Trump Ukraine

[Francie, 2,400]

Just seen zelenski on video saying,he told trump putting is afraid of trump,an now putting knows an everyone started laughing.

He didn't have to tell him trump already knew

[Francie, 2,400]

1 hour ago, Goly said:

Because it's just so easy like that isn't it Francie, Germany has virtually eliminated their reliance on Russia, it's only a matter of time before more follow suit.

They haven't mate,then ain't getting no gas but 33percent of there crude oil is still coming from Russia,not to mention this

EU spends more on Russian oil and gas than financial aid to Ukraine – report | Russia | The Guardian

WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM

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Europe estimated to have bought €22bn of fossil fuels from Russia in 2024 but gave €19bn to...

 

Why don't they just stop altogether an get it somewhere else,there funding putting war.

They don't want to because they want war

[kanny 20,888]

I have a theory that the only reason  starmer and gang don't want to see a end to this war is because they don't want cheap Russian gas back on the market,  it makes a mockery of their expensive net zero bollocks grift.

[Goly 1,691]

7 minutes ago, Francie, said:

They haven't mate,then ain't getting no gas but 33percent of there crude oil is still coming from Russia,not to mention this

EU spends more on Russian oil and gas than financial aid to Ukraine – report | Russia | The Guardian

WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM

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Europe estimated to have bought €22bn of fossil fuels from Russia in 2024 but gave €19bn to...

 

Why don't they just stop altogether an get it somewhere else,there funding putting war.

They don't want to because they want war

 Energy is a necessary commodity, would you be happier if everyone froze to death and tanked their economies, Ukraine would really feel the benefits of that wouldn't they?

[Greyman 29,183]

Beep beep beep lardarse reversing 

[Goly 1,691]

[TRUEBRIT66 1,725]

23 minutes ago, kanny said:

I have a theory that the only reason  starmer and gang don't want to see a end to this war is because they don't want cheap Russian gas back on the market,  it makes a mockery of their expensive net zero bollocks grift.

It cost the UK £250 million to turn off the wind turbines in the last 2 months as the grid cant handle the energy being created, you couldnt make it up.

[iworkwhippets 12,746]

What this country needs , is a Hitler type of bloke, sort things out, it's coming to summat when an elderly chap like me is afraid to put kettle on fer a cup.of tea, so boil a pan of water on.my elec cooker, eh, brains or what,   no dementia here

[kanny 20,888]

10 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

It cost the UK £250 million to turn off the wind turbines in the last 2 months as the grid cant handle the energy being created, you couldnt make it up.

Like I say it's just a theory, but what I can tell you for fact is not one country involved in this is in it for the good of Ukraine or the Ukrainian people,  they are all seeing opportunities to make money one way or another 

[kanny 20,888]

6 minutes ago, iworkwhippets said:

What this country needs , is a Hitler type of bloke, sort things out, it's coming to summat when an elderly chap like me is afraid to put kettle on fer a cup.of tea, so boil a pan of water on.my elec cooker, eh, brains or what,   no dementia here

 

[iworkwhippets 12,746]

5 minutes ago, kanny said:

Like I say it's just a theory, but what I can tell you for fact is not one country involved in this is in it for the good of Ukraine or the Ukrainian people,  they are all seeing opportunities to make money one way or another 

Now then kanny my son, i look.upon.you as one of the sensible chaps, on this forum, a canny lad ,   greed is the word you are looking for, the world is riddled and run on greed, take me fer instance, I've not long had roast beef n.3 veg, wi bread n.butter , yes bread n.butter cos I'm.a greedy pig, fer afters ,    bread n butter pudding, I'm already contemplating what's fer tea.                          Greed 

[Goly 1,691]

A compulsive liar, a Russian agent and an idiot walk in to a bar. The barman says "Good evening Mr Trump."

Edited 18 hours ago by Goly
Or was it Greyman?

[mackay 3,425]

1 hour ago, Goly said:

 Energy is a necessary commodity, would you be happier if everyone froze to death and tanked their economies, Ukraine would really feel the benefits of that wouldn't they?

What if Russia are using the money from the sale of oil and gas to finance the war against Ukraine?.

[Goly 1,691]

1 minute ago, mackay said:

What if Russia are using the money from the sale of oil and gas to finance the war against Ukraine?.

They have been buying energy out of necessity, I'll ask you, would it benefit Ukraine if the likes of Germany & France had no energy, tell me how that would help them aid Ukraine?

If you think about it, it makes less sense for Russia to sell to the EU than it does for the EU to buy from Russia. When you look at the figures, Ukraine gets about a 3 to 1 advantage. Basically Russia is paying for it's own destruction. If it wasn't for the fact that the Russian economy is on it's arse they would quit selling to the EU. 

[mackay 3,425]

5 minutes ago, Goly said:

They have been buying energy out of necessity, I'll ask you, would it benefit Ukraine if the likes of Germany & France had no energy, tell me how that would help them aid Ukraine?

If you think about it, it makes less sense for Russia to sell to the EU than it does for the EU to buy from Russia. When you look at the figures, Ukraine gets about a 3 to 1 advantage. Basically Russia is paying for it's own destruction. If it wasn't for the fact that the Russian economy is on it's arse they would quit selling to the EU. 

I'm well aware of that. However whether you agree or not by buying Russian fuel we are financing their war against Ukraine. So basically we're right behind Ukraine until we're not.