WILF 47,521 Posted Thursday at 09:37 Report Share Posted Thursday at 09:37 On 11/02/2025 at 20:14, dai dogs said: The kids father killed the guy who give him a slap he done seven years jail out in 4 Maybe I have read this wrong, but are you saying (and I don’t doubt you) that a bloke got 7 and did 4 for something that’s a recommendation of 30 almost anywhere else in the land ? The shot through the front door is possibly a manslaughter, pushing the door open and giving the geezer the coup de gras is a 30 every day of the week ? As I say, I may have read it wrong and be confused so if I am I apologise. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,573 Posted Thursday at 09:50 Report Share Posted Thursday at 09:50 11 minutes ago, WILF said: Maybe I have read this wrong, but are you saying (and I don’t doubt you) that a bloke got 7 and did 4 for something that’s a recommendation of 30 almost anywhere else in the land ? The shot through the front door is possibly a manslaughter, pushing the door open and giving the geezer the coup de gras is a 30 every day of the week ? As I say, I may have read it wrong and be confused so if I am I apologise. People in Wales are slowly climbing the evolutionary scale and are just a little in front of sheep at the moment. They are known to interbreed with sheep. Therefore enlightened judges treat them more leniently than you and me 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dai dogs 1,603 Posted Thursday at 09:53 Author Report Share Posted Thursday at 09:53 13 minutes ago, WILF said: Maybe I have read this wrong, but are you saying (and I don’t doubt you) that a bloke got 7 and did 4 for something that’s a recommendation of 30 almost anywhere else in the land ? The shot through the front door is possibly a manslaughter, pushing the door open and giving the geezer the coup de gras is a 30 every day of the week ? As I say, I may have read it wrong and be confused so if I am I apologise. You read it correctly this happened about 30 odd years ago Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 4,720 Posted Thursday at 09:57 Report Share Posted Thursday at 09:57 21 minutes ago, downsouth said: If someone going around constantly bullying/belittling somebody else because they have a physical advantage over them and then get filled in then F**k em I say.Lets face it pricks that go around bullying people very rarely do you see scrapping with other tough fellas who might give them a run for their money.They pick out easy targets and make their life a misery.What sort of low life c**t purposely sets out to belittle another bloke in front of his missus.Same sort of bloke who more than likely goes home and gives his old woman a right hander at the end of the night.I always find it amusing how many of these ex so called hard men end up lonely old pissheads in later years as once their ability to bully someone leaves them nobody feels the need to have to even speak to them anymore. The toughest guy around this town is one of the nicest people you could meet . Ex military guy now doing forestry. Couldn't meet a nicer bloke . When my Mrs worked in the local pub he'd sit at one end of the bar and just chat about anything and everything and was a complete gent . I seen him lose it once when I was late teens in a pub and it was over someone slapping the back of his head while walking past him in a pub . It was like someone had just flipped a switch and he went from laughy joking to slinging this big bloke around the place and leathering him . Contrast that to the local bully types who would buy a drink at the other end of the bar and say nothing to my Mrs and just generally stare around the place I always felt a bit sorry for those types, that's no sort of life always worried about image and always trying to be a tough guy while knowing full well theirs not much behind their image Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dai dogs 1,603 Posted Thursday at 10:03 Author Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:03 There was another murder not far from where I used to live 2 gays one was much older than the other the older one got home from the pub one night they had a lover’s tiff the younger one caved the older ones chest in by jumping and stamping on him Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,437 Posted Thursday at 10:20 Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:20 44 minutes ago, downsouth said: If someone going around constantly bullying/belittling somebody else because they have a physical advantage over them and then get filled in then F**k em I say.Lets face it pricks that go around bullying people very rarely do you see scrapping with other tough fellas who might give them a run for their money.They pick out easy targets and make their life a misery.What sort of low life c**t purposely sets out to belittle another bloke in front of his missus.Same sort of bloke who more than likely goes home and gives his old woman a right hander at the end of the night.I always find it amusing how many of these ex so called hard men end up lonely old pissheads in later years as once their ability to bully someone leaves them nobody feels the need to have to even speak to them anymore. Its like anything else the proof is in the pudding......bullies dont last long........old ex " hard men " as you call them,who operated at the highest echelons of crime and made their money work for them,enriching the lives of people they've been around forever with more money than they could ever spend maintaining close friendships built on loyalty and trust,well good luck to them i say........but bullies no, bullies tend not to make old bones as theres usually little stragglers who have never had anything going on in life ready watching and targeting them....jealousy is an evil trait and bullies are simple to deal with, hence they dont last very long. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,437 Posted Thursday at 10:22 Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:22 16 minutes ago, dai dogs said: There was another murder not far from where I used to live 2 gays one was much older than the other the older one got home from the pub one night they had a lover’s tiff the younger one caved the older ones chest in by jumping and stamping on him Is there anybody still alive where you used to live mate ? 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 46,106 Posted Thursday at 10:29 Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:29 48 minutes ago, WILF said: Maybe I have read this wrong, but are you saying (and I don’t doubt you) that a bloke got 7 and did 4 for something that’s a recommendation of 30 almost anywhere else in the land ? The shot through the front door is possibly a manslaughter, pushing the door open and giving the geezer the coup de gras is a 30 every day of the week ? As I say, I may have read it wrong and be confused so if I am I apologise. My cousin punched a fella in a street fight 2003,he was dead before he hit the ground...was out in 2 1/2 yrs...my middle brother knocked a fully grown man out,ended up in a wheelchair ,full-time carer etc..when he was 17,ended up doing 8 1/2 yrs... justice system in this country is f****d Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,437 Posted Thursday at 10:44 Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:44 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Daniel cain said: My cousin punched a fella in a street fight 2003,he was dead before he hit the ground...was out in 2 1/2 yrs...my middle brother knocked a fully grown man out,ended up in a wheelchair ,full-time carer etc..when he was 17,ended up doing 8 1/2 yrs... justice system in this country is f****d Manslaughter can be a really tricky case to prove or disprove, a pal of mine who fought for a British Title killed a man working on a door years ago.....the other bloke started on him but because he ended up walking away and my pal took a few steps towards him he was seen as the aggressor,he was hit once and fell hitting his head on a concrete step.....copped a full blown murder charge and served 11 years because he was an ex fighter. Edited Thursday at 10:51 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dai dogs 1,603 Posted Thursday at 10:59 Author Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:59 1 hour ago, jukel123 said: People in Wales are slowly climbing the evolutionary scale and are just a little in front of sheep at the moment. They are known to interbreed with sheep. Therefore enlightened judges treat them more leniently than you and me English judges giving Pedophiles community orders comes to mind but that’s another story Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,521 Posted Thursday at 11:10 Report Share Posted Thursday at 11:10 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Daniel cain said: My cousin punched a fella in a street fight 2003,he was dead before he hit the ground...was out in 2 1/2 yrs...my middle brother knocked a fully grown man out,ended up in a wheelchair ,full-time carer etc..when he was 17,ended up doing 8 1/2 yrs... justice system in this country is f****d Don’t doubt it mate, but what Dai describes is a 30, no ifs, no buts, it’s 30 and it was a 30 forty years ago too. Be interesting, if someone had an interest in such things, to read the details and how they came up with 7 Edited to add: Sounds like I’m calling Dai a bulshitter and I’m not, I don’t know because I don’t know, it’s just a strange one and Dai probably thinks the same. Edited Thursday at 11:19 by WILF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leegreen 2,197 Posted Thursday at 12:47 Report Share Posted Thursday at 12:47 2 hours ago, gnasher16 said: Is there anybody still alive where you used to live mate ? Yeah, the only gay in the village. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dai dogs 1,603 Posted Thursday at 13:00 Author Report Share Posted Thursday at 13:00 1980 a young 18 year old Dai Walks past the local shop and hears some shouting in the distance there’s 2 old fella’s getting hammered by this young lad same age as me I run across gives him the bad news and helps the old guys up off the floor 10 years or so later in one of the roughest pubs on the estate this lad starts his nonsense so I tell him to get f****d and off he f****d He only went to his mother in laws raped and killed her and set fire to the house I regret not putting that c**t in hospital that night Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,573 Posted Thursday at 16:52 Report Share Posted Thursday at 16:52 (edited) 3 hours ago, dai dogs said: 1980 a young 18 year old Dai Walks past the local shop and hears some shouting in the distance there’s 2 old fella’s getting hammered by this young lad same age as me I run across gives him the bad news and helps the old guys up off the floor 10 years or so later in one of the roughest pubs on the estate this lad starts his nonsense so I tell him to get f****d and off he f****d He only went to his mother in laws raped and killed her and set fire to the house I regret not putting that c**t in hospital that night I need hard-core xxx counselling after reading your posts.lol Back in the black and white days council estates were self governing places where everybody looked after each other. People were in and out of each others houses, borrowing essentials or just gossiping. Mothers talked about childhood diseases. The background noise when I was a kid was impetigo, mumps, measles, chicken pox, rickets and ringworm. When the NHS kicked in mothers thought it was like winning the lottery. There was violence and prostitution outside. It was a dock area, but family women and kids were given a free pass, so I never felt afraid. It was actually a very pleasant and peaceful existence. Moving to Rochdale flats as a teenager was something else. A nightmare of drug dealers, petty muggers and poverty. Putting people in battery cages causes their behaviour to hit rock bottom. But I guess there are other reasons too as to why human behaviour just plummets to worse than animals. Edited Thursday at 16:54 by jukel123 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goly 1,204 Posted Thursday at 17:03 Report Share Posted Thursday at 17:03 Dai and his mate are out shooting in the woods when his mate collapses. He's not breathing so rings 999. "My friend is dead, what should I do, hurry up, please come!" The operator replies, "Calm down Dai, first of all, make sure he's not breathing." There's a long silence, then a loud bang!! Dai answers the phone, "Ok, what now?" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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