Possibly after a stud this year

[WataWalloper 1,097]

3 minutes ago, scotty12 said:

My point exactly there's got to be standards met 

Honestly tho, 2 litter brothers, both doing job, one better than other tho, but lesser dog throws better pups, who would you use?

[The drover 430]

5 hours ago, scotty12 said:

It's fine pal long as you're happy what's in your kennels that's the main thing. 
 

if the father of your dog was average at best with not the greatest of mouths then so be it I wouldn't have bred of him but each to their own as long as the owner coined it in and the lads were happy with the offspring 

Scotty , your well wide of the mark buddy . Romeo had average mouth at best . But still a very good dog . Stay for a month and fast . Got the job done . But I've seen and owned better . His main strength was as a stud . Been to 20 odd bitches and a high % of goodens . Some of the sought after stud dogs of same time were double the dough and seen over 100 bitches yet less goodens out there per capita . I listened to many a phone call with his owner knocking back many bitches . He defo could have coined it in but didn't.  I used him for his bloodline power and steam . The man only took £300 when it was agreed £500 . His owner told me I was a working man and he didn't want any more than 3 . We've been best of friends since .

[Goly 1,608]

2 minutes ago, The drover said:

Scotty , your well wide of the mark buddy . Romeo had average mouth at best . But still a very good dog . Stay for a month and fast . Got the job done . But I've seen and owned better . His main strength was as a stud . Been to 20 odd bitches and a high % of goodens . Some of the sought after stud dogs of same time were double the dough and seen over 100 bitches yet less goodens out there per capita . I listened to many a phone call with his owner knocking back many bitches . He defo could have coined it in but didn't.  I used him for his bloodline power and steam . The man only took £300 when it was agreed £500 . His owner told me I was a working man and he didn't want any more than 3 . We've been best of friends since .

Did you ever consider PG's dogs, if looks equals power, you'll not see any coursing breds look as strong.

[WataWalloper 1,097]

12 minutes ago, Goly said:

Did you ever consider PG's dogs, if looks equals power, you'll not see any coursing breds look as strong.

Scout was deffo a producer of lurchers, not sure about coursing dogs

[The drover 430]

12 minutes ago, Goly said:

Did you ever consider PG's dogs, if looks equals power, you'll not see any coursing breds look as strong.

Miles contacted me on here when I was considering romeo.  He private messaged me saying he had all the potential studs at a bit of permission.  Said they were all getting dragged around in slop . Took romeo last on the wettest day and said he had them tied up bullying them . I had no reason to disbelieve him as he putt Romeo to his belle . Also after chatting loads I realised robbie was a genuine fella . I enquired about another at same time and after a long message stating all about the bitch to be line I got a simple £1000 back . Nothing else.  Whereas romeos owner had plenty of questions about the bitch before agreeing.  That Sat well with me . 

[Goly 1,608]

3 minutes ago, The drover said:

Miles contacted me on here when I was considering romeo.  He private messaged me saying he had all the potential studs at a bit of permission.  Said they were all getting dragged around in slop . Took romeo last on the wettest day and said he had them tied up bullying them . I had no reason to disbelieve him as he putt Romeo to his belle . Also after chatting loads I realised robbie was a genuine fella . I enquired about another at same time and after a long message stating all about the bitch to be line I got a simple £1000 back . Nothing else.  Whereas romeos owner had plenty of questions about the bitch before agreeing.  That Sat well with me . 

Says it all really doesn't it mate.

[The drover 430]

5 hours ago, mC HULL said:

i loved watching that alistairs bitch quality mate 

Muddys run in Scotland mc 

[Goly 1,608]

36 minutes ago, The drover said:

Miles contacted me on here when I was considering romeo.  He private messaged me saying he had all the potential studs at a bit of permission.  Said they were all getting dragged around in slop . Took romeo last on the wettest day and said he had them tied up bullying them . I had no reason to disbelieve him as he putt Romeo to his belle . Also after chatting loads I realised robbie was a genuine fella . I enquired about another at same time and after a long message stating all about the bitch to be line I got a simple £1000 back . Nothing else.  Whereas romeos owner had plenty of questions about the bitch before agreeing.  That Sat well with me . 

The dog Scotty has put over his bitch must be a respected dog then if he bred it to his bitch. 

[Bangersanmash 3,483]

5 hours ago, Gilbey said:

Your always on about 20 year ago this, 20 year ago that. You were new to it as @penny wise remember because i got one of mine at the time, she isn't 20 lol was ferreting on sat with her...

I've had about 7 dogs you plum. A was new to this f***ing forum an its not changed still full of f***ing idiots. Alot of decent lads but some f***ing whoppers. What dog did you have back in day. ? Get some images up ? 

[Bangersanmash 3,483]

3 hours ago, WataWalloper said:

Best dogs ain’t always best producers, and vice versa, surely that’s common knowledge by now haha 

A will agree with you there. A know some travelling lads off the common near me that have some coursing dogs. That aren't named dogs. They've had the same breeding lines going for years there own. Added odd bit of new blood or similar blood from other family members dogs. These guys don't make themselves be known dont have too. But there kennelling decent dogs. 

[Goly 1,608]

9 minutes ago, Bangersanmash said:

A will agree with you there. A know some travelling lads off the common near me that have some coursing dogs. That aren't named dogs. They've had the same breeding lines going for years there own. Added odd bit of new blood or similar blood from other family members dogs. These guys don't make themselves be known dont have too. But there kennelling decent dogs. 

How would you know it's the dog though and not the bitch. I mean how many people put their best dog over a bitch, see it fails and then uses an inferior dog over the same bitch and finds it clicks? 

[Bangersanmash 3,483]

2 hours ago, WataWalloper said:

No matter how many names are in your ped your kidding yourself to think every dog in the line was the best of the best, and likes been said there’s lots dogs that don’t even get seen out, just lads taking lads words for it . Where do you draw the line? Do you think every dog in the line has a great mouth? 

Nobody puts the work in when pups. Soon as the pups had its jabs from a young age have them in the local field local wood , rabbit skin on abit of thin rope running it about on the floor. As a pup they want to think it's a game but get them using their mouths striking at it. Ive had pups at a young age running and striking snapping at it. Brillant to watch them that young. You can see the prey drive head working. Moving it side to side learning to box. But makesure you let them get it. Otherwise you'll dishearten the pup. Once it's grabbed it a few times praise it. Throw dummy with skin around. Call pup back praise it when recalls good retrieve the dummy. That helps having to walk quater or half a mile over land when the dogs older. It's okay ferreting with a lurcher or lamping on small land. You can walk a few yards to the kill. But with this game I'm not into walking. Just stay where you are get the dog to bring the kill back. 

[Bangersanmash 3,483]

4 minutes ago, Goly said:

How would you know it's the dog though and not the bitch. I mean how many people put their best dog over a bitch, see it fails and then uses an inferior dog over the same bitch and finds it clicks? 

It's like pulling straws mate it's not nailed on. It's what you show your dogs an time you put in from a young age. 

[mC HULL 13,734]

1 hour ago, The drover said:

Muddys run in Scotland mc 

was she descent mate 

[Goly 1,608]

19 minutes ago, Bangersanmash said:

Nobody puts the work in when pups. Soon as the pups had its jabs from a young age have them in the local field local wood , rabbit skin on abit of thin rope running it about on the floor. As a pup they want to think it's a game but get them using their mouths striking at it. Ive had pups at a young age running and striking snapping at it. Brillant to watch them that young. You can see the prey drive head working. Moving it side to side learning to box. But makesure you let them get it. Otherwise you'll dishearten the pup. Once it's grabbed it a few times praise it. Throw dummy with skin around. Call pup back praise it when recalls good retrieve the dummy. That helps having to walk quater or half a mile over land when the dogs older. It's okay ferreting with a lurcher or lamping on small land. You can walk a few yards to the kill. But with this game I'm not into walking. Just stay where you are get the dog to bring the kill back. 

Isn't that rudimentary training for any lurcher?

Edited Tuesday at 16:53 by Goly