WILF 48,368 Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 1 hour ago, mackem said: Wilf said we are the most developed,I said Having gadgets wasn’t really what I was getting at……we invented most of the technology that gave them all those gadgets anyway if we are really picking the bones out of it. But that wasn’t really my point, we have been at the forefront of developing civilised social practices for century’s……I don’t think we have eaten dogs for a long time ! So I’ll say it again, we are the most developed people on the planet and we have the technical and financial and moral capabilities to do something about people having to use foodbanks ! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 6,891 Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 China are masters of reproduction, they have spent decades installed throughout the world and big businesses and politicians have run towards them to give away out manufacturing and technology for cheap manufacturing costs etc . Even as we speak one of you is ordering fishing tackle garbage off temu lol. I work harder than I care to in order to try and buy British where I can , not always but British meat , British products, British owned pubs and restaurants, British tool supplies. It's not easy ... Log into Facebook (!64.56:886 Log into Facebook to start sharing and connecting with your... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,368 Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 20 minutes ago, downsouth said: I subscribe to his channel so I don't miss any.Whole communities wiped out by that shit.3generations of the same family turned into smackheads by pharmaceutical companies It’s a great Chanel to be fair, very eye opening mate. It’s almost unfathomable how something like that can happen in an advanced nation like America…..I’m a fairly libertarian type person but that just takes free market economics into the world of downright criminality. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 28,600 Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 8 minutes ago, WILF said: So I’ll say it again, we are the most developed people on the planet In what way Wilf?When you say we you mean British?Narrow it down a little Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,368 Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 (edited) 18 minutes ago, mackem said: In what way Wilf?When you say we you mean British?Narrow it down a little Where do I start for Europeans ?……. We invented and championed: The nation state with universal rule of law Medicine for all, vaccinations Drinking water infrastructure Sewage disposal social reforms to help the poor and needy Abolished slavery Property rights Social housing I could go on and on and on if I could be arsed to research….. Although some were not perfect in their early incarnations (like the workhouse) the idea behind them was a noble one albeit harsher than we would entertain today (more progress there see ) But we put all these systems in place, have developed them and exported them to the world….. All across continental Europe the things that have made our world were shaped for the last few thousand years…… Since the Greeks and the romans we have been advancing everyone we come into contact with and we have been in contact with a lot because of our spirit of innovation and adventure that led us to all corners of the globe. Now, as has been the trend we can all talk about the downsides to all of that…..but overall we have been a force for good in a way nobody else has on such a scale. Edited February 15 by WILF 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 28,600 Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 2 minutes ago, WILF said: Where do I start for Europeans ?……. We invented and championed: The nation state with universal rule of law Medicine for all, vaccinations Drinking water infrastructure Sewage disposal social reforms to help the poor and needy Abolished slavery Property rights Social housing I could go on and on and on if I could be arsed to research….. Although some were not perfect in their early incarnations (like the workhouse) the idea behind them was a noble one albeit harsher than we would entertain today (more progress there see ) But we put all these systems in place, have developed them and exported them to the world….. All across continental Europe the things that have made our world were shaped for the last few thousand years…… Since the Greeks and the romans we have been advancing everyone we come into contact with and we have we have been in contact with a lot because of our spirit of innovation and adventure that led us to all corners of the globe. Now, as has been the trend we can all talk about the downsides to all of that…..but overall we have been a force for good in a way nobody else has on such a scale. Europe is a broad net to cast,glad it wasn't just us brits,I was thinking more like single countries,social structure I can think of at least one with no beggars in the capital city (apart from migrants who come at certain times of the year)no homelessness,if you lived on the street the king will give you land or society will take you in,no rubbish on the streets,and over 3/4 describe themselves as content/happy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 14,290 Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 2 hours ago, Borr said: China is a communist dictatorship, a country that starved 50/60 million of its own people and would do it again in a heart beat for the good of the party, no freedom of speech, execution buses, facial recognition everywhere, points for following the rules . I can't think of a worse existence outside of war.... it’s coming here lol what you on about mate next ten year were at were china is now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 6,891 Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 14 minutes ago, mC HULL said: it’s coming here lol what you on about mate next ten year were at were china is now No I don't think we're anything like china tbh lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 28,600 Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 12 minutes ago, Borr said: No I don't think we're anything like china tbh lol We aren't,they are ahead in technology,but per head UK has more CCTV per person.China covers 5 time zones,the UK fits into it 40? times? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,368 Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 16 minutes ago, mackem said: We aren't,they are ahead in technology,but per head UK has more CCTV per person.China covers 5 time zones,the UK fits into it 40? times? Also a point of national shame….. Luckily some of that got addressed by JD Vance yesterday……something else that won’t be happening in China. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waltjnr 7,404 Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 3 hours ago, mackem said: We aren't,china is leaps and bounds ahead of the UK,that's the truth of the matter,space age in comparison technologically. I guarantee in our lifetimes the problem won't be redressed,it gets worse year on year,it's every man for himself on the streets of London,I see evidence on a daily basis. China with gulag type accommodation for people that the powers that be disagree with, executing people left right and centre ,what does more advanced, superior, actually mean ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 28,600 Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 1 minute ago, WILF said: Also a point of national shame….. Luckily some of that got addressed by JD Vance yesterday……something else that won’t be happening in China. The average brit 70 times a day on cctv.Second most heavily surveilled citizens in the world after the states I think? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,368 Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 Just now, mackem said: The average brit 70 times a day on cctv.Second most heavily surveilled citizens in the world after the states I think? I think it was 400 times a day the average person has their picture taken walking around London ? That’s sinister as f**k in my opinion 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 28,600 Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 Just now, waltjnr said: China with gulag type accommodation for people that the powers that be disagree with, executing people left right and centre ,what does more advanced, superior, actually mean ? Advanced in Tech walt,those re-education camps on TV are for Muslims mainly,and I have seen loads on this very site advocating executions for criminals. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saluki bouy 775 Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 1 minute ago, mackem said: The average brit 70 times a day on cctv.Second most heavily surveilled citizens in the world after the states I think? Hundred percent estate that I live on one access road I’m not even half way in and I’ll get caught driving past 35 ring door bells alone never mind shop cctv and gol that have cctv outside there homes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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