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[WILF 47,774]

3 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

I just see it in some cases as lazy labelling now almost like using the "mental health issues" as the new "racism" card, kind of shuts down any discussion surrounding it and you mustn't question it which gives people with genuine mental health issues a real discredit. 

I have to say that I am not being disparaging to anyone else's views, opinions or experiences with mental health issues and genuinely sympathise with anyone who lives with this in their life, I just struggle understanding it with my experiences.      

Honest comment mate, fair enough.

[TRUEBRIT66 1,688]

5 minutes ago, WILF said:

I’m not going to lower this thread and a decent conversation to a level of our normal playground nonsense so I say this with total calm sincerity:

I personally think that question (as a wider question, not a personal attack on you) is an outrageous question……I wouldn’t for one second want to “engineer” my boy not to be my boy…..that’s just my opinion. 

Brilliant post and kind of relates to my experiences. I feel we are not "genetically engineering" our way out of this issue we seem to be "medicating" our way out of it at a obscene level which is my personal concern.  

[Bangersanmash 3,418]

9 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

I just see it in some cases as lazy labelling now almost like using the "mental health issues" as the new "racism" card, kind of shuts down any discussion surrounding it and you mustn't question it which gives people with genuine mental health issues a real discredit. 

I have to say that I am not being disparaging to anyone else's views, opinions or experiences with mental health issues and genuinely sympathise with anyone who lives with this in their life, I just struggle understanding it with my experiences.      

Graft helps with depression. Having a crack with lads. An no better feeling in summer up on the roofs top off feeling that sun on ya back. If you feel sick first thing thought's running away in ya head. Soon has your up there on a grand day. Soon go away. 

Edited yesterday at 10:21 by Bangersanmash

[WILF 47,774]

Just now, TRUEBRIT66 said:

Brilliant post and kind of relates to my experiences. I feel we are not "genetically engineering" our way out of this issue we seem to be "medicating" our way out of it at an obscene level which is my personal concern.  

 I agree, but I also take the view that what I believe and what works for my situation may be different to what works and is needed in other peoples situation.

ASD, like most family issues I suppose, is unique to each person and situation……everyone’s just doing the best they can. 

[Goly 1,546]

10 minutes ago, WILF said:

I’m not going to lower this thread and a decent conversation to a level of our normal playground nonsense so I say this with total calm sincerity:

I personally think that question (as a wider question, not a personal attack on you) is an outrageous question……I wouldn’t for one second want to “engineer” my boy not to be my boy…..that’s just my opinion. 

Is it though, you're replying from your current perspective, would your perspective be the same at the sperm & egg level, before a deeply ingrained love was developed?

Would any parents, at the preconceived level, refuse any genetic engineering if they discovered that there's a high chance that their child would be disabled if they didn't remove certain genes at the sperm & egg stage?

It's a question society will have to ponder because this is just around the corner.

[Goly 1,546]

4 minutes ago, Bangersanmash said:

Graft helps with depression. Having a crack with lads. An no better feeling in summer up on the roofs top off feeling that sun on ya back. If you feel sick first thing thought's running away in ya head. Soon has your up there on a grand day. Soon go away. 

Mate, I don't think you understand what depression is.

[TOMO 26,859]

7 minutes ago, Goly said:

Is it though, you're replying from your current perspective, would your perspective be the same at the sperm & egg level, before a deeply ingrained love was developed?

Would any parents, at the preconceived level, refuse any genetic engineering if they discovered that there's a high chance that their child would be disabled if they didn't remove certain genes at the sperm & egg stage?

It's a question society will have to ponder because this is just around the corner.

Genetic engineering.....you should definitely sign up

[WILF 47,774]

8 minutes ago, Goly said:

Is it though, you're replying from your current perspective, would your perspective be the same at the sperm & egg level, before a deeply ingrained love was developed?

Would any parents, at the preconceived level, refuse any genetic engineering if they discovered that there's a high chance that their child would be disabled if they didn't remove certain genes at the sperm & egg stage?

It's a question society will have to ponder because this is just around the corner.

As you know, you have all sorts of tests during pregnancy.

You also know your own family history, my niece for instance has Down’s syndrome…..of course it flashes across your mind.

But no, I don’t think we should play god…..everything happens for a reason, we may not want it too, we may not understand why, but I believe it does.

This is a pretty deep question for me, and one I don’t want to bore everyone with but what happens to “you” has a ripple effect in the wider community, world, universe for good or bad…..if we engineer that away we engineer away life itself. 
 

I’ll stop there or it will turn into a novel ! lol 

Edited yesterday at 10:32 by WILF

[Goly 1,546]

2 minutes ago, TOMO said:

Genetic engineering.....you should definitely sign up

You should have mate, then with all that gym time you'd look like current me.

[TOMO 26,859]

1 minute ago, Goly said:

You should have mate, then with all that gym time you'd look like current me.

f**k that....why would I want to be dragged round by an Akita...lol

[WILF 47,774]

Having experienced two systems, and from what I can make out, I think in the U.K. we should focus less on medication and genetic engineering and actually throw some resources at helping people in the family situation……people caring for relatives who are ASD or sick or disabled get absolute f**k all help worth the name in that country, financially they don’t get enough to feed a canary every week ! 
This then forces them and the people they care for into situations that are pure hell for them in order just to survive in a system that can’t stop robbing people ! 
It’s disgusting and even more disgusting when they can conjure billions out of their arse for absolute f***ing nonsense ! 
Giving people the means and the help and the breaks to take care of their own would ultimately be cheaper anyway but it don’t fit “the box” so they are abused instead. 

[WILF 47,774]

The different faces of autism:

[Bangersanmash 3,418]

52 minutes ago, Goly said:

Mate, I don't think you understand what depression is.

I've had the worst of depression mate after my opp. Going from lifting decent weight in gym , dead lifting , clean & jerks , squats. to not been able to do nothing to do with weights for a good 18 months maybe longer with my stomach been opened up from that f***ing ulcer. Proper did me. Could lift roof tiles up on ladders. A was lifting 12 Marley's up at a time. Was physically fit. Like a say i ended up with PTSD. Was having nightmare after the op. I had one where my son had no skin on his back. That was frightening. 

[THE STIFFMEISTER 16,275]

35 minutes ago, WILF said:

The different faces of autism:

Out of likes 

he looks so much like the big lanky streak of misery on that last photo is unreal 

[TOMO 26,859]

1 hour ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

Out of likes 

he looks so much like the big lanky streak of misery on that last photo is unreal 

Hopefully grow out of it...lol