Do not burn the holy book.

[Goly 1,773]

Just now, chartpolski said:

When the left wing apologists say “ but.. but.. but.. what about the local guy who murdered someone ? “ I say , “ exactly ! We have more than enough home grown nut cases without importing more !”.

Cheers.

It's not a game of trumps is it, atrocities like that need calling out no matter the perpetrator, and so does the hypocrisy. Why did the Swedish topic fall at the first hurdle after people assumed of the killer and his motives? Do people actually care about what really matters, the poor victims?

You can't prevent shit like this from happening, remove all the migrants, you'll still get individuals like the Swedish killer, like the monster of Dunblane.

[Borr 6,535]

3 minutes ago, Goly said:

It's not a game of trumps is it, atrocities like that need calling out no matter the perpetrator, and so does the hypocrisy. Why did the Swedish topic fall at the first hurdle after people assumed of the killer and his motives? Do people actually care about what really matters, the poor victims?

You can't prevent shit like this from happening, remove all the migrants, you'll still get individuals like the Swedish killer, like the monster of Dunblane.

Would you get the Swedish killer if we weren't swamped with Muslim migrants

[chartpolski 24,821]

Just now, Goly said:

It's not a game of trumps is it, atrocities like that need calling out no matter the perpetrator, and so does the hypocrisy. Why did the Swedish topic fall at the first hurdle after people assumed of the killer and his motives? Do people actually care about what really matters, the poor victims?

You can't prevent shit like this from happening, remove all the migrants, you'll still get individuals like the Swedish killer, like the monster of Dunblane.

We will, sadly , always have home grown wrong ‘uns, but my personal opinion is that I would rather deport every asylum seeker than see one more child stabbed, blown up or run over by someone who shouldn’t be here.

Just the opinion  of someone who has lost not one, but two children.

Cheers.

[Goly 1,773]

5 minutes ago, Borr said:

Would you get the Swedish killer if we weren't swamped with Muslim migrants

No idea, I have the opinion that mad men are mad men, they will carry out atrocious acts regardless. It wasn't Muslims that caused a cowardly b*****d to walk in to a school to blow its pupils to bits.

[Borr 6,535]

Many of the UK mass murderers such as hungerford and dunblane from what I know were due to police failings on checks, wasn't the dunblane guy a convicted peado , I maybe wrong. As said we'll have plenty of home grown lunatics with islamic extremists to boot, and what is blatantly obvious is if you allow unchecked illegal migration then you are deliberately causing this harm and should be held accountable 

[Goly 1,773]

2 minutes ago, Borr said:

Many of the UK mass murderers such as hungerford and dunblane from what I know were due to police failings on checks, wasn't the dunblane guy a convicted peado , I maybe wrong. As said we'll have plenty of home grown lunatics with islamic extremists to boot, and what is blatantly obvious is if you allow unchecked illegal migration then you are deliberately causing this harm and should be held accountable 

Many of the atrocities commited by immigrants are due to failings of the police and social services. How many of these vermin were known to the authorities and were not detained or deported? As for unvetted immigrants/asylum seekers, if they don't have previous, how can you possibly vet for that? The only possible solution is to reject all asylum seekers, which I'm not sure any party would do, not even Reform.

Edited February 15 by Goly

[Borr 6,535]

1 minute ago, Goly said:

No idea, I have the opinion that mad men are mad men, they will carry out atrocious acts regardless. It wasn't Muslims that caused a cowardly b*****d to walk in to a school to blow its pupils to bits.

No but it may have been Muslim/immigrant gangs rapists or mass immigration causing his extremist views , I obviously don't condone his atrocity but generally they don't come out of nowhere, I suppose you could say that the fact most UK terrorists are probably second generation immigrants that don't feel they belong etc. But the simple version is the government and establishment have chosen this path for us and more likely our children.

[Goly 1,773]

7 minutes ago, Borr said:

No but it may have been Muslim/immigrant gangs rapists or mass immigration causing his extremist views , I obviously don't condone his atrocity but generally they don't come out of nowhere, I suppose you could say that the fact most UK terrorists are probably second generation immigrants that don't feel they belong etc. But the simple version is the government and establishment have chosen this path for us and more likely our children.

So far they haven't revealed a motive so it's all conjecture. And yes, the government have brought this on us, quite clearly. But it does appear all we are really interested in is the narrative, the fact that that particular thread went dead in the water said it all.

Edited February 15 by Goly

[WILF 47,967]

Some folks either have short memory’s or they just wasn’t born in a time when this just wasn’t a conversation !……and now they are trying to tell blokes who do remember a time before that it’s just part and parcel of life in general !

For the record, I remember Dunblane and that was a one-off off shocking event, and almost unbelievable, unthinkable event…..now it’s almost a weekly f***ing occurrence ! 
 

And for those of us old enough to know, it’s an occurrence we have seen grow in conjunction with the mass influx of aliens and the rise and promotion of foreign cultures and religions.

And I lived through the troubles and the bombing campaign of the IRA in London as did many blokes here, my wife actually grew up in Northern Ireland in the 70s and 80s……never like this with Europe wide atrocities happening so often that it’s almost just “oh, right, another one” like its nothing !  
And your talk about domestic terrorists, Anders Breavig (spel?) never does what he does without feeling tortured and threatened by the political elites inflicting this crime on there indigenous peoples…..and there ain’t an Anders Braevig happening weekly is there ? 
 

You ain’t getting random Christian’s walking out of mass and going bat shit in the local paki newsagent are you ? 
 

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck…..it’s a f***ing duck ! 
 

Totally agree with Charts, deport the lot and you’d slash the murder rate overnight !

[WILF 47,967]

17 hours ago, Borr said:

It would be a better situation if someone who burned a Koran was viewed as a nutter and ignored , but in this climate it's viewed as a demonstration of a lack of free speech at best and possibly the undercurrent of a swelling opinion that islam doesn't fit well within our culture as we knew it. 

Forgive me if you are not old enough mate, but how many people do you remember burning Korans on the streets of Britain in 1985 ? 
 

I’ll tell and you probably know the answer, it’s none !…….it wasn’t a thing because random people didn’t feel that it needed to be a thing.

Edited February 16 by WILF

[Goly 1,773]

7 minutes ago, WILF said:

Some folks either have short memory’s or they just wasn’t born in a time when this just wasn’t a conversation !……and now they are trying to tell blokes who do remember a time before that it’s just part and parcel of life in general !

For the record, I remember Dunblane and that was a one-off off shocking event, and almost unbelievable, unthinkable event…..now it’s almost a weekly f***ing occurrence ! 
 

And for those of us old enough to know, it’s an occurrence we have seen grow in conjunction with the mass influx of aliens and the rise and promotion of foreign cultures and religions.

And I lived through the troubles and the bombing campaign of the IRA in London as did many blokes here, my wife actually grew up in Northern Ireland in the 70s and 80s……never like this with Europe wide atrocities happening so often that it’s almost just “oh, right, another one” like its nothing !  
And your talk about domestic terrorists, Anders Breavig (spel?) never does what he does without feeling tortured and threatened by the political elites inflicting this crime on there indigenous peoples…..and there ain’t an Anders Braevig happening weekly is there ? 
 

You ain’t getting random Christian’s walking out of mass and going bat shit in the local paki newsagent are you ? 
 

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck…..it’s a f***ing duck ! 
 

Totally agree with Charts, deport the lot and you’d slash the murder rate overnight !

Because it is part and parcel of life! For someone who has a good memory on things, examples like Glasgow must have slipped your mind. Wasn't it once labeled the murder capital of Europe, it wasn't down to immigration so what was it down to?

I think we all agree that allowing in peoples from the poorest and most poverty striken regions of the world has had a negative impact on the UK but let's not pretend it was some crime free and peaceful utopia beforehand.

[WILF 47,967]

1 minute ago, Goly said:

Because it is part and parcel of life! For someone who has a good memory on things, examples like Glasgow must have slipped your mind. Wasn't it once labeled the murder capital of Europe, it wasn't down to immigration so what was it down to?

I think we all agree that allowing in peoples from the poorest and most poverty striken regions of the world has had a negative impact on the UK but let's not pretend it was some crime free and peaceful utopia beforehand.

Yeah, it basically was a crime free and peaceful nation of Christian moral values…..with some crime.

So don’t talk out of your arse like the influx of aliens and this rise of degenerate 3rd world acts isn’t all related. 

On laundry day, I suppose you walk down the whole street and collect all their dirty laundry as well and just tell yourself “well, I was doing the laundry anyway” !

Ludicrous! 

[Goly 1,773]

3 minutes ago, WILF said:

Yeah, it basically was a crime free and peaceful nation of Christian moral values…..with some crime.

So don’t talk out of your arse like the influx of aliens and this rise of degenerate 3rd world acts isn’t all related. 

On laundry day, I suppose you walk down the whole street and collect all their dirty laundry as well and just tell yourself “well, I was doing the laundry anyway” !

Ludicrous! 

No, Glasgow was labeled the murder capital of Europe!! No, it just wasn't a place with a few loveable rogues!

You are talking out of your arse, the reality is most of the immigrants aren't criminals, they are a minority, if not, we'd have millions of Muslims bombing the gaff!

Yes, you could prevent all crimes in the name of Islam by deporting each and everyone, but less of THL speak, that isn't going to ever happen and we both know it.

[WILF 47,967]

9 minutes ago, Goly said:

No, Glasgow was labeled the murder capital of Europe!! No, it just wasn't a place with a few loveable rogues!

You are talking out of your arse, the reality is most of the immigrants aren't criminals, they are a minority, if not, we'd have millions of Muslims bombing the gaff!

Yes, you could prevent all crimes in the name of Islam by deporting each and everyone, but less of THL speak, that isn't going to ever happen and we both know it.

You better hurry, all that laundry, so little time. 

[Goly 1,773]

2 minutes ago, WILF said:

You better hurry, all that laundry, so little time. 

No answer or explanation then, just as I thought.