Trump Ukraine

[kanny 20,868]

Add to that the 3 biggest EU  economies Germany, Italy and France are not even reaching the agreed 2% in defence spending....

[Goly 1,657]

10 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

Trump talks about peace and wants a resolution to the war, the EU want to continue funding a war that cant be won and are constantly using aggressive language. 

Amazing how people view things differently.  

Trump wants a business deal, what peace guarantees has he given Ukraine?

[TRUEBRIT66 1,707]

4 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

the eu and uk are controlled by davos so was america just about trump changes it around hes saved the west from becoming communist were only 5 year off been no return 

Starmer has publicly said he prefers Davos over Westminster, crazy the UK prime minster can say that and the country accepts it. 

[mackay 3,417]

46 minutes ago, Goly said:

He talks about Ukraine threatening WW3, it's that treacherous cnut who's risking all out war by putting the EU in this situation.

Is that the same EU thats been shafting us in any and every way possible since we voted for Brexit?.

[kanny 20,868]

2 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

Starmer has publicly said he prefers Davos over Westminster, crazy the UK prime minster can say that and the country accepts it. 

 

[Goly 1,657]

1 minute ago, mackay said:

Is that the same EU thats been shafting us in any and every way possible since we voted for Brexit?.

What has that got to do with the war effort, another red herring.

[TRUEBRIT66 1,707]

2 minutes ago, Goly said:

Trump wants a business deal, what peace guarantees has he given Ukraine?

I think hes been very clever. Russia will not allow Nato troops in Ukraine end of, Trump moves USA "workers" in to mine the metals, Russia cannot step a foot on that soil. A USA backstop in all intents and purposes.   

[TRUEBRIT66 1,707]

2 minutes ago, Goly said:

What has that got to do with the war effort, another red herring.

Its all connected, do you view everything you don't agree with as a Red Herring ? 

[Goly 1,657]

15 minutes ago, kanny said:

Add to that the 3 biggest EU  economies Germany, Italy and France are not even reaching the agreed 2% in defence spending....

The EU needs to do more, especially now.

As for the poor Americans putting in all the effort where EU counties do nothing.

 

[Goly 1,657]

4 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

Its all connected, do you view everything you don't agree with as a Red Herring ? 

Yes, when they have nothing to do with the matter.

[Born Hunter 17,820]

2 minutes ago, Goly said:

Trump wants a business deal, what peace guarantees has he given Ukraine?

There aren’t any guarantees now. The US word in foreign policy is close to meaningless now. The only ‘guarantee’ would be giving them something to lose. They need skin in the game and with their growing isolationism would they really roll armour across Europe for mining rights? Also, surely that kind of deal would be a huge escalation from Putins point of view. That’s not a buffer zone or Russian hegemony.

[TRUEBRIT66 1,707]

1 minute ago, Goly said:

The EU needs to do more, especially now.

As for the poor Americans putting in all the effort where EU counties do nothing.

 

Red Herring that graph mate.

No problem if the USA pull out then wont effect us too much !

[mC HULL 13,775]

2 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

There aren’t any guarantees now. The US word in foreign policy is close to meaningless now. The only ‘guarantee’ would be giving them something to lose. They need skin in the game and with their growing isolationism would they really roll armour across Europe for mining rights? Also, surely that kind of deal would be a huge escalation from Putins point of view. That’s not a buffer zone or Russian hegemony.

let’s keep ripping ukrainian kids off the street and forcing them to die on the front line then aye ? 

[Goly 1,657]

1 minute ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

Red Herring that graph mate.

No problem if the USA pull out then wont effect us too much !

Cool story bruh.

[riohog 5,760]

3 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

There aren’t any guarantees now. The US word in foreign policy is close to meaningless now. The only ‘guarantee’ would be giving them something to lose. They need skin in the game and with their growing isolationism would they really roll armour across Europe for mining rights? Also, surely that kind of deal would be a huge escalation from Putins point of view. That’s not a buffer zone or Russian hegemony.

not sure im getting this right , but i think what trump is saying is if they had mineral rights in ukrain , with american personal .it would detare putin from invading and the chance of u s personel getting killed  ,    if us personel were killed all hell would break loose .