Starmer Ukraine

[WILF 47,634]

1 minute ago, Goly said:

You can invade a country for no reason if you want, but that doesn't mean it's right, and that doesn't mean you can escape reprisals. Ethnically identical? Russia is about as homogeneous as a bag of Celebrations! Lol

It’s not for no reason though is it, it’s always to protect your own people.

If there was an enclave of Americans who identified as Americans living in any country in the world and they were then persecuted with laws banning them from using their language or identifying as Americans then the Unites States would roll in all guns blazing and not think twice about it…….same as Britains did in the Falklands 

[bob.243 9,084]

[Goly 1,427]

Just now, WILF said:

It’s not for no reason though is it, it’s always to protect your own people.

If there was an enclave of Americans who identified as Americans living in any country in the world and they were then persecuted with laws banning them from using their language or identifying as Americans then the Unites States would roll in all guns blazing and not think twice about it…….same as Britains did in the Falklands 

Bollocks, if they were being persecuted like the Russian propaganda said so, they could have very easily moved to the Motherland, I'm sure Putin would have arranged this if that was his main concern, his people. Lol

[mC HULL 13,575]

3 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

You can’t belittle me 

As I’ve said before , my views , yours and @scotty12 aren’t a million miles away. 

I just see things differently to you two, not opposite. 

I find myself more and more in tune with @Goly as it’s likely we have a similar knowledge / skills / experience of the topics discussed here . 

i wouldn’t want to or try to to be honest stiff 

we all had the same view the  site would be boring 

 

[Goly 1,427]

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[Bangersanmash 3,368]

UP THE IRA . Just been reading all the comments. A don't understand us west. We always getting involved in other people's shite. But can't protect our own f***ing borders from boats crossing . You couldn't make it up. Our defence and military are at rock bottom , parts of Europe's too.

But we're sending military equipment to Ukraine ffs. Putins on phone to china & north Korea , iran. " Saying let them keep the hot water tap on dripping away they'll soon run the gas bill up. 

Meaning all the f***ing equipment were giving to f***ing Ukraine. Then told China an north Korea will come into play. Specially China. There not f****n stupid giving there equipment away. Trumps not f***ing stupid either. Draining his own supplies 

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Just now, Bangersanmash said:

UP THE IRA . Just been reading all the comments. A don't understand us west. We all was getting involved in other people's shite. But can't protect our own f***ing borders from boats crossing . You couldn't make it up. Our defence and military are at rock bottom , parts of Europe's too.

But we're sending military equipment to Ukraine ffs. Putins on phone to china & north Korea , iran. " Saying let them keep the hot water tap on dripping away they'll soon run the gas bill up. 

Meaning all the f***ing equipment were giving to f***ing Ukraine. Then told China a north Korea will come into play. Specially China. There not f****n stupid giving there equipment away. Trumps not f***ing stupid either. Draining his own supplies 

letting this country rot inside out while they fill there pockets in ukraine and ruin another country we have form or the c**ts in charge of us do 

[THE STIFFMEISTER 16,193]

12 minutes ago, Goly said:

Basically experts in every field of discussion. Lol

That's why he's scared to go out for a walk with me and Bangers, he's always right with his merry men!

Out of likes  

[chartpolski 24,598]

6 minutes ago, WILF said:

It’s not for no reason though is it, it’s always to protect your own people.

If there was an enclave of Americans who identified as Americans living in any country in the world and they were then persecuted with laws banning them from using their language or identifying as Americans then the Unites States would roll in all guns blazing and not think twice about it…….same as Britains did in the Falklands 

But we didn’t invade the Falklands ; the Argentines invaded sovereign british territory. We ejected the illegal foreign invaders.

It was no different to if a foreign power invaded the Isle of Wight or Anglesey, we have every right to protect the sovereignty of our land.

Whatever the reason for Putin invading the Ukraine, Russia were the foreigner invading a sovereign country.

He may or may not have had good reasons but the anology between the Falklands and the Ukraine doesn’t stand up.

Cheers.

[Welsh_red 4,747]

4 hours ago, WataWalloper said:

My spidey senses are tingling here, this could be a good one haha 

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Goly said:

Basically experts in every field of discussion. Lol

That's why he's scared to go out for a walk with me and Bangers, he's always right with his merry men!

i’ll walk out with anyone at 12 hour notice lol 

but they need to turn up with a dog lol 

you and stiff been wrong on every subject for the  last 3 year ffs lol 

[scotty12 2,524]

30 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

Get back ! 

Shadrack 

[dogmandont 9,933]

The Ukraine war is about nothing more than their resources, that's it in a nutshell. 

The west will buy and bribe their way in and Russia will bomb their way in and  they'll both get their cut, has fcuk all to do with the Ukrainian or Russian people. 

[scotty12 2,524]

It simple terms a deep state money laundering operation 

[waltjnr 7,020]

47 minutes ago, WILF said:

Having actually stood and looked over a field into Russia with the very real task of preparing men for real conflict I’d say Stiff was better positioned to give an opinion than most, Goly talks absolute nonsense but Stiff never does…..he can formulate and give an intelligent opinion.

We don’t have to agree with it but you can’t belittle it because it comes from a place of knowledge and not nonsense. 

Doesn't he drive a digger ? Thought he just made roads ,wearing a helmet instead of a hardhat ?