Benefits

[Borr 6,790]

So it's all going on , I had the misfortune to work with several sorts that could only work certain days as partners were claiming all sorts , I see out of 38k cars sold in NI 18k were for pip claims , over a million foreign nationals are claiming UK benefits , a myriad of claims can't be diagnosed and they're all fully aware of the loopholes etc , I think labour have fallen short on trying to mimic elons doge and I only hope reform can tackle the monster on benefits, it's purpose is for British folk who fall on hard times not entirely generations and millions of illegals and legals and natives that don't won't to work......

[TRUEBRIT66 1,826]

For days now we have had MSM ramming it down our throats that 1 in 4 youngsters are claiming benefits. These kids are in a lot of cases working minimum wage, are constantly being told they have no chance of buying a house and in very few cases ever have a chance of bettering themselves. How the hell do they think the 3 out of 4 that actually get out of their bedrooms feel about that?

Its never how we can resolve these issues and positivity its just about taking more money off the people who are actually contributing to the state and telling them how much harder its going to be on them. 

We need to stop benefits being a choice a radical and extreme approach is needed now before its too late. No contributions no pay nothing not a penny, proper means testing, mental health claimants reviewed and PIP stopped for anyone in mental health institutes, incentivise full time working, a time controlled system something like 100% 3 months, 50% 6 months, nothing after 12 months and re-start the old Remploy scheme giving genuinely disabled people the opportunity to get back to work. 

               

[jukel123 9,046]

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/wellbeing/articles/socialprotectioneuropeancomparisonsofexpenditure/2015

[WILF 48,264]

Bare this in mind……

When they talk about forcing disabled and sick people back to work they are only talking about British people…..you can bet your bollocks to a barn dance the boat people and the pakis with 3 wives and 4 council houses won’t be effected ! 
 

Id also like to know what job a sick or disabled person can do that earns them enough money to survive in a country where it’s almost not worth working anyway ?…..can someone tell me that ? 
 

Lastly, the bloke who only has the knowledge to earn £400 a week and is trying to support a wife and two kids in an area where rent is £2000 a month is nobody’s enemy and he isn’t a scrounger……he is a victim of a system that is perverse !! 
 

Benefits for British people isn’t even a conversion all the time we are spending £70 million quid a week looking after illegals and sending billions to war in Ukraine…..anyone stupid enough to look inward while all that is going on needs a slap round the face ! 

[riohog 5,818]

i did smile the other day when starmer said ,state pension is not a right.. its a privalage , eerm  hang on c..t i paid 40 years into the system with ni  were the fk did that go / well i know  to all the scrounging c,,ts and illigals    thank you cu,,t  i earned it ,,,,

[Bangersanmash 3,962]

18 minutes ago, WILF said:

Bare this in mind……

When they talk about forcing disabled and sick people back to work they are only talking about British people…..you can bet your bollocks to a barn dance the boat people and the pakis with 3 wives and 4 council houses won’t be effected ! 
 

Id also like to know what job a sick or disabled person can do that earns them enough money to survive in a country where it’s almost not worth working anyway ?…..can someone tell me that ? 
 

Lastly, the bloke who only has the knowledge to earn £400 a week and is trying to support a wife and two kids in an area where rent is £2000 a month is nobody’s enemy and he isn’t a scrounger……he is a victim of a system that is perverse !! 
 

Benefits for British people isn’t even a conversion all the time we are spending £70 million quid a week looking after illegals and sending billions to war in Ukraine…..anyone stupid enough to look inward while all that is going on needs a slap round the face ! 

We've gone back to Robin hood times. tax tax tax. Let's hope we've another Robin hood out there that can start taking from the rich c**ts. 

[TRUEBRIT66 1,826]

7 minutes ago, WILF said:

Bare this in mind……

When they talk about forcing disabled and sick people back to work they are only talking about British people…..you can bet your bollocks to a barn dance the boat people and the pakis with 3 wives and 4 council houses won’t be effected ! 
Agree, No contribution no pay who ever you are, simple. 

Id also like to know what job a sick or disabled person can do that earns them enough money to survive in a country where it’s almost not worth working anyway ?…..can someone tell me that ? 

I knew 2 people who worked for Remploy one had Down Syndrome and the other had a degenerative bone disease. It wasn't really working for a wage as you or I would know it and they still got benefits. What Remploy did was it gave them a purpose in life they felt they were part of something and were devastated when they shut the "factory". Apart from the positive I mentioned it would be more about winkling out the people who claim disability but aren't really disabled. How many claiming disability would actually want to work with genuinely disabled people to get part of their benefits?        

Lastly, the bloke who only has the knowledge to earn £400 a week and is trying to support a wife and two kids in an area where rent is £2000 a month is nobody’s enemy and he isn’t a scrounger……he is a victim of a system that is perverse !! 

Agree again, incentivise full time working again stop making benefits the easy choice.

Benefits for British people isn’t even a conversion all the time we are spending £70 million quid a week looking after illegals and sending billions to war in Ukraine…..anyone stupid enough to look inward while all that is going on needs a slap round the face ! 

Agree again, this would run with the No contribution no pay policy. How many would stay or even come here in the first place if that was the case?  

 

[Bangersanmash 3,962]

6 minutes ago, riohog said:

i did smile the other day when starmer said ,state pension is not a right.. its a privalage , eerm  hang on c..t i paid 40 years into the system with ni  were the fk did that go / well i know  to all the scrounging c,,ts and illigals    thank you cu,,t  i earned it ,,,,

My grandparents didn't buy there home. My grandads brother did his. Now my grandfather is paying full rent and council tax due to having a work pension. Woman up road who's in her late 70s early 80s couldnt get home help after breaking her hip. So after time spent in hospital not long say week. They sent her home. Shall we say to stand on her own two feet. Due to the fact she gets her husbands work pension who's no longer with us. So he had to wash up,  irion on her own , vax up , put the washing out. Thankfully she's got decent neighbours down road like my wife. Posh c**ts next door. " Said to her your grass is getting long " A went off my f***ing head. Silly c**t hand his mower out. And said that to a old woman. Just shows you how there brought up. 

[tatsblisters 10,591]

To me this is all bolox about saving money for the country as none of us who get up and do a shift will ever see the benefits of this so called money saving decisions by the government's and the people have a right to be angry when our taxes are more waisted than some poor feker that's fell on hard times or have conditions that makes them unable to work.

[steve66 3,646]

Wonder how much they'd rake back if they tackled bennifit frued propperly 

[jukel123 9,046]

A lot of the benefits bill is made up of pensions, housing costs and universal credit. I'm  a pensioner. I'm sorry for living so long lads.

Let's face it a lot of money spent on housing costs goes straight into the pockets of fat cat, greedy landlords who  charge crazy rents.

Universal credit is often paid to people who just can't live on the minimum wage because they have children. Why are wages so low that they have to be subsidised by the state?

Why do the brits obsess about benefits when at least 8 other countries in Europe spend far more on benefits?

And people in the UK are sicker than our European counterparts. We eat cheap , unhealthy food,  and work longer  hours compared to other countries.We also  spend far less on our health service than comparable countries.

It's all deflection. Keep the peasants fighting each other and kicking those below them and the real fraud at government and boardroom level is ignored.

Edited March 20 by jukel123

[tatsblisters 10,591]

6 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

A lot of the benefits bill is made up of pensions, housing costs and universal credit. I'm  a pensioner. I'm sorry for living so long lads.

Let's face it a lot of money spent on housing costs goes straight into the pockets of fat cat, greedy landlords who  charge crazy rents.

Universal credit is often paid to people who just can't live on the minimum wage because they have children. Why are wages so low that they have to be subsidised by the state?

Why do the brits obsess about benefits when at least 8 other countries in Europe spend far more on benefits?

It's all deflection. Keep the peasants fighting each other and kicking those below them and the real fraud at government and boardroom level is ignored.

Let's face it though mate those on benefits are easy targets for any Government. I had brief spells on the dole when Thatcher was in power i call it the Giro years though i did work on the fiddle and topped my benefits up with edible game sold in the winter months and from what i can gather from a few lads who have found themselves out of work through no fault of their own it's a dam sight harder these days than when Thatcher was in power and her government were not really bothered how many were on the dole claiming benefits.

[TRUEBRIT66 1,826]

6 minutes ago, tatsblisters said:

To me this is all bolox about saving money for the country as none of us who get up and do a shift will ever see the benefits of this so called money saving decisions by the government's and the people have a right to be angry when our taxes are more waisted than some poor feker that's fell on hard times or have conditions that makes them unable to work.

I know 7 people on benefits, 5 are on disability and all 5 can 100% work and it is now a lifestyle choice by their own admission. In fact to rub salt in the wound  they think I'm mad working now I've been diagnosed with Parkinsons.  

2 work, 1 full time the other p/t but are topped up by benefits because the pay they get is shocking.

I know who I think deserve it and who don't and I would have no problem stopping/cutting the first 5's benefits to give extra to the 2 who actually work.

If however it didn't make any difference then we may as well all just throw in the towel and go on benefits!       

[jukel123 9,046]

1 minute ago, tatsblisters said:

Let's face it though mate those on benefits are easy targets for any Government. I had brief spells on the dole when Thatcher was in power i call it the Giro years though i did work on the fiddle and topped my benefits up with edible game sold in the winter months and from what i can gather from a few lads who have found themselves out of work through no fault of their own it's a dam sight harder these days than when Thatcher was in power and her government were not really bothered how many were on the dole claiming benefits.

Thatcher encouraged doctors to sign people onto incapacity benefits to disguise the dole figures.

[TOMO 27,336]

Yeh I spent a few years getting a giro...got made redundant 3 times in the late 80.s early 90 s....I can't say I felt well off on benefits...I had to do bits on the side to get by...