TOMO 27,149 Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 Side note....my next door neighbour named his springer spaniel Giro...lol 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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jukel123 8,979 Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 1 minute ago, low plains drifter said: I'm all for Shariah law for grooming gangs. The penalty for pedophilia is castration and or life imprisonment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,152 Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 29 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said: Here is the thing mate, everyone is “contributing” all the time, everywhere !……even the bloke on the dole is contributing ! If he buys a tank of diesel, he is contributing….lets say for ease of argument he sticks in £100 of fuel…..that bloke has just paid £70 in tax just like everyone else ! He pays VAT like everyone else…if he has pint or smokes, he is paying duty. If he buys a pair of shoes or a packet of biscuits or a portion of chips…he is contributing ! The only thing he isn’t paying is income tax and NI…..to that I think “so what ?” It’s just a minuscule extra to the tax burden he already has…… And these fuckers talk like that want to balance the books when in reality they are mortgaging generations ahead in order to look after people who are not our own and who f***ing hate us anyway and so their investment bank pals get rich on interest payment for money that didn’t exist in the first place. Ill say it again, this isn’t even a conversation…..it’s getting people arguing about the size of something that don’t exist. What does exist are the struggles of people who wasn’t blessed with the ability to earn a grand a week (to stand still !!), what does exist is sick people who will die before they ever get to see a doctor never mind graft their last days so they can give the state and extra £60 a week !, what does exist are disabled people who don’t have provision to even get them to the ever decreasing amount of special schools. Meanwhile 2 million fighting age males languish in hotels at the country’s expense (in more ways than one !)….if governments want value for money, get them c**ts out picking up all the filth strewn around our towns and cities their relatives have taken over ! This “benefits man bad” card is so f***ing old we shouldn’t even be talking for it…..don’t worry about the cat lady with anxiety issues and her £100 a week, send the 2 million pakis home first ! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 10,502 Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 2 minutes ago, TOMO said: Yeh I spent a few years getting a giro...got made redundant 3 times in the late 80.s early 90 s....I can't say I felt well off on benefits...I had to do bits on the side to get by... Same here mate late 80s went hod carrying for a score a day and demolition that other dog lads were on then every other Tuesday take a change of clothes to go and dab on as you were straight in and out biggest risk was some in the local boozers grassing you up if they knew you were on the fiddle and the biggest culprits were some of the older retired steelworkers' who had never had the misfortune to find themselves out of work when the steel industry was booming around here after WW2. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,152 Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 Just now, tatsblisters said: Same here mate late 80s went hod carrying for a score a day and demolition that other dog lads were on then every other Tuesday take a change of clothes to go and dab on as you were straight in and out biggest risk was some in the local boozers grassing you up if they knew you were on the fiddle and the biggest culprits were some of the older retired steelworkers' who had never had the misfortune to find themselves out of work when the steel industry was booming around here after WW2. Everyone was at it when I was a kid, you’d have to leave site to get your £30 !! lol f**k em, folks talk about it like it’s all coming out a neat little pot set aside with everyone’s NI payments in it…..newsflash, that got spend 50 year ago ! lol 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,979 Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 1 minute ago, tatsblisters said: Same here mate late 80s went hod carrying for a score a day and demolition that other dog lads were on then every other Tuesday take a change of clothes to go and dab on as you were straight in and out biggest risk was some in the local boozers grassing you up if they knew you were on the fiddle and the biggest culprits were some of the older retired steelworkers' who had never had the misfortune to find themselves out of work when the steel industry was booming around here after WW2. Grassing on people in those circumstances is low, low, low. My brother, when he was a Councillor, received an ' anonymous' letter. It read something like "I want to remain anonymous but my brother Jim Smith is claiming disability, motablity when we were ar a party dancing last night. etc, etc." He put his correct address down too. Thick , sad b*****d. Lol 1 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,979 Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 4 minutes ago, WILF said: Everyone was at it when I was a kid, you’d have to leave site to get your £30 !! lol f**k em, folks talk about it like it’s all coming out a neat little pot set aside with everyone’s NI payments in it…..newsflash, that got spend 50 year ago ! lol Almost as bad as signing into the House of Lords, falling asleep and being paid 360 odd quid a day. 2 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TRUEBRIT66 1,792 Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 2 minutes ago, WILF said: Here is the thing mate, everyone is “contributing” all the time, everywhere !……even the bloke on the dole is contributing ! If he buys a tank of diesel, he is contributing….lets say for ease of argument he sticks in £100 of fuel…..that bloke has just paid £70 in tax just like everyone else ! He pays VAT like everyone else…if he has pint or smokes, he is paying duty. If he buys a pair of shoes or a packet of biscuits or a portion of chips…he is contributing ! The only thing he isn’t paying is income tax and NI…..to that I think “so what ?” It’s just a minuscule extra to the tax burden he already has…… And these fuckers talk like that want to balance the books when in reality they are mortgaging generations ahead in order to look after people who are not our own and who f***ing hate us anyway and so their investment bank pals get rich on interest payment for money that didn’t exist in the first place. Ill say it again, this isn’t even a conversation…..it’s getting people arguing about the size of something that don’t exist. What does exist are the struggles of people who wasn’t blessed with the ability to earn a grand a week (to stand still !!), what does exist is sick people who will die before they ever get to see a doctor never mind graft their last days so they can give the state and extra £60 a week !, what does exist are disabled people who don’t have provision to even get them to the ever decreasing amount of special schools. Meanwhile 2 million fighting age males languish in hotels at the country’s expense (in more ways than one !)….if governments want value for money, get them c**ts out picking up all the filth strewn around our towns and cities their relatives have taken over ! This “benefits man bad” card is so f***ing old we shouldn’t even be talking for it…..don’t worry about the cat lady with anxiety issues and her £100 a week, send the 2 million pakis home first ! By that thinking the illegal migrant who is buying his packet of hobnobs out of his benefits is paying back into the system, you cant differentiate on this. To be clear from where I stand and its probably more extreme than yours : Benefits to illegals.........STOPPED Benefits to people who are not disabled.......STOPPED Benefits to people who choose it as a life style choice........STOPPED 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,152 Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 Just now, jukel123 said: Almost as bad as signing into the House of Lords, falling asleep and being paid 360 odd quid a day. Bingo !……and there you have it mate. Nobody can rival the government when it comes to wanking away private citizens money, if we think a bloke on benefits is a problem then we really ain’t looking at the whole picture. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 10,502 Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 17 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said: I know 7 people on benefits, 5 are on disability and all 5 can 100% work and it is now a lifestyle choice by their own admission. In fact to rub salt in the wound they think I'm mad working now I've been diagnosed with Parkinsons. 2 work, 1 full time the other p/t but are topped up by benefits because the pay they get is shocking. I know who I think deserve it and who don't and I would have no problem stopping/cutting the first 5's benefits to give extra to the 2 who actually work. If however it didn't make any difference then we may as well all just throw in the towel and go on benefits! To some its just the case of playing the system though as far as disability payments go i admit i would stop it for alcoholics and drug addicts not for some one like my grandson who is on the autism spectrum and the last two year's he has developed epilepsy and has the odd seizure though he is in full time work and receives them pip payments that's put into a savings account not pissed up the wall or spent on drugs though i know the next time he is assessed he will loose this benefit. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TRUEBRIT66 1,792 Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 9 minutes ago, tatsblisters said: Same here mate late 80s went hod carrying for a score a day and demolition that other dog lads were on then every other Tuesday take a change of clothes to go and dab on as you were straight in and out biggest risk was some in the local boozers grassing you up if they knew you were on the fiddle and the biggest culprits were some of the older retired steelworkers' who had never had the misfortune to find themselves out of work when the steel industry was booming around here after WW2. Benefits in the 80's and 90's were not a lifestyle choice though. Most people on the dole wanted to work and were actively seeking work even moving abroad to get work or working on the side to survive. Now its just to easy to stay on it because the system is against the working person. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,152 Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 1 minute ago, TRUEBRIT66 said: By that thinking the illegal migrant who is buying his packet of hobnobs out of his benefits is paying back into the system, you cant differentiate on this. To be clear from where I stand and its probably more extreme than yours : Benefits to illegals.........STOPPED Benefits to people who are not disabled.......STOPPED Benefits to people who choose it as a life style choice........STOPPED The migrant shouldn’t be here, the ethnic shouldn’t be here and the British man/woman should…..it’s really as simple as that to me mate. We are attacking people for having symptoms of a disease they didn’t create and didn’t ask for. In my opinion most of these conversations are never about how to get people back to work, they are about making sure everyone is taking as much of a kicking as we all are….and they are two very different things. Here is a simple idea, if you want all these people to work….just take them out the tax system altogether ? Who would be up for that ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,979 Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 22 minutes ago, WILF said: Here is the thing mate, everyone is “contributing” all the time, everywhere !……even the bloke on the dole is contributing ! If he buys a tank of diesel, he is contributing….lets say for ease of argument he sticks in £100 of fuel…..that bloke has just paid £70 in tax just like everyone else ! He pays VAT like everyone else…if he has pint or smokes, he is paying duty. If he buys a pair of shoes or a packet of biscuits or a portion of chips…he is contributing ! The only thing he isn’t paying is income tax and NI…..to that I think “so what ?” It’s just a minuscule extra to the tax burden he already has…… And these fuckers talk like that want to balance the books when in reality they are mortgaging generations ahead in order to look after people who are not our own and who f***ing hate us anyway and so their investment bank pals get rich on interest payment for money that didn’t exist in the first place. Ill say it again, this isn’t even a conversation…..it’s getting people arguing about the size of something that don’t exist. What does exist are the struggles of people who wasn’t blessed with the ability to earn a grand a week (to stand still !!), what does exist is sick people who will die before they ever get to see a doctor never mind graft their last days so they can give the state and extra £60 a week !, what does exist are disabled people who don’t have provision to even get them to the ever decreasing amount of special schools. Meanwhile 2 million fighting age males languish in hotels at the country’s expense (in more ways than one !)….if governments want value for money, get them c**ts out picking up all the filth strewn around our towns and cities their relatives have taken over ! This “benefits man bad” card is so f***ing old we shouldn’t even be talking for it…..don’t worry about the cat lady with anxiety issues and her £100 a week, send the 2 million pakis home first ! Correct mate. The more money sloshing about the system is good for everybody. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TRUEBRIT66 1,792 Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 1 minute ago, tatsblisters said: To some its just the case of playing the system though as far as disability payments go i admit i would stop it for alcoholics and drug addicts not for some one like my grandson who is on the autism spectrum and the last two year's he has developed epilepsy and has the odd seizure though he is in full time work and receives them pip payments that's put into a savings account not pissed up the wall or spent on drugs though i know the next time he is assessed he will loose this benefit. And thats the sad part your Grandson is genuinely in need. Thinking about it now I probably know more people claiming benefits than not. We have 2 guys where I work claiming PIP whilst working full time one is a diabetic and fat as f**k the other has anxiety but manages to pop in a full pub every night. I don't care what anyone says that's just not fair and certainly not on people like your Grandson. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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