Trump Ukraine

[mackay 3,425]

3 minutes ago, Goly said:

What has that got to do with the war effort, another red herring.

 A few things actually, firstly being shafted at every level by the eu because we voted  (with a democratic referendum) to leave the EU, now we're their mate and fcuk America and Trump because it suits them as he's refusing to bankroll them now. Possibly and to me more importantly, flooding Britain and a lot of European countries with unfettered unchecked levels of immigration from countries that are as much if not more of a danger to us than any fcuking Russian. They've systematically and in full view done more damage to Britain and Europe than Putin. Difference with our european leaders they're doing it from the inside out like a fcuking cancerous tumour. The irony, sending British troops to help Ukraine whilst the British (and European people) are being killed regurarly by an enemy in their own country.

[Born Hunter 17,820]

6 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

let’s keep ripping ukrainian kids off the street and forcing them to die on the front line then aye ? 

Yes please, that sounds delightful. 

[TRUEBRIT66 1,725]

1 minute ago, Goly said:

Cool story bruh.

No come on what is it, one minute the USA aren't funding it properly in which case we don't really need them meaning the EU goes it alone continuing funding a war that cant be won whilst thousands more die or we need the USA for security and a possible peace deal?    

[mC HULL 13,796]

1 minute ago, Born Hunter said:

Yes please, that sounds delightful. 

it’s what is happening while davos and the c**ts no one had voted for keep it going i was trump i’d send them to clear shop davos zelensky starmer all eu leaders bullet behind the ear or polonium 210 on a drink all them world be far better place to live 

[Goly 1,691]

10 minutes ago, mackay said:

 A few things actually, firstly being shafted at every level by the eu because we voted  (with a democratic referendum) to leave the EU, now we're their mate and fcuk America and Trump because it suits them as he's refusing to bankroll them now. Possibly and to me more importantly, flooding Britain and a lot of European countries with unfettered unchecked levels of immigration from countries that are as much if not more of a danger to us than any fcuking Russian. They've systematically and in full view done more damage to Britain and Europe than Putin. Difference with our european leaders they're doing it from the inside out like a fcuking cancerous tumour. The irony, sending British troops to help Ukraine whilst the British (and European people) are being killed regurarly by an enemy in their own country.

Again, nothing to do with the war in Ukraine. 

It's like saying we shouldn't have fought in WW2 because in the 30's the government introduced means tested benefits much to the anger of the working classes, what about the Jarrow Marches the Hunger Marches? Public opinion on 30's governments wasn't the most optimistic, so, feck WW2 right?

Edited Tuesday at 10:47 by Goly

[Goly 1,691]

5 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

No come on what is it, one minute the USA aren't funding it properly in which case we don't really need them meaning the EU goes it alone continuing funding a war that cant be won whilst thousands more die or we need the USA for security and a possible peace deal?    

Who said they aren't funding it properly? What I'm saying is per capita they are not doing more than anyone, or are you saying the graph is a lie?

[mC HULL 13,796]

2 minutes ago, Goly said:

Again, nothing to do with the war in Ukraine. 

It's like saying we shouldn't have fought in WW2 because in the 30's the government introduced means tested benefits much to the anger of the working classes, what about the Jarrow Marches the Hunger Marches? 

good luck ukraine and the eu finally time to reap what you sow 

[mC HULL 13,796]

Just now, Goly said:

Who said they aren't funding it properly? What I'm saying is per capita they are not doing more than anyone, or are you saying the graph is a lie?

all the graphs you put up a lies mate look at covid lol were sandy ? could admit he was wrong so dissapeared typical lefty baby mentality 

[Born Hunter 17,820]

13 minutes ago, riohog said:

not sure im getting this right , but i think what trump is saying is if they had mineral rights in ukrain , with american personal .it would detare putin from invading and the chance of u s personel getting killed  ,    if us personel were killed all hell would break loose .

Yeah it would and makes sense normally. But all this time we’ve been told that all the neocons do is rape other countries of their resources and in this war that it’s the encroachment of NATO/EU/‘the west’ that provoked the Russian invasion.

This deal is the full realisation of that! I don’t know what the solution here is but what’s being touted is hypocrisy. But even accepting that as now necessary for peace, I think the way this administration is behaving has reduced US power projection to aircraft carriers and tariffs. The day before the Zelenskyy pantomime Trump announced how he would rush to our rescue if ever needed. Do we still believe that?

Edited Tuesday at 10:49 by Born Hunter

[Goly 1,691]

Just now, mC HULL said:

all the graphs you put up a lies mate look at covid lol were sandy ? could admit he was wrong so dissapeared typical lefty baby mentality 

I get it, the graphs that suit your narrative are the only ones that are correct? Lol

[TRUEBRIT66 1,725]

1 minute ago, Goly said:

Who said they aren't funding it properly? What I'm saying is per capita they are not doing more than anyone, or are you saying the graph is a lie?

Nope I'm saying its a red herring. 

[mC HULL 13,796]

8 minutes ago, Goly said:

I get it, the graphs that suit your narrative are the only ones that are correct? Lol

i don’t read graphs there one for each side lol 

[riohog 5,766]

6 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

Yeah it would and makes sense normally. But all this time we’ve been told that all the neocons do is rape other countries of their resources and in this war that it’s the encroachment of NATO/EU/‘the west’ that provoked the Russian invasion.

This deal is the full realisation of that! I don’t know what the solution here is but what’s being touted is hypocrisy. But even accepting that as now necessary for peace, I think the way this administration is behaving has reduced US power projection to aircraft carriers and tariffs. The day before the Zelenskyy pantomime Trump announced how he would rush to our rescue if ever needed. Do we still believe that?

thats just theb way it is ,trump is not going to keep sending armmement to ukrain without some kind of payback,he is seing the mineral right as a payback for security.but im sure putin wants the mineral rights aswell thats why he wants ukrain back in his control  .

[Goly 1,691]

Bunch of slack jawed faggots on here.

 

[Greyman 29,182]

56 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

Trump talks about peace and wants a resolution to the war, the EU want to continue funding a war that cant be won and are constantly using aggressive language. 

Amazing how people view things differently.  

Some people have shite in there eyes, some just like to argue and some just like the last word on everything regardless and every now and again you get a complete arsewipe with all the above traits