Goly 1,640 Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago 6 minutes ago, WILF said: Yeah, he probably isn’t worried about Europe having an excess of pine trees on a postage stamp ! Fantastic, so if NATO is only planting pine trees in Finland then what is he worried for?!? Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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WILF 47,861 Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Goly said: Fantastic, so if NATO is only planting pine trees in Finland then what is he worried for?!? Lol It’s way more nuanced than that…… Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TRUEBRIT66 1,691 Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago And whilst Europe is falling over itself to defend against Putin and those horrible Russians another car drives into a crowd in Germany. Odds on it being a Russian driver ? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goly 1,640 Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago 8 minutes ago, WILF said: It’s way more nuanced than that…… Yeah of course, it's nothing to do with the NATO threat is it, it's basically a land grab by a tyrant. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfdog91 7,373 Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago 7 hours ago, WILF said: f**k Ukraine….British & American soldiers have been dying for the last 30 years at the hands of politicians who send them to war whilst at the same time destroying their home and betraying them……Ukraine is a land grab by Europe, plain and simple ! Europe’s (U.K. included) politicians sold off its ability to provide its own energy, make its own things, have a strong and stable identity and culture for votes and money…..and then found they were at the mercy of people who didn’t do that and who don’t actually have their best interests at heart !!……Ukraine and its natural resources go some way to addressing that…and then next stop, Russia ! We have lived with these people in charge long enough to know what they are all about ! Winston Churchill spent a lifetime in service to his nation, a soldier, an adventurer, a politician….when war came he knew a few things Zankensky was on some shit telly programme as a minor celeb not 5 minutes ago and now he is an authority on big military and diplomatic events ????…….pull the other one, the geezer a stooge and getting handsomely rewarded for it while thousands die…….its the set recipe ! Honestly I was and still am for Ukraine to a degree. Don't believe in countries just taking over others because they just want to , sorry we're not in the 1700's anymore, and Russia has been trying to do that with Ukraine for ...idk even how long pretty sure since before the commies took over in. The more I look into this it's just Russia trying to us Ukraine like they used to as a NATO buffer and it's bread basket , don't help Putin still has the ideological hard on for restoring the USSR in some semblance, that along with needing to still look like the big red bear that scared the world for so long. Taking Ukraine back was supposed to put Russia back on a pedestal and Putin back in favor.... But Russia STILL HASN'T LEARNED when it comes to the military...there repeating the same mistakes they did in Georgia, Checheya , ect.... Anyhow I'm getting off topic Anyhow I was good with this for a while then just outta nowhere we start seeing BILLIONS in aid. When again I was ok with but the more you looked into who the money was coming from and who had ties to what ....yeah lotta people are making money and as usual it's in a lot of people best interests to keep this war going. Mean don't get me wrong it's a good eye opener to NATO but ... Yeah 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goly 1,640 Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago 6 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said: And whilst Europe is falling over itself to defend against Putin and those horrible Russians another car drives into a crowd in Germany. Odds on it being a Russian driver ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TRUEBRIT66 1,691 Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Goly said: How many Russian terrorist attacks in Germany since 2010 do you think ? Terrorism in Germany: Past terror attacks and plots | World | News | Express.co.uk Or lets try the UK Terror in the UK: Timeline of attacks | UK News | Sky News Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goly 1,640 Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago Just now, TRUEBRIT66 said: How many Russian terrorist attacks in Germany since 2010 do you think ? Terrorism in Germany: Past terror attacks and plots | World | News | Express.co.uk Or lets try the UK Terror in the UK: Timeline of attacks | UK News | Sky News Another pair of red herrings, what in any way has that got to do with the Ukraine invasion? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,861 Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago 30 minutes ago, Goly said: Yeah of course, it's nothing to do with the NATO threat is it, it's basically a land grab by a tyrant. Exactly……except I think you have your tyrants mixed up. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goly 1,640 Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago 5 minutes ago, WILF said: Exactly……except I think you have your tyrants mixed up. Yeah right, take it you haven't taken much notice to Putin's behaviour over the years? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TRUEBRIT66 1,691 Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago 28 minutes ago, Goly said: Another pair of red herrings, what in any way has that got to do with the Ukraine invasion? Personally I would prefer we spent some of the £13 billion we have given to Ukraine on our homeland defence fighting against the enemy that is here and has actually caused us harm and still is, than against one that hasn't caused us direct harm and is over 3000 miles away. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goly 1,640 Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago (edited) 17 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said: Personally I would prefer we spent some of the £13 billion we have given to Ukraine on our homeland defence fighting against the enemy that is here and has actually caused us harm and still is, than against one that hasn't caused us direct harm and is over 3000 miles away. That's you personally though, Labour don't think like that, neither do the Tories, and neither would Reform. Edited 14 hours ago by Goly 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,382 Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago (edited) This war started in 2014 when the then ELECTED leader of Ukraine was banished backed by the west,then zelensky backed by a billionaire took over an the Ukraine army proceeded to bomb an kill 14,000 Russians in Ukraine,the Ukrainian army are full of nazi battalions,its all zelemskys fault Edited 14 hours ago by Francie, 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,861 Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 45 minutes ago, Goly said: Yeah right, take it you haven't taken much notice to Putin's behaviour over the years? Can’t speak for the reliability because it’s BBC…….but…… Life in Vladimir Putin's Russia explained in 10 charts - BBC News WWW.BBC.COM If you came of age at the start of the Putin era, this is how life has changed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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