Whippet x Suluki greyhound

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12 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

All the breeds discussed have a different running style or gait. It's amazing to me how,when all these breeds are mixed, that you get effective running dogs at all.

Even more weird is how you get an effective lurcher out of pointer crosses.

Pointers have a unique way of moving, part gallop part questing movement. But the cross is effective.

I used to have a collie saturated lurcher that when it saw a hare would run really wide of it and try and herd it.

You could swear it had been taught to  "come by".  It only ever caught one hare .....by accident. It was f****n hopeless. I only fed it because it became a family pet and a complete joker. It answered to Dopey, Dickhead and Arsehole.

 

Had a deerhound cross a good few years back now that only answered to Bawbag haha most obedient dog I ever had an talk about steady, but its whining was next level an after a few month of me calling it a bawbag it stopped answering to Brian haha haha

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9 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

All the breeds discussed have a different running style or gait. It's amazing to me how,when all these breeds are mixed, that you get effective running dogs at all.

Even more weird is how you get an effective lurcher out of pointer crosses.

Pointers have a unique way of moving, part gallop part questing movement. But the cross is effective.

I used to have a collie saturated lurcher that when it saw a hare would run really wide of it and try and herd it.

You could swear it had been taught to  "come by".  It only ever caught one hare .....by accident. It was f****n hopeless. I only fed it because it became a family pet and a complete joker. It answered to Dopey, Dickhead and Arsehole.

 

I’ve never understood why anyone would use a Pointer breed in producing a lurcher ?

Yes, I’ve seen the odd good one, but most half cross running dogs will catch gear .

The Pointer breeds have been selectively bred for over a hundred years NOT to run in on game, so what advantage do they bring to a cross that has to chase and catch ?

Im certainly not knocking anyone who champions this cross, but not so long ago I was offered a gift of a well bred, 8 month old GSP bitch, and I was tempted , but after much thought, I turned it down as it would not have suited me for lurcher work or breeding and would have only took up kennel space, food and my time,

Others will obviously have differing opinions, and I respect them.

Cheers.

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Just now, chartpolski said:

I’ve never understood why anyone would use a Pointer breed in producing a lurcher ?

Yes, I’ve seen the odd good one, but most half cross running dogs will catch gear .

The Pointer breeds have been selectively bred for over a hundred years NOT to run in on game, so what advantage do they bring to a cross that has to chase and catch ?

Im certainly not knocking anyone who champions this cross, but not so long ago I was offered a gift of a well bred, 8 month old GSP bitch, and I was tempted , but after much thought, I turned it down as it would not have suited me for lurcher work or breeding and would have only took up kennel space, food and my time,

Others will obviously have differing opinions, and I respect them.

Cheers.

They quater an hunt up like no other lurcher iv ever saw barring the hound crosses, only drawback I saw of the pointer an it’s only my personal opinion on seeing a few over a few years when they was big in north east 20 year ago, they was liable to open up an yip like a hound as soon as they thought they was getting beat in the run, not the type of have for an around lurcher for but for hill work an hintknh up ole Charlie I reckon it would be first cross I’d go for

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1 hour ago, chartpolski said:

You have to learn how to control your animals ! LOL !

Cheers.

Looks a bonny yoke 

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5 minutes ago, WataWalloper said:

They quater an hunt up like no other lurcher iv ever saw barring the hound crosses, only drawback I saw of the pointer an it’s only my personal opinion on seeing a few over a few years when they was big in north east 20 year ago, they was liable to open up an yip like a hound as soon as they thought they was getting beat in the run, not the type of have for an around lurcher for but for hill work an hintknh up ole Charlie I reckon it would be first cross I’d go for

Yes, the wirehaired cross are seriously  tough dogs. Even the pures will kill fox and deer if they get close. I think the smooth are a different breed entirely and softies in comparison. Wouldn't fancy one, I'm with Charts , daft cross imo.

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1 minute ago, WataWalloper said:

They quater an hunt up like no other lurcher iv ever saw barring the hound crosses, only drawback I saw of the pointer an it’s only my personal opinion on seeing a few over a few years when they was big in north east 20 year ago, they was liable to open up an yip like a hound as soon as they thought they was getting beat in the run, not the type of have for an around lurcher for but for hill work an hintknh up ole Charlie I reckon it would be first cross I’d go for

I love a dog that quarters a field looking for its own quarry, but I go back to the point of Pointers,( forgive the pun) , being bred to NOT run in on quarry. It’s in their genes, it goes against what they are bred for to run in.

As you know, I’m in the North East, and I’ve seen one or two GWP crosses, and yes, they hunted up well but lacked the pace to be considered good on hare , fox, roe on these grounds,

They may prove me completely wrong hunting fox on grounds like hills and mountains, but I maintain that they may be a specialist type, but not an “all round “ lurcher.

Cheers.

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5 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Yes, the wirehaired cross are seriously  tough dogs. Even the pures will kill fox and deer if they get close. I think the smooth are a different breed entirely and softies in comparison. Wouldn't fancy one, I'm with Charts , daft cross imo.

I’m certainly no expert on HPR’s but I agree, I think the GSP and the GWP are different breeds , not the same breed with different coats.

Cheets.

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26 minutes ago, WataWalloper said:

Had a deerhound cross a good few years back now that only answered to Bawbag haha most obedient dog I ever had an talk about steady, but its whining was next level an after a few month of me calling it a bawbag it stopped answering to Brian haha haha

Was that bred by JB out those 2 potlickers he had lol

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9 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

I’m certainly no expert on HPR’s but I agree, I think the GSP and the GWP are different breeds , not the same breed with different coats.

Cheets.

I've seen a few German imports of the GWP on the hills in Scotland. They are 'macho', aloof dogs. They don't want or need human approval. They just want to hunt. A good un that actually stops and points is a real asset. But I've seen some wild feckers which just riot all day. They quest really far out unlike spaniels. With certain owners they really gel. But they are not for every gundog owner.

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12 minutes ago, brambles said:

Was that bred by JB out those 2 potlickers he had lol

Aye mate josie bred it, big dog was a pleasure to have about, when it wasn’t Fcuking whining haha took everythin we showed itC big huge dog tho at 33ats an 100lb an change haha he still got dogs?

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12 minutes ago, brambles said:

Was that bred by JB out those 2 potlickers he had lol

Potlickers it's all coming out now

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39 minutes ago, WataWalloper said:

Had a deerhound cross a good few years back now that only answered to Bawbag haha most obedient dog I ever had an talk about steady, but its whining was next level an after a few month of me calling it a bawbag it stopped answering to Brian haha haha

I had a deer/grey pup which whined if it was not right next to me. Whined and whined even in the hatch of  the car. Whined in the kennel all day and all night even though it had other dogs with it and a heat lamp as it was used to. Was absolutely fine if it was close to me.

Eventually I rehomed it and told the dog shelter it was only to be rehoved with someone who was prepared for a very big 'Velcro' dog.

I felt a shit leaving it but I wasn't set up for a dog with that kind of need at the time.

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6 minutes ago, Bangersanmash said:

Potlickers it's all coming out now

only dogs touch wood i seen get killed by another running big useless cart horse hit the deerhound cross killed it 

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4 minutes ago, WataWalloper said:

Aye mate josie bred it, big dog was a pleasure to have about, when it wasn’t Fcuking whining haha took everythin we showed itC big huge dog tho at 33ats an 100lb an change haha he still got dogs?

Did you have the big fawn pup, glad it done you well, can't remember what the parents names were but I seen them run regularly, dam wasntvto bad bit never rated the sire. He had that Asha bitch and never knew what he had lol

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3 minutes ago, WataWalloper said:

Ayeate josie bred it, big dog was a pleasure to have about, when it wasn’t Fcuking whining haha took everythin we showed itC big huge dog tho at 33ats an 100lb an change haha 

That deerhound x i had was out of David platts deerhound x stuff to a beddy whippet . One of best lamping dogs I've had. Great recall , would bring rabbits back to hand. Jumped most things five bar gates with rabbits in its mouth. Was a good bitch. Didn't miss much. Would creep up to squatters an would creep down edge line of land an just off lamp. Very clever thing. I Can't knock the deerhound x