Staffy Pup Wanted

[Bangersanmash 3,205]

12 hours ago, Goly said:

Sounds a scary woman she does.  

She'd a made a show of your Akita. Next door neighbour had one. Him bouncing around like he was Billy big bollocks. Until he seen me down lane an red that was her name just mulled it. Every time on lead lunging for her. So a thought you know what your guna get put in your place. Chris the lad with the Akita terrified he was. . Its okay walking around like Billy big bollocks. Until you see a dog swinging off your dogs chin. Lol. Another lad wez with his pit bull that got taught some manners too. Ended up picking the c**t up on a car bonnet lol. But like a say moving house did something to that dog 100%. She wouldn't come out of her crate at one point door would be open an she didnt know where she was strange. Then that Akita next door sent her mental jumping up at back fence. Silly c**t walking around with it. Never stopped it jumping up. So had too sort the pecking order out haha. 

[Bangersanmash 3,205]

This is what they should be used for agility not in a show ring. Some shown some graft know a few lads with stafford blood in the dogs 

[Bangersanmash 3,205]

[gunter 256]

Have you had bulls before Eric 

[Goly 1,086]

2 hours ago, Bangersanmash said:

She'd a made a show of your Akita. Next door neighbour had one. Him bouncing around like he was Billy big bollocks. Until he seen me down lane an red that was her name just mulled it. Every time on lead lunging for her. So a thought you know what your guna get put in your place. Chris the lad with the Akita terrified he was. . Its okay walking around like Billy big bollocks. Until you see a dog swinging off your dogs chin. Lol. Another lad wez with his pit bull that got taught some manners too. Ended up picking the c**t up on a car bonnet lol. But like a say moving house did something to that dog 100%. She wouldn't come out of her crate at one point door would be open an she didnt know where she was strange. Then that Akita next door sent her mental jumping up at back fence. Silly c**t walking around with it. Never stopped it jumping up. So had too sort the pecking order out haha. 

My old man's Akita would have eaten her for breakfast, fat little Staff's make good eating! Lol

[WataWalloper 681]

Ffs it’s resorted to   ‘my dogs harder than your dog’  haha

 

 

bangers you really are the sausage in bangers an mash haha 

[Goly 1,086]

2 minutes ago, WataWalloper said:

Ffs it’s resorted to   ‘my dogs harder than your dog’  haha

 

 

bangers you really are the sausage in bangers an mash haha 

Next door neighbour to the left was an Akita, Pitbull to the right, Kangal next door but one, Dogo on the corner! Lol

Thing is, people get Staff's but they'd really like a APBT, but in truth don't want one because they are too much dog for their needs lol.

It's a nightmare having dog aggressive dogs, I don't give me dog the chance, he's on the lead whenever I'm near other dogs.

I like Staffs, but the vast majority now are as soft as a brush, great dogs for a family.

[bird 9,969]

20 hours ago, Goly said:

There's game and there's game mate. But think about it, they are one of the closest related breeds to the out and out out dogs so it's of no surprise that many were still game and could scrap. I've never bought the idea of the Staffordshire Bull Terrier being the oldest of the bull breeds, form always follows function, not the other way around. The APBT is the true representative of the Pit Dogs of the British Isles.

True, now as I've said on here few times, that we had old time staffs  in the 60s.ours were more like apbt of today, they go 14/ 19in 34- 54lb, so deff not like a kc Stafford.  But thinking about this with reading this post, yes there old line  Stafford  bull terrier bred in  black country w-ton, walsall,  staffs from these 2 places  were the more tall races strong types. And  thinking about it,  they must bred  the apbt in to the genes  at some stage  deff. For me being honest, if really wanted  a leggy,  strong agile type  bull terrier  today, as this bloke asking, I think get a nice well bred apbt bitch pup, that make  17in  45lb, be nice easy size  to  handle, just pick nice confident  bitch pup, from  well bred parents.

[Goly 1,086]

12 minutes ago, bird said:

True, now as I've said on here few times, that we had old time staffs  in the 60s.ours were more like apbt of today, they go 14/ 19in 34- 54lb, so deff not like a kc Stafford.  But thinking about this with reading this post, yes there old line  Stafford  bull terrier bred in  black country w-ton, walsall,  staffs from these 2 places  were the more tall races strong types. And  thinking about it,  they must bred  the apbt in to the genes  at some stage  deff. For me being honest, if really wanted  a leggy,  strong agile type  bull terrier  today, as this bloke asking, I think get a nice well bred apbt bitch pup, that make  17in  45lb, be nice easy size  to  handle, just pick nice confident  bitch pup, from  well bred parents.

I'm not sure about that mate, more likely some men kept more athletic and capable dogs that were closer representatives to the pit dogs of old. Let's not forget that even dogs down from KC dogs were still matched over here in Britain & Ireland. The KC Staff was officially recognised in the mid 30's I believe, the APBT didn't explode over here until the 80's.

Edited Friday at 14:00 by Goly

[bird 9,969]

2 minutes ago, Goly said:

I'm not sure about that mate, more likely some men kept more athletic and capable dogs that were closer representatives to the pit dogs of old. Let's not forget that even dogs down from KC dogs were still matched over here in Britain & Ireland. The KC Staff was officially recognised in the mid 30's I believe, the APBT didn't explode over here until the 80's.

OK, fair enough , wonder where the extra size came from  then?. They deff more taller, and bit heavier than your Average  kc Stafford  of to day.   But this was going  back  60-65.  I had a Reid bred bitch in late 80s-90s  dark brindle 19in 55lb,  OK temp with people, OK with dogs, but kept her on lead when outside my house, I just think that  nice bulldog apbt  bitch make good animal to keep, and that what I try to get ifvwanted  what  bull terrier type  animal. But my age, give me a daft lurcher anyway, to old now for head bangers  

[mr moocher 991]

I had staffs leggier type good dogs in their own right but no pitbull,ive had both bangers your show staff would get killed in the pit no. Ifs or buts mate

[Goly 1,086]

9 minutes ago, bird said:

OK, fair enough , wonder where the extra size came from  then?. They deff more taller, and bit heavier than your Average  kc Stafford  of to day.   But this was going  back  60-65.  I had a Reid bred bitch in late 80s-90s  dark brindle 19in 55lb,  OK temp with people, OK with dogs, but kept her on lead when outside my house, I just think that  nice bulldog apbt  bitch make good animal to keep, and that what I try to get ifvwanted  what  bull terrier type  animal. But my age, give me a daft lurcher anyway, to old now for head bangers  

At a guess I'd say some breeders preserved the older type which were leggier and bred for performance? 

[mr moocher 991]

4 minutes ago, Goly said:

At a guess I'd say some breeders preserved the older type which were leggier and bred for performance? 

mine were niineteen inches fifty five pound good badger dogs

[shaaark 10,906]

7 hours ago, Bangersanmash said:

Pantycelyn hagler, my old dog's grandsire.

My dog was red, with a black mask.

See if I can find some pics of him with my son, over the weekend, and put them up on here.

 

Edited Friday at 16:44 by shaaark

[Bangersanmash 3,205]

8 minutes ago, shaaark said:

Pantycelyn hagler, my old dog's grandsire.

 

Who's the breeder mate. All my dogs go back to dean cunds dog bold bull. Hes retired now but was one of the top judges in the country at the time. Plus his father had working staffords. 

Edited Friday at 16:42 by Bangersanmash