull,bedlington and God knows what else went into the mix.

For me they were primarily collie saturated, very fit  lurchers.

But I don't claim to be an authority.

I only dabbled in lurcherwork. Those guys did little else but run their dogs.

Incidentally, I was told Blue met his death in the teeth of a pit bull. Sad end for a legend.

[trigger2 3,193]

1 hour ago, jukel123 said:

 On the lamp or daytime? Didn't they crash into each other? Genuine questions. 

On the lamp mate. Used to run doubled up on the rabbits some nights for a winner takes all the bag. Good bit of fun. Never had any problems with  accidents. I will say the dogs new each other from pups.

[steve t 1,085]

On 24/03/2025 at 20:32, chartpolski said:

She’s in season now ! But I’ll not be having her mated, she’s just three years old. 
Cheers.

Looks like I'll just have to breed my own then

[chartpolski 25,582]

2 minutes ago, steve t said:

Looks like I'll just have to breed my own then

I was just looking at two prospective studs this morning at an Open Whippet Racing Competition !

Two of the fastest non-ped whippet x greyhounds in the country ;

Maybe next time she’s in season.

Cheers.

[Chevy Chase 91]

12 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

I was just looking at two prospective studs this morning at an Open Whippet Racing Competition !

Two of the fastest non-ped whippet x greyhounds in the country ;

Maybe next time she’s in season.

Cheers.

They both look big dogs for non peds when stood next to your bitch 

[chartpolski 25,582]

1 minute ago, Chevy Chase said:

They both look big dogs for non peds when stood next to your bitch 

They are . They are non-ped whippet x greyhound.

The black one is 25” , 50lb.

The fawn one is 26”, 55lb.

Cheers.

[WataWalloper 1,579]

58 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

They are . They are non-ped whippet x greyhound.

The black one is 25” , 50lb.

The fawn one is 26”, 55lb.

Cheers.

Get one over her an I’ll have a bitch pup off ye haha 

[WataWalloper 1,579]

1 hour ago, steve t said:

Looks like I'll just have to breed my own then

What you breeding pal? 

[TOMO 27,356]

You know it makes sense charts