WataWalloper 2,165 Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 8 minutes ago, jukel123 said: I've lived in Scotland over 50 years and often been called an English b*****d. Catholic b*****d too. But, to be fair, I am a bit of a c**t. So fair play. Aye but that was your in-laws calling you jt haha that’s a term of endearment where we come from haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,843 Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 It’s always an Irishman that comes out with the “the English are hated all over the world” Today alone I’ve had separate calls with Aussies, swedes, Flemish and Canadians. Everyone gets on well, in fact I generally think it’s a defining trait of the English. Were still one of the highest rank soft power nations in the world because our ‘brand’ is desired not hated. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 9,048 Posted February 20 Author Report Share Posted February 20 1 minute ago, WataWalloper said: Aye but that was your in-laws calling you jt haha that’s a term of endearment where we come from haha No you're wrong bud, it was my best mates and my kids. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 9,048 Posted February 20 Author Report Share Posted February 20 (edited) The ironic thing is I've picked up a scots twang over the years. So I'm called a scotch c**t by my English 'friends' when I cross the border. When I correct them and explain they should call me a Scots c**t and not a scotch c**t because the latter refers to whisky or to scottish produce, they still call me a scotch c**t for trying to educate them. What can you do? Edited February 20 by jukel123 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,526 Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 3 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Why did your think they didn’t invade ? Why would he brother ?……I’d imagine those small Baltic states combined don’t have a tenth of the value of Ukraine…..the very, very massive Ukraine. You just don’t allow something like that to go to hostile powers so that can sit on your doorstep buck shee…..as I said, it’s a force multiplier and those other states are not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,526 Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 (edited) 3 hours ago, Goly said: Bollocks, if they were being persecuted like the Russian propaganda said so, they could have very easily moved to the Motherland, I'm sure Putin would have arranged this if that was his main concern, his people. Lol What a foolish thing to say……like every Catholic & Republican can move from Northern Ireland to the republic and of course they can…..but ask them if they want to and tell them why they should ! Edited February 20 by WILF 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goly 1,823 Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 1 minute ago, WILF said: What a foolish thing to say……like every Catholic & Republican can move from Northern Ireland to the republican and of course they can…..but ask them if they want to and tell them why they should ! Are you seriously trying to suggest that this is the reason for invading Ukraine? Where is your evidence that Russians in Ukraine have been persecuted? Putin needs to make his mind up, is it NATO expansion or the persecution of his people? Or perhaps he's just a lying tyrant? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,526 Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 6 minutes ago, Goly said: Are you seriously trying to suggest that this is the reason for invading Ukraine? Where is your evidence that Russians in Ukraine have been persecuted? Putin needs to make his mind up, is it NATO expansion or the persecution of his people? Or perhaps he's just a lying tyrant? No, what a stupid question…… Not everyone views the world in the childlike, 2 dimensional frame that you seem to. These things are never about just one thing, they are always a culmination of various factors. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogmandont 10,059 Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 52 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: how’s that then mate ? It's just how they behave, no manners. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 9,048 Posted February 20 Author Report Share Posted February 20 Provocative NATO expansion is given as the reason as Putin invaded Ukraine. Trump now appears to back Vlad. But the supreme allied commander of NATO is always an American. So isn't Trump criticising his own country's past actions? It's best not to take Trump's statements too seriously. He's thrown a firwork into the situation to confuse and keep everybody guessing. But there will be hundreds of serious minded officials brokering a deal behind the scenes. Nothing to get excited about imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goly 1,823 Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 (edited) 8 minutes ago, WILF said: No, what a stupid question…… Not everyone views the world in the childlike, 2 dimensional frame that you seem to. These things are never about just one thing, they are always a culmination of various factors. You see it in one dimension, I mean you are seriously trying to justify Russia invading another sovereign nation. They are the aggressors, not Ukraine, how dare Ukraine try and defend their country. Edited February 20 by Goly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,526 Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 1 hour ago, Lenmcharristar said: Ok, theyre hared by the irish, the scots, the argies, the pakistanis, the indians, the auzzies, the french, the spaniards, the russians, etc, I was at that WW1 museum near Bangor many years ago, as the bloke took the group round we came to a room with a massive wall size photo of British troops all parading. There was a group of like 2000 all marching in one direction and then a single bloke marching in the opposite direction. The bloke turns to me, obviously having noticed by my Noel Coward-esque accent that I was English, and says “Spot the Englishman in that photo” So I say him, pointing at the single bloke and he says how can you tell. So I say, I don’t know ? And your man says “He is the only one going in the right direction” lol Thats how people see us and they are right, we are a bunch of snobs and we have no idea that we are. Im cool with it, I like the fact you can make a mass generalisation about various peoples…..it’s funny and we were all brought up on it……I embrace my snobbish English label. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,526 Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 5 minutes ago, Goly said: You see it in one dimension, I mean you are seriously trying to justify Russia invading another sovereign nation. They are the aggressors, not Ukraine, how dare Ukraine try and defend their country. My brother Stiff has done you a massive favour by giving credence to your childlike ramblings and demented attempts to provoke reactions…..he has bestowed upon you a legitimacy that is frankly not warranted because he is smart and you’re a total f***ing idiot ! lol 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotty12 3,046 Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 Ukraine did start the war with thousands of Minsk ceasefire violations during the 9 days preceding the 2022 invasion. Amassed 150k troops to invade Donbass. Began bombing civilians in 2014. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goly 1,823 Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 Just now, WILF said: My brother Stiff has done you a massive favour by giving credence to your childlike ramblings and demented attempts to provoke reactions…..he has bestowed upon you a legitimacy that is frankly not warranted because he is smart and you’re a total f***ing idiot ! lol And like a good brother, he stands by his mongo of a sibling! Lol Another victory to me, yet again! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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