Starmer Ukraine

[Goly 1,420]

7 minutes ago, dogmandont said:

The EU and the biden administration wanted the same thing as trump they were just prepared for a much higher human cost. 

That cnut Churchill wants exhuming and hanging, and then hanging again for good measure.

[dogmandont 9,933]

25 minutes ago, Goly said:

That cnut Churchill wants exhuming and hanging, and then hanging again for good measure.

You honestly don't have a clue how the world works or you do but the fact you have ties to Eastern Europe is the reason you get all emotional on the matter, your a bright fella but fcuk me use your noggin, Europe doesn't give a fcuk about it's own people never mind the Ukrainians, there only involved for their own gains, a deaf Steve Wonder would understand that. 

[Goly 1,420]

1 minute ago, dogmandont said:

You honestly don't have a clue how the world works or you do but the fact you have ties to Eastern Europe is the reason you get all emotional on the matter, your a bright fella but fcuk me use your noggin, Europe doesn't give a fcuk about it's own people never mind the Ukrainians, there only involved for their own gains, a deaf Steve Wonder would understand that. 

Oh but i do it's just that you're a hypocrite, or are you saying we didn't get involved in WW2 for our own gain and we actually did so because we have morals and we wouldn't stand for a tyrant doing as he pleases?

My Mrs is Polish, they don't particularly get on with the Ukrainians so you're wrong, again as usual. Lol 

 

[dogmandont 9,933]

Just now, Goly said:

Oh but i do it's just that you're a hypocrite, or are you saying we didn't get involved in WW2 for our own gain and we actually did so because we have morals and we wouldn't stand for a tyrant doing as he pleases?

My Mrs is Polish, they don't particularly get on with the Ukrainians so you're wrong, again as usual. Lol 

 

I live in a part of Ireland that was partitioned from the rest by a tyrant so i can speak on the matter with first hand experience, I also understand how these things work and the world isn't fair and the man with the biggest stick rules the roost and there's f**k all you can do about it. 

You can throw as many hissy fits as you want but it won't change the fact that Ukraine and it's resources will get split up between the west and Russia because Putin wasn't going to let the west have it all for themselves. 

[Goly 1,420]

4 minutes ago, dogmandont said:

I live in a part of Ireland that was partitioned from the rest by a tyrant so i can speak on the matter with first hand experience, I also understand how these things work and the world isn't fair and the man with the biggest stick rules the roost and there's f**k all you can do about it. 

You can throw as many hissy fits as you want but it won't change the fact that Ukraine and it's resources will get split up between the west and Russia because Putin wasn't going to let the west have it all for themselves. 

He hasn't been ruling the roost though has he, in fact he can't even defeat Ukraine with our help and we haven't even put any boots on the ground. 

If Trump had anything about him he could send Russia packing but he's taking the cowards way out by the looks of things.

[dogmandont 9,933]

1 minute ago, Goly said:

He hasn't been ruling the roost though has he, in fact he can't even defeat Ukraine with our help and we haven't even put any boots on the ground. 

If Trump had anything about him he could send Russia packing but he's taking the cowards way out by the looks of things.

How would trump send them packing, explain exactly how he'd go about that without a huge loss of life on both sides?

 

[Goly 1,420]

5 minutes ago, dogmandont said:

How would trump send them packing, explain exactly how he'd go about that without a huge loss of life on both sides?

 

American losses? No chance, the Russian army is not even in their league. As for Ukrainian and Russian, they are not playing tiddlywinks, war costs lives. 

But it's quite simple really, the war could end tomorrow, Putin can retreat from the country he has actually invaded, it's not the other way around.

You'd think having had occupiers on your doorstep you'd actually have a bit of sense and sympathy about you, I'm sure you'd have  been fine with us Brits razing Ireland to the ground, which we could have done if we were that way inclined.

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[dogmandont 9,933]

3 minutes ago, Goly said:

American losses? No chance, the Russian army is not even in their league. As for Ukrainian and Russian, they are not playing tiddlywinks, war costs lives. 

But it's quite simple really, the war could end tomorrow, Putin can retreat from the country he has actually invaded, it's not the other way around.

You'd think having had occupiers on your doorstep you'd actually have a bit of sense and sympathy about you, I'm sure you'd have  been fine with us Brits razing Ireland to the ground, which we could have done if we were that way inclined.

You haven't read much Irish history have you. 

Why would the yanks put that much effort into Ukraine when they get what they wanted from the beginning by just negotiating with Putin. 

And while we're at it why hasn't the rest of Europe told trump to go fcuk himself there'll be no negotiations and pushed their own forces into Ukraine. 

[Bangersanmash 3,365]

45 minutes ago, dogmandont said:

I live in a part of Ireland that was partitioned from the rest by a tyrant so i can speak on the matter with first hand experience, I also understand how these things work and the world isn't fair and the man with the biggest stick rules the roost and there's f**k all you can do about it. 

You can throw as many hissy fits as you want but it won't change the fact that Ukraine and it's resources will get split up between the west and Russia because Putin wasn't going to let the west have it all for themselves. 

That's all it's about now with Trump business lol minerals. Russia gets abit Trump gets abit. China won't be happy now. Hopefully Russia an China will have a fallout now. . Because China wanted abit. An Trump defo won't have that. So Trump f***ing off Europe an NATO. China will see that as a win for them. But not a win for Trump being on his own. If Europe don't help. America needs NATO. NATO needs America. 

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[Goly 1,420]

6 minutes ago, dogmandont said:

You haven't read much Irish history have you. 

Why would the yanks put that much effort into Ukraine when they get what they wanted from the beginning by just negotiating with Putin. 

And while we're at it why hasn't the rest of Europe told trump to go fcuk himself there'll be no negotiations and pushed their own forces into Ukraine. 

Mate, you wouldn't have stood a chance if the British really wanted all out war, who are you trying to kid? Lol

And that's what I'm hoping happens, if Trump wants to distance himself from the UK and the EU. The trouble is the EU can't agree on what day it is, but they should call his bluff. As I mentioned earlier, over a dozen more European countries are putting more in to the war, that narcissistic prick obviously doesn't know that.

[Goly 1,420]

5 minutes ago, Bangersanmash said:

That's all it's about now with Trump business lol minerals. Russia gets abit Trump gets abit. China won't be happy now. Hopefully Russia an China will have a fallout now. . Because China wanted abit. An Trump defo won't have that. So Trump f***ing off Europe an NATO. China will see that as a win for them. But not a win for Trump being on his own. If Europe don't help. America needs NATO. NATO needs America. 

That's what I'd like to see happen, if China can gain strong ties with the EU they would drop Russia like a piece of hot coal.

Trump can kiss goodbye to his European bases and he can go alone with the Motherland. Lol

He'd be assassinated long before that could ever happen though.

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[Goly 1,420]

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[mC HULL 13,572]

1 hour ago, Goly said:

That's what I'd like to see happen, if China can gain strong ties with the EU they would drop Russia like a piece of hot coal.

Trump can kiss goodbye to his European bases and he can go alone with the Motherland. Lol

He'd be assassinated long before that could ever happen though.

good the quicker he fucks them all off the better the world will be in peace quicker that way  ffs there’s only ever one country that’s involved in every war the last 70 year 

trumps a breath of fresh air finally some sense who will reason with putin instead of trying to bully him 

[Goly 1,420]

2 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

good the quicker he fucks them all off the better the world will be in peace quicker that way  ffs there’s only ever one country that’s involved in every war the last 70 year 

trumps a breath of fresh air finally some sense who will reason with putin instead of trying to bully him 

It won't be good for the US if they alienate themselves from the rest of the world and only have Russia on side.

[mC HULL 13,572]

Just now, Goly said:

It won't be good for the US if they alienate themselves from the rest of the world and only have Russia on side.

it will be f***ing superb 

russia the last hope for a normal european white race and trump finally going after the c**ts in deep state that control europe and the usa i hope between them they f***ing clear house any way they can i’d join up tomorrow