Goly 1,450 Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 Forget Staffs Bangers, there's a nice couple of litters of what you're after, some lovely Beddy lurchers for sale. Quote Link to post
Aussie Whip 4,145 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 I still think English staffs are more stoic than pits, I remember my old staff bitch walking up to me to remove a ferret from her muzzle. no agro, just calm. Also saw an English staff almost kill a much bigger pit that went near the staff's human family. 1 Quote Link to post
Bangersanmash 3,377 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 29 minutes ago, Aussie Whip said: I still think English staffs are more stoic than pits, I remember my old staff bitch walking up to me to remove a ferret from her muzzle. no agro, just calm. Also saw an English staff almost kill a much bigger pit that went near the staff's human family. Don't get these going mate lol. Many haven't a clue never owned a proper stafford. Most of these street staffords that you see pottering around estates are more like Irish staffords / pits . Look like cross breeds. You put a pure beside one of these you can see the difference. What i call rubbing rags. 1 Quote Link to post
Daniel cain 46,227 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 I had a little black rough coated Patterdale dog..his party trick was running at then sliding under, clamping and hanging off the bollocks of the local dickheads staff/pitt X's lol....thing was mental,top holders in the ring piece and bottom in their balls while they in their owners arms screaming lol... grabbed a dog once,I had jump in a f***ing pond and drown the cnut until it let go Another time,he picked a fight with a massive bull mastiff/presa x...had my dogs head in it's mouth,shaking him like a rat,I thought,ok you've met your match...my dog proceeds to chew it's front wrist off could hear my dogs head popping,cnut still wouldn't let go...mastiff spat him out and couldn't get away fast enough ....if he had the size and weight of a bulldog...he would of killed most things...he would shit up off the floor,other dogs would physically shake when walking past him lol...the cnuts tail would be wagging...let me at em lol...first and last cnut I ever put up with,with it's manners..bred some good digging dogs from him,they was steady types,that wouldn't fight other dogs ,mad as it sounds 2 Quote Link to post
Goly 1,450 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Bangersanmash said: Don't get these going mate lol. Many haven't a clue never owned a proper stafford. Most of these street staffords that you see pottering around estates are more like Irish staffords / pits . Look like cross breeds. You put a pure beside one of these you can see the difference. What i call rubbing rags. Mate, there's a reason why the APBT took over the scene over here when they started importing dogs in the 80's, they were superior to our dogs. Quote Link to post
Aussie Whip 4,145 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 54 minutes ago, Goly said: Mate, there's a reason why the APBT took over the scene over here when they started importing dogs in the 80's, they were superior to our dogs. When they came to Oz the English bull, which was really popular almost vanished. I owned staffs and then pits for over 30 years and you can't really compare them but it's interesting that the English bull terrier has always been the preferred bull breed when crossed as hunting dogs over here. Apart from their original purpose and as family dogs I can't see the need for the APBT as an ingredient in any hunting dogs but a lot of people have these and love them so each to their own. Quote Link to post
mC HULL 13,613 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 12 hours ago, Bangersanmash said: He's from Birmingham Dean mate. Might be a different fella. one i’m thinking off used to run the lucky mouse stuff may be differnet man Quote Link to post
WataWalloper 953 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 1 minute ago, mC HULL said: one i’m thinking off used to run the lucky mouse stuff may be differnet man He used be on here I’m sure the lad your talking of 1 Quote Link to post
chartpolski 24,605 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 8 minutes ago, Aussie Whip said: When they came to Oz the English bull, which was really popular almost vanished. I owned staffs and then pits for over 30 years and you can't really compare them but it's interesting that the English bull terrier has always been the preferred bull breed when crossed as hunting dogs over here. Apart from their original purpose and as family dogs I can't see the need for the APBT as an ingredient in any hunting dogs but a lot of people have these and love them so each to their own. OOH ! You’ve done it now ! The bull x owners are nearly as breed blind as the coursing lot ! Prepare for incoming ! LOL ! Cheers. 3 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 13,613 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 13 hours ago, gnasher16 said: There was skullduggery and plain lies at every era of the breeds history start to finish....and im sure still is today..... bloodlines all threw up different traits and types which was always my argument for pure lines it took the lies and guesswork out.....i can look at a thousand Apbt's even today and pick out every single pure Mayfield dog for example.....at least with pure family dogs you can predict the outcomes to a degree and then you dont have these arguments i dont personally believe what Stratton is saying certainly regards Tudors old dogs going back to the Henry dogs from England.....but like i say im no historian of the breed. same family different lines but mayfield dogs will still throw pups that ain’t to type depending how heavily inbred they are my take on it any way mate Quote Link to post
mC HULL 13,613 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 13 hours ago, Bangersanmash said: Bring your dog down in summer for an hour or two onto training course. Al arrange it for you mate. just have a roll mate ffs lol they don’t kill each other that quick ya can’t stop it lol 1 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 13,613 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 well saying that them little bug eyed staffs soon be crunched up lol Quote Link to post
mC HULL 13,613 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 7 minutes ago, chartpolski said: OOH ! You’ve done it now ! The bull x owners are nearly as breed blind as the coursing lot ! Prepare for incoming ! LOL ! Cheers. you want to see breed blind mate get max with his 2 and will kick 4 up for them see what’s the fastest on land this time a year lol Quote Link to post
chartpolski 24,605 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 3 minutes ago, mC HULL said: you want to see breed blind mate get max with his 2 and will kick 4 up for them see what’s the fastest on land this time a year lol Never fails … PMSL ! Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post
WataWalloper 953 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 1 minute ago, chartpolski said: Never fails … PMSL ! Cheers. Your a bad man haha Quote Link to post
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